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overages for power usage
by Alan Hannan 21 Sep '18

21 Sep '18

What kind of typical overage costs have you seen when a customer/you use more than you've committed to? I'm especially interested in datacenter power situations, where maybe you sign up for 5kw or 500kw and use more than that in a given month. Is it billed at the same rate? Is it billed at a higher rate? What's the % increase of the higher rate versus the regular rate? Thanks!

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Re: Reaching out to ARIN members about their RPKI INVALID prefixes
by Jakob Heitz (jheitz) 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

Owen, You are correct in that RPKI leaves many problems unsolved. One that it does solve is prefix splitting. If I issue a ROA for prefix 10.1.2.0/23, any announcement of 10.1.2.0/24 (including mine) will be declared INVALID, because that announcement is covered by the ROA and the mask length is longer than maxlen. Of course, as you rightly point out, if I do NOT announce that prefix myself, then anyone is free to announce it anywhere and have it declared VALID just by prepending my ASN. Regards, Jakob. -----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:18:55 -0700 From: Owen DeLong <owen(a)delong.com> What does RPKI offer other than a way to know what to spoof in a prepend for your forged announcement?

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Reaching out to ARIN members about their RPKI INVALID prefixes
by nusenu 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

Dear NANOG, when I approached ARIN about how they feel about reaching out to their members about prefixes that are unreachable in a route origin validation (ROV) environment, John Curran (CEO ARIN) referred me to you (see email bellow - quoted with permission). The question I asked ARIN was specifically: > Would you be open to reach out to your affected members to inform them about > their affected IP prefixes? John Curran (CEO ARIN) wrote: > If there is evidence of community > Interest, then ARIN can conduct a community consultation to determine > our best role in this area, but you first should encourage discussion > within the network operator community at appropriate forums. So here is my question to the network operator community in the ARIN region to gather if there are any (dis)agreements/opinions about such a notification by ARIN: What do you think about the idea that ARIN actively informs their affected members about prefixes that are unreachable in an RPKI ROV environment? The goal of that outreach/notification would be - to reduce the number of broken legacy ROAs from the past - reduce the negative impact on reachability of affected members. looking forward to receiving your feedback! kind regards, nusenu [1] https://medium.com/@nusenu/towards-cleaning-up-rpki-invalids-d69b03ab8a8c John Curran wrote: > Subject: Reaching out to ARIN members about their RPKI INVALID prefixes > > Nusenu - > > Thank you for writing us - the project (and Medium post on same) are > quite interesting. > > I think you’ve got several options for pursuing your objectives, > including – > > 1) Reaching out to parties that already track and report on Internet > routing hygiene (e.g. Geoff Huston at http://bgp.potaroo.net, the > RPKI validator team at RIPE, the NIST RPKI Deployment monitor - > https://rpki-monitor.antd.nist.gov) to see if of them would like to > report on this information and/or contact those with invalids) > > 2) Raising the issue in the ARIN region via the NANOG operator forum > - this would make an excellent lightening talk for you (or someone > else familiar with it already attending) to speak about at the > upcoming NANOG Vancouver meeting. If there is evidence of community > Interest, then ARIN can conduct a community consultation to determine > our best role in this area, but you first should encourage discussion > within the network operator community at appropriate forums. It is > not appropriate for ARIN staff to be proposing this additional role > for the organization, as we within the ARIN staff follow community > direction rather than set it. > > Thanks! /John > > John Curran President and CEO ARIN > -- https://twitter.com/nusenu_ https://mastodon.social/@nusenu

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SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG: 4 Days To Go!
by Mark Tinka 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

Hi all. With just about 4 days to go until the 4th edition of the SAFNOG meeting, in collaboration with EANOG and tzNOG, we are geared for an exciting week in warm & sunny Dar Es Salaam. The agenda will cover key topics for the region, such as: * Is Africa's continued telecommunications investment into Europe wise for the continent? * Data centre infrastructure development in the region. * What the recent IRR changes at RIPE mean for Africa. * The advances of IPv4 brokers into Africa, using AFRINIC very own resources in doing so. * e.t.c. More details about the meeting, registration, venue and agenda at: http://www.safnog.org/ If you haven't yet, please register your attendance to join us next week. We look forward to seeing you all there. Cheers, Mark Tinka On Behalf of the SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG Organizing Committee

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the prefixes that wont be able to reach Cloudflare by the end of the year (unless RPKI ROAs are fixed)
by nusenu 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

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Console Servers
by Alan Hannan 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

I'd like your input on suggestions for an alternate serial port manager. Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I used portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and they work fairly well but the price is fairly high. I use the CM7100 and IM7100. General specs I'm looking for are: * 8 to 48 or more rs232 serial ports on rj45 * nice-to-have software selectable pinouts (cisco v. straight) * gig-e ethernet port (100mbps ok) * 1U form factor * redundant AC power * access physical serial connections via local port # * access physical serial connections via local IP alias (nice to have) Can you recommend a serial port server/concentrator that I could use in place of opengear for a better value and/or lower cost? I'm just ignorant about the current market for serial port concentrators and so far web searches have not revealed ideas, so your input is appreciated! Thanks! -alan

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Piter-IX and GOOGLE (AS15169)
by A.T 19 Sep '18

19 Sep '18

Hello, I see AS15169 announcements from Piter-IX (https://www.peeringdb.com/ix/2149) but Google PeeringDB entry don't seem include Piter-IX. Any idea, is PeeringDB out of date here or should I be worried? Best regards A.T

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Brovade/Foundry VLAN translation
by Mike Hammett 18 Sep '18

18 Sep '18

I'm not thinking so, but I figured I'd ask here. Is there any way to do VLAN translation on the Brocade VDX-6720 or the Foundry FESX424? Worst case, I'll burn a couple ports looping out and then back in. We are looking to replace the Foundrys with Arista 7050s at some point. -----Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISP

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Re: Massive Price Increase for X-conns at Telehouse Chelsea, NYC
by Scott Weeks 18 Sep '18

18 Sep '18

--- bhm(a)ufl.edu wrote: From: Bruce H McIntosh <bhm(a)ufl.edu> I can remember a conversation like this at a Joint Techs meeting many years back. Several of us were outgassing about how expensive it was to get 100mbps connections off our campuses, until the guy from the University of Hawaii told us how much he was paying per month for a *T1* to the mainland. :D ------------------------------------------- That was many, many (ancient) years back! :-) scott

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Level3 IRR contact
by Brian Rak 17 Sep '18

17 Sep '18

I'm trying to get some old IRR objects removed from the LEVEL3 database, and not having much luck. Their support guys silently closed my ticket and then had our account manager email us directly basically saying "we don't what you want us to do". I used to use routing@level3 to get this done, however they don't seem to reply anymore. http://www.irr.net/docs/list.html directs me to rr(a)level3.net, which has an autoreply that says "open a ticket"

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