February 2023 - Test - lists.nanog.org

Caribnog email list
by David Bass 06 Feb '23

06 Feb '23

Anyone on here run it? The URL to sign up on the website doesn’t seem to work at the moment.

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recaptcha
by William Herrin 06 Feb '23

06 Feb '23

Has anybody else noticed that when Google Recaptcha falls over to presenting images, their data is of such poor quality that they've misclassified at least one image in upwards of half the presentations, rendering them unsolvable? If y'all aren't going to maintain the service to a production standard, you should retire it. Regards, Bill Herrin -- For hire. https://bill.herrin.us/resume/

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Widespread connectivity problems in the west, possibly Lumen
by Mel Beckman 06 Feb '23

06 Feb '23

We are getting reports of widespread connectivity problems: VPN failures, email delivery failures, RingCentral VoIP dropped calls, and the inability to reach O365. Affected users are as far East as Las Cruces, NM. All failing destinations are so far in California-based data centers. So far a common thread appears to be Lumen connectivity, although we can’t verify this is exclusive to Lumen transit. However, the reachability problems don’t seem to be getting resolved by BGP routing, so multi homed customers are still using lumen, even if lumen has no apparent reachability. -mel

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Can rr.ntt.net have a AAAA record please?
by Willy Manga 06 Feb '23

06 Feb '23

Hi, Dear admin of rr.ntt.net , I'm not one of your customers, but can you please enable IPv6 on your routing registry? I have to ask because (at least) those using tools like bgpq4 query by default your registry. And if you are using IPv6, your registry is only reachable if I enable a transition technique. Thank you in advance :) -- Willy Manga @ongolaboy https://ongola.blogspot.com/

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Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing
by Mike Hammett 06 Feb '23

06 Feb '23

I know that location matters, but I hope to be location agnostic. How have you seen empty conduits sold? Entire route only, or is a partial route okay? Twenty years only or less? Price compared to cost of construction? Ongoing maintenance costs? -----Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISP

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Spectrum (legacy TWC) Infrastructure - Contact Off List
by Gabriel Kuri 06 Feb '23

06 Feb '23

Could someone from Spectrum who deals with the HFC infrastructure in Southern California, specifically the legacy Time Warner Cable area, contact me off list ? Apparently the local infrastructure crew thinks it's OK to leave cable running between two cans in a residential neighborhood since at least July 2022. But it's OK, because they've cautioned them off with orange cones, right ? Multiple calls to regular customer service fall on deaf ears about a coax trunk cable run above ground on a street and sidewalk in the middle of a residential neighborhood. Customer service says, "We don't know what you're talking about, we don't have cables running on the street". Can't seem to get a hold of the right people to come out and get it buried and get rid of the eyesore and safety hazard ... [image: image1.jpg] [image: image2.jpg] Thanks, Gabe

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Re: Spectrum (legacy TWC) Infrastructure - Contact Off List
by Clayton Zekelman 06 Feb '23

06 Feb '23

The cost is not low. Trust me on that. I've been involved in a pretty massive suburban fibre deployment for the past decade... I expect we'll make money sometime in the 2030's... in time for me to retire. At 12:13 PM 02/02/2023, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: >The cost to build physical layer in much of the >suburban and somewhat rural US is low enough >anymore that lots of smaller, independent, ISPs >are overbuilding the incumbent with fiber and >taking a big chunk of their customer base >because they are local and care.Â And making money while doing it.Â > > -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409

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Re: Spectrum (legacy TWC) Infrastructure - Contact Off List (Patrick Garner)
by Patrick Garner 06 Feb '23

06 Feb '23

We have the same issue here in suburban Atlanta but with Comcast. The Comcast ped in my front yard has no cover... it's exposed to the elements. There's a bright orange cable running from there to my neighbor's house, it's been there for at least 3 years. At the least, it doesn't touch my property. There's other spots in my neighborhood where Comcast's bright orange coax just runs on the ground, along the road, in the gutter. Not saying AT&T is the greatest but at the very least their peds(they are so old they still say Bellsouth) have covers and they come within 3 days of install to bury DSL lines. I don't understand why Comcast has to choose the absolute ugliest bright orange cables to leave everywhere. If you're going to leave it, at least use a black cable. Yay duopoly! -- Patrick Garner Owner Cherokee Communications LLC 404-406-9864 patrick(a)cherokee.network

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Smaller than a /24 for BGP?
by Justin Wilson (Lists) 06 Feb '23

06 Feb '23

Have there been talks about the best practices to accept things smaller than a /24? I qm seeing more and more scenarios where folks need to participate in BGP but they do not need a full /24 of space. Seems wasteful. I know this would bloat the routing table immensely. I know of several folks who could split their /24 into /25s across a few regions and still have plenty of IP space. Justin Wilson j2sw(a)j2sw.com — https://blog.j2sw.com - Podcast and Blog https://www.fd-ix.com

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Increasing problems with geolocation/IPv4 access
by Jared Mauch 06 Feb '23

06 Feb '23

I’ve been seeing an increasing problem with IP space not having the ability to be used due to the behaviors of either geolocation or worse, people blocking IP space after it’s been in-use for a period of time. Before I go back to someone at ARIN and say “your shiny unused 4.10 IP space” is non-functional and am at a place where I need to start/restart/respawn the timer, I have a few questions for people: 1) Do you see 23.138.114.0/24 in any feeds from a security provider that say it can/should be blocked? If so, I’d love to hear from you to track this down. Over the new year we had some local schools start to block this IP space. 2) many companies have geolocation feeds and services that exist and pull in data. The reputable people are easy to find, there are those that are problematic from time-to-time (I had a few customers leave Sling due to the issues with that service). 3) Have you had similar issues? How are you chasing all the issues? We’ve seen things from everything works except uploading check images to banks, to other financial service companies block the space our customers are in. If we move them to another range this solves the problem. 4) We do IPv6, these places aren’t IPv6 modern at all, so that’s no help. 5) IRR+geofeed are published of course. I’m thinking that it might be worthwhile that IP space have published placeholders when it’s well understood, eg: ARIN 4.9 space, I can predict what our next allocation would be, it would be great to have it be pre-warmed. I’ve only seen a few complaints against all our IP space over time, so I don’t think there’s anything malicious coming from the IP space to justify it, but it’s also possible they didn’t make it through. If you’re with the FKA Savvis side, can you also ping me, I’d like to see if you can reach out to our most recent complaint source to see if we can find who is publishing this. Same if you’re with Merit or the Michigan Statewide Educational Network - your teachers stopped being able to post to powerschool for their students over the new year break. They’ve fed it up to their tech people towards the ISD. Details available off-list. Any insights are welcome, and as I said, I’d like to understand where the source list is as it starts out working then gradually breaks, so someone is publishing things and they are going out further. - Jared

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