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historic SWIP (or rwhois) data?
by Neal Rauhauser 20 Dec '17

20 Dec '17

Hello, I'm working on a forensics problem rather than a network operations issue. I've got a /28 that I can see is currently assigned to a certain company via rwhois. What I want to do is see this block's history over the last five years. It was involved in some problematic behavior back in 2012, I'd really like to know whose name was on it then. It would be ideal if this data were available in some sort of flat file format, or if a sensible API to it exists. I've been searching a little bit, just found this, not really seeing any place to download any of this data though. https://gist.github.com/NetwarSystem/eed78b65d881d0d384664ab713cf5e1f

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Final Reminder to Re-Register DMCA Agents in Electronic System
by Sean Donelan 19 Dec '17

19 Dec '17

The U.S. Copyright Office has been moving DMCA registration from paper forms to an online registration system. All previously filed paper DMCA agent registration forms expire on December 31, 2017. U.S. ISPs and non-US ISPs doing business in the United States should have re-registered using the online DMCA electronic registration. If you've neglected to register using the online system, you have until December 31, 2017. https://www.copyright.gov/newsnet/2017/694.html

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MSN/Azure
by Joe Carroll 19 Dec '17

19 Dec '17

Anyone have a clueful contact at Azure/MSN? We have a block of recently acquired address space being filtered.

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Geolocate data for allocated blocks
by JASON BOTHE 19 Dec '17

19 Dec '17

I am seeking assistance in getting nets I’ve allocated (several months ago) to an office in another RIR region to properly update its geolocate data. In this particular case, I have a net in use in India, but currently reflects Houston as its address although the allocation indicates otherwise. Any databases I should contact or other info is appreciated. Cheers! Jason

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40G and 100G optics options
by Baldur Norddahl 19 Dec '17

19 Dec '17

Hi What options are available for 40G QSFP+ and 100G QSFP28 for 10+ km links? I see a lot of switches offered with QSFP+ and QSFP28. But I do not seem to find the necessary optics to build the links I want. For example, take a look at the options available at Fiberstore: https://www.fs.com/c/generic-40g-qsfp-891 Generic Compatible 40GBASE-LR4 and OTU3 QSFP+ 1310nm 10km LC Transceiver for SMF $340 Generic Compatible 40GBASE-ER4 and OTU3 QSFP+ 1310nm 40km LC Transceiver for SMF $1500 https://www.fs.com/c/generic-qsfp28-100g-transceivers-2858 Generic Compatible QSFP28 100GBASE-LR4 1310nm 10km Transceiver $1999 Generic Compatible QSFP28 100GBASE-ER4 1310nm 40km Transceiver $7000 That is it. Four modules and the 40km are prohibitive expensive. The situation at other vendors appears to be similar. I need stronger modules that can do more than 10 km without being extremely expensive. Or DWDM modules in the 1550 nm band so I can use external amplifiers. Am I looking in the wrong place? Is this expected to be available in the near future? Regards, Baldur

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contact for WCGDB routing registry?
by Christopher Rogers 19 Dec '17

19 Dec '17

Does anyone have a contact for the WCGDB RR? They've got an invalid object registered that is being mirrored to other providers, but I am unable to find any working poc. Also why is wcg.com running an RR that's being mirrored by t1s to begin with? (changed had wcg.com email addr.) cheers -chris

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Eurofiber Contact
by Rod Beck 19 Dec '17

19 Dec '17

Please contact me ASAP concerning Amsterdam DF. Roderick Beck Director of Global Sales United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com<http://www.unitedcablecompany.com> 85 Király utca, 1077 Budapest rod.beck(a)unitedcablecompany.com 36-30-859-5144 [1467221477350_image005.png]

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Multi lane optics
by Baldur Norddahl 19 Dec '17

19 Dec '17

Hello, Some optics are implemented with multiple lasers such as QSFP+ with 4x 10G = 40G or QSFP28 with 4x 25G = 100G. How is the ethernet traffic load balanced between those lanes? Is it bit by bit or more like LACP (packet by packet)? I need to make sure my solution will handle 10G streams correctly. We have a problem with N x 10G and LACP because our L2VPN MPLS endpoints are lacking the flow label support. If I sell a 10G circuit to a customer and uses a L2VPN to transport his port, everything may go on the same sub channel. LACP will not load balance correctly, because it only sees the outer MAC address for hashing, which is the same for all packets. Now we are worried that multi lane optics might have the exact same problem. Regards, Baldur

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Free access to measurement network
by Janusz Jezowicz 18 Dec '17

18 Dec '17

Hello, Feel free to shoot me down if you think I am posting against the rules of this mailing list but I think it may be helpful for some guys here. We have over 1000 routers deployed across US/Canada in over 700 locations and 130+ networks. Those routers can run network tests such as traceroutes,pings,http tests and can be automated using API. I am happy to give out access to anyone on the list - free of charge (inc. for commercial purposes). We are just interested in seeing what can be built on top of it and have capacity now. Please send me an email off-list if you are interested or want more information Thanks Janusz Jezowicz Speedchecker Ltd

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RE: Free access to measurement network
by Naslund, Steve 18 Dec '17

18 Dec '17

It absolutely is the same issue. Rural electrification and rural telecommunications are the same model, neither one happened without govt subsidies because the economics don't work any other way. Same kind of engineering challenges when you build a large expensive distribution system for a very inexpensive product (kilowatts or megabits don't matter much). The ROI is really difficult unless you have a captive audience. That is why you don't see big CLEC build outs. Why pay to put in a fiber cable with a 100 year lifecycle to a customer that might move and/or dump you in the next six months? The churn will kill you. You cannot amortize the cost of the infrastructure within any reasonable time frame. Go ahead and tell a VC that your infrastructure has a 10 - 20 year ROI (if you are lucky) and see if you get laughed out of the room. The WISPs and satellite guys are just like putting in windmills and solar panels to avoid the power company. Some will do it but most don't like the inconvenience or complexity of it. A fringe group at best. Telecom is even worse that power because there is a very good chance that your infrastructure will be obsolete or devalued before it pays for itself. Look at how DWDM technologies murdered the dark fiber markets and oceanic fiber links. Global Crossing ring a bell anyone? In some municipalities the city owns the infrastructure now but they want that big payday from the award of the exclusive contract so there really is not much competition there. In the "open" power market most cities find out that the most viable option turns out to be the incumbent power company that originally built out the infrastructure in the first place. Chicago was a major failure of the open power market when all of the "competitors" had huge price swings and everyone went back to the incumbent Commonwealth Edison. The real motivator was that the city really just wanted a way to get in between the customers and power company, they just could not resist the revenue. Same thing in cable service where the city gets their share of the money for essentially locking out the competition. Steven Naslund Chicago IL >-----Original Message----- >From: UpTide . [mailto:UpTide@live.com] >Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:55 AM >To: Naslund, Steve >Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network > >Sounds like the history of the electric companies.

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