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Re: NANOG NYC Event
by Fisher, Shawn 30 Jul '25

30 Jul '25

Personally I like dinosaur bbq, great malt beverages as well, and also blue smoke is great and if you like jazz, check out downstairs. -------------------------- Sent using BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: andrew young To: Scott Brim CC: nanog(a)nanog.org Sent: Sat May 31 18:28:57 2008 Subject: Re: NANOG NYC Event Speaking of food, ill be going to the Big Apple BBQ fest next weekend: http://bigapplebbq.org/2008/ If you love to eat BBQ, this is a big MUST to cap off your stay in NYC. if you do decided to go, be sure to get the Fastpass: http://www.bigapplebbq.org/2008/index.php?s=fastpass You dont want to wait 30 mins online for food. Don't forget a bib and leave your belt at home. :-) - ------------------------------------ Andrew Young Webair Internet Development, Inc Phone: 1 866 WEBAIR 1 FAX: 516.938.5100 http://www.webair.com andrewy(a)webair.com ------------------------------------- We are interested in any feedback you might have about the service you received. Please contact our technical support consumer care manager directly at 1.866.WEBAIR1 or e-mail customercare(a)webair.com ------------------------------------- On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 18:17 -0400, Scott Brim wrote: > On 5/31/08 12:36 PM, Rod Beck allegedly wrote: > > I strongly suggest that those heading to New York visit the great > > musems, architecture (Saint Patrick's Cathedral), and restaurants. > > You have the American Museum of Natural History, which includes an > > excellent Planetarium and just on the other side of Central Park, the > > Metropolitan Museum of Art and the Guggenheim. There are excellent > > Chinese and Indian restaurants in Lower Manhattan. > > Don't forget about Brooklyn in all this Manhattan praise :-). Consider > the Brooklyn Botanic Garden. It's too late for cherries but the rose > collections will be great. And the best pizza in New York (if you can > get in) is at > http://menupages.com/restaurantdetails.asp?areaid=0&restaurantid=31402&neig… >

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Ransom DDoS attack - need help!
by halp us 18 Jul '25

18 Jul '25

All, I've been a NANOG member for many years but I'm emailing from an anonymous account to reduce the chance of the attackers finding me. A company that shall remain anonymous has received a ransom DDoS note from a very well known group that has been in the news lately. Recently they've threatened to carry out a major DDoS attack if they are not paid by a deadline which is approaching. They've performed an attack of a smaller magnitude to prove that they're serious. Based on certain details that I can't reveal here, we believe the magnitude of the upcoming attack may be in the several hundred Gbps. I would really appreciate help in a few areas (primarily with certain provider contacts/intros) so we can execute our strategy (which I can't reveal here for obvious reasons). If you email me off-list with a name/email that you've previously used on-list, I will reply from my real email. Alternatively, if you can post your experiences on-list with large scale high profile ransom DDoS attacks, I'd really appreciate it! Thanks

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Re: Coherent 100G in QSFP28
by Jared Brown 17 Jul '24

17 Jul '24

On 2/28/23, Pascal Masha wrote: > How much will these cost? ADVA said 4ish grand each. Probably less than five. - Jared

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Issue with Geolocation in Virginia US
by Raja Sekhar Gullapalli 04 Jan '24

04 Jan '24

Team, We are having issues in our Virginia US office & it shows geolocation in all browsers as Canada instead of US region when we access news.google.com in our PC. Our public ip is 129.46.232.65. This issue is being observed for more than 2 month. Can you help to whom we can contact to resolve the issue. Regards, Raja

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Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference
by Sean Donelan 09 Dec '23

09 Dec '23

Of course, every local carrier will be different, what are the current preferences for pre-wiring a customer demarc (NID, the box that hangs on the outside of the house, whatever the service provider calls it now)? 1. Nothing - telco/cable will do whatever the heck they want and wreck the outside of the house anyway 2. Smurf tube from demarc to central distribution point with an interior power outlet near the demarc 3. ANSI TIA-570 prewire (2 x CAT 6, 2 x RG 6) from demarc to central distribution point (low-voltage contractors don't use UV-rated cable for the demarc, and the jacket is trash in a few years) In the past, I found if I made the pre-wire look nice and easy for the field technician, they usually made the extra effort to keep their work clean and tidy.

