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Vendors spamming NANOG attendees
by Rodney Joffe 20 Jun '17

20 Jun '17

It seems that more than just a few of us were spammed by Glenn Stern (gstern(a)calient.net) an employee of Calient following NANOG 70. The spammer had the balls to say, in his email: > > We do not know each other. I'm leveraging the attendee list for NANOG to reach out and raise awareness of the value of OCS (Optical Circuit Switching) in the data center and in particular, the Carrier Neutral Hotel where we've been active with next generation MeetMeRoom discussions. He does not show as an attendee at NANOG, but another executive, David Altstaetter, daltstaetter(a)calient.net did register, and may have even shown up. Hopefully those of you who have traditional community attitudes will show your reaction via your pocketbooks. Maybe its time for the NANOG board and staff to step in, and develop some teeth to use in cases like these? Unless the majority of you members are cool with unfettered spamming of member and attendee lists. In which case, have at it! Rodney

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SAFNOG-3: Sponsorship Opportunities
by Mark Tinka 20 Jun '17

20 Jun '17

Hello all. It gives me great pleasure to announce that the Sponsorship Matrix for SAFNOG-3 is now available at the link below: http://www.safnog.org/matrix.html If you are interested in collaborating with SAFNOG-3 as a sponsor, please do not hesitate to reach out to: secretariat at safnog dot org Any and all support will be sincerely appreciated. We look forward to seeing you in Durban for our next meeting. Cheers, Mark Tinka On Behalf of the SAFNOG Management Committee

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[NANOG-announce] Mailman Maintenance - June 19 - 9PM Eastern
by Valerie Wittkop 19 Jun '17

19 Jun '17

Hello NANOGers, The mailman servers will be undergoing a second maintenance tonight between 9:00 and 10:00pm Eastern. Mail sent to lists hosted on the NANOG mailman servers will be held during the maintenance window. Regular operations will resume once the maintenance is complete. Sincerely, NANOG Staff _______________________________________________ NANOG-announce mailing list NANOG-announce(a)mailman.nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

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Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics
by Tony Wicks 19 Jun '17

19 Jun '17

The guys at fibrestore will point you in the right direction on all this if you ask them these questions. They are actually very helpful and will assign you a specialist to assist. -------- Original message -------- From: Colton Conor <colton.conor(a)gmail.com> Date: 20/06/17 6:26 AM (GMT+12:00) To: NANOG <nanog(a)nanog.org> Subject: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics We are building a 40G metro ring using 40-Gigabit Ethernet QSFP+ Transceivers. Specifically, we are using Juniper JNP-QSFP-40G-LR4. This is a QSFP+ Transceiver with a LC duplex head. We only have one pair of single mode dark fibers around the ring. Our distance between nodes around the ring are all less than 10KM, so we can use standard optics. We go out of one JNP-QSFP-40G-LR4 and into another JNP-QSFP-40G-LR4. There are no passive muxes involved. This is working great for 40G. My understanding is a JNP-QSFP-40G-LR4 is really a transceiver with a CWDM mux built into it. The spec sheet shows it sends 4 10G channels: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/release-independent/junos/topic… Lane wavelength Lane 0–1264.5 nm through 1277.5 nm Lane 1–1284.5 nm through 1297.5 nm Lane 2–1304.5 nm through 1317.5 nm Lane 3–1324.5 nm through 1337.5 nm This setup is working fine, but now we want to do more than 40G around the ring. To my knowledge there are no other 40G QSFP+ transceivers that use four other channel/lanes than the ones already being used, so they only way to go higher than 40G is to stack 10G or 100G channels ontop of the fiber pair using a passive mux. 100G is too expensive for the time being, so we are looking to add 10G channels to a ring that already have one 40G channel using the QSFP+. I was reading this tutorial, and it mentions "there is a 1310 nm port integrated in a 40 channels DWDM Mux/Demux system. The 1310nm added port is a Wide Band Optic port (WBO) added to other specific DWDM wavelengths in a module. When we run out of all channels in a DWDM Mux/Demux system, we can add the extra optics via this 1310nm port." http://www.fs.com/upgrade-to-500g-with-40ch-dwdm-mux-demux-system-aid-493.h… What I can't seem to understand is they are mentioning that this 1310 port can pass QSFP+ signals, so it sounds like its really a 1270nm through 1330nm port? Is this what they mean by Wide Band Optic port (WBO)? We don't need 40 10G channels plus a 40G for a total of 440G. More than likely we are looking at a 8 channel mux/demux, and 1 40G port for a total of 120G. I don't care if we do CWDM vs DWDM, but I assume it will be hard to find a CWDM mux that has one LC dupluex input for 1270nm through 1330nm channels? Maybe I should just ditch the 40G QSFP+ optics and use all 10G optics, but the switches I am using have 48 10G SFP+ ports and 6 QSFP+ ports built in. I know there are 40G breakout cables, but the whole point of 40G is to aggregate VLAN/circuits. Has anyone done this before?

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test - ignore
by i mawsog 19 Jun '17

19 Jun '17

test - ignore

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GozNym - Gozi ISFB - Nymaim
by Aaron Gould 19 Jun '17

19 Jun '17

Anyone experienced in stopping/blocking/cleaning GozNym - Gozi ISFB - Nymaim ? - Aaron Gould

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[NANOG-announce] Mailman Maintenance
by Valerie Wittkop 18 Jun '17

18 Jun '17

Hello NANOGers, The mailman servers will be undergoing maintenance tonight between 8:00 and 8:30pm Eastern. Mail sent to lists hosted on the NANOG mailman servers will be held during the maintenance window. Regular operations will resume once the maintenance is complete. Sincerely, NANOG Staff _______________________________________________ NANOG-announce mailing list NANOG-announce(a)mailman.nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

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Internet connectivity in Nigeria
by Sina Owolabi 18 Jun '17

18 Jun '17

Hi All Currently having a terrible situation in Nigeria where the GLO1 and MainOne cables appear to be both down. Can anyone suggest a good Nigerian ISP with redundancies enough to overcome at least two of the following dying out? SAT-3 WACS GLO1 ACE MainOne Please dont say MTN or any of the Nigerian telcos, except there are no other options, customer service will leave you trying to commit bodily harm.

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Net neutrality filing
by Stephen Satchell 18 Jun '17

18 Jun '17

> https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/10616167661646/satchell.answers2questions.NPRM… Warning: this is 63 pages long, and dull as dishwater. It does have a few color pictures, though. And one comic strip. Summary: fix the statutes (thank you Sen. Stevens, for the junk!) and apply Title II only to monopoly Internet access service providers. I had sent this notice to a listserve (of which I'm a subscriber) of telecomm policy people, and I'm getting a whole lot of pushback. So I thought, why should NANOG lose out on the fun? So, instead of you hearing about this in the sweet bye and bye, I'll get the firestorm over with now, rather than stretching this out for three months. (I'm on this listserve, too.) And if you think my ideas are bad, perhaps you will propose a better suggestion to the FCC about the subject.

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Incapsula AS19551
by Vireak Ouk 17 Jun '17

17 Jun '17

Hello all If anyone from Incapsula can contact me off-list, I would highly appreciate. We are not able to access several sites hosted in Incapsula from source AS59318 and from our downstream. The issues only happened from yesterday. Many thanks vireak

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