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The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble
by Dave Taht 06 Dec '23

06 Dec '23

Aside from me pinning the start of the bubble closer to 1992 when commercial activity was allowed, and M&A for ISPs at insane valuations per subscriber by 1995 (I had co-founded an ISP in 93, but try as I might I cannot remember if it peaked at 50 or 60x1 by 1996 (?) and crashed by 97 (?)), this was a whacking good read, seems accurate, and moves to comparing it across that to the present day AI bubble. https://www.fabricatedknowledge.com/p/lessons-from-history-the-rise-and In the end we sold (my ISP, founded 93) icanect for 3 cents on the dollar in 99, and I lost my shirt (not for the first time) on it, only to move into embedded Linux (Montavista) after the enormous pop redhat's IPO had had in 99. The company I was part of slightly prior (Mediaplex) went public December 12, 1999 and cracked 100/share, only to crash by march, 2000 to half the IPO price (around $7 as I recall), wiping out everyone that had not vested yet. I lost my shirt again on that and Montavista too and decided I would avoid VCs henceforth. I am always interested in anecdotal reports of personal events in this increasingly murky past, and in trying to fact check the above link. So much fiber got laid by 2000 that it is often claimed that it was at least a decade before it was used up, (the article says only 2.7% was in use by 2002) and I have always wondered how much dark, broken, inaccessible fiber remains that nobody knows where it even is anymore due to many lost databases. I hear horror stories... The article also focuses solely on the us sector, and I am wondering what it looked like worldwide. I believed in the 90s we were seeing major productivity gains. The present expansion of the internet in my mind should not be much associated with "productivity gains", as, imho, reducing the general population to two thumbs and a 4 inch screen strikes me as an enormous step backwards. (I have a bad habit of cross posting my mails to where older denizens of the internet reside, sorry! If you end up posting to one of my lists I will add a sender allows filter for you) -- :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos

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Fiber/OSP Technician Training and Apprenticeship Programs
by Rhys Barrie 05 Dec '23

05 Dec '23

Hey all, I've recently been working with our county's broadband task force, investigating the expansion and equity of broadband networks on a local and state level. Through that, it's become clear that there's a painful shortage of fiber / outside plant technicians in the state of Michigan (if not nation-wide) in order to fulfill the workforce requirements of maintaining the current broadband fiber infrastructure in the state, much less to fuel fiber expansion, and especially in rural areas. There appear to be few options for training the required workforce, especially outside of the large enterprises that have the resources to run their own internal programs, and small (or even mid-sized) ISPs seem to be left with predominantly informal person-to-person transfer of internal knowledge, assuming that they have the required internal knowledge in the first place. This need for a qualified workforce is exacerbated in the face of the multitude of state and federal programs to encourage broadband internet expansion and equity, such as the upcoming $42.5 billion in BEAD grant funding and corresponding construction starting in ~12-18 months state- and nation-wide. As a result, our workforce development team over here at Mott Community College (Genesee County, MI) is working to develop a fiber / outside plant training and apprenticeship program in order to help address this shortage of qualified personnel and training options at a local and state level. We're looking for some industry contacts that would be interested in collaborating with us to establish high-level requirements regarding what skills need to be taught to prospective fiber / outside plant technicians, what qualifications trainees should have after completion in order to fulfill current workforce demands, and to otherwise provide input in sketching out a high-level curriculum. We're looking for feedback from a wide cross-section of industry stakeholders -- large enterprise backbone transit providers, rural residential ISPs, fiber co-ops and municipal networks, operations and outside plant managers, etc. -- in order to determine what the industry wants and needs, and how the entire community college system can help meet those needs. If anyone thinks that they have valuable input to provide regarding these workforce requirements, or knows the right people to talk to, please reach out and let me know! Rhys Barrie (He/Him) Network Engineer - Mott Community College Member - Genesee County Broadband Task Force (810) 762-0030 | rhys.barrie(a)mcc.edu | https://mcc.edu/

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Infrapedia
by Mike Hammett 29 Nov '23

29 Nov '23

Does anyone have contact information for Infrapedia? Mehmet is no longer there and the contact form on their web site is 404. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

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COM zone operational announcement: DNSSEC algorithm rollover
by Wessels, Duane 28 Nov '23

28 Nov '23

Verisign will soon begin the transition to DNSSEC algorithm 13 (ECDSA) for the COM zone. Over the next few days, algorithm 13 signatures will start to appear in the zone, followed by the algorithm 13 DNSKEY records. We expect the DS record for the COM zone to change from algorithm 8 to algorithm 13 on or around December 7. Additional information can be found at our blog post and DNS-OARC presentation URLs below: https://blog.verisign.com/security/dnssec-algorithm-update/ https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/47/contributions/1012/ We expect no operational impacts for end users, but please feel free to reach out to us with concerns or any observations of anomalous behavior related to this algorithm rollover. DW

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CPE/NID options
by Ross Tajvar 27 Nov '23

27 Nov '23

I'm evaluating CPEs for one of my clients, a regional ISP. Currently, we're terminating the customer's service (L3) on our upstream equipment and extending it over our own fiber to the customer's premise, where it lands in a Juniper EX2200 or EX2300. At a previous job, I used Accedian's ANTs on the customer prem side. I like the ANT because it has a small footprint with only 2 ports, it's passively cooled, it's very simple to operate, it's controlled centrally, etc. Unfortunately, when I reached out to Accedian, they insisted that the controller (which is required) started at $30k, which is a non-starter for us. I'm not aware of any other products like this. Does anyone have a recommendation for a simple L2* device to deploy to customer premises? Not necessarily the exact same thing, but something similarly-featured would be ideal. *I'm not sure if the ANT is exactly "layer 2", but I don't know what else to call it.

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