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Weekly Routing Table Report
by Routing Analysis Role Account 16 May '14

16 May '14

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfsinoz(a)gmail.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 17 May, 2014 Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 494425 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 194026 Deaggregation factor: 2.55 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 244746 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 46876 Prefixes per ASN: 10.55 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 35819 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 16376 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 6100 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 178 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.5 Max AS path length visible: 53 Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 50404) 51 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 1767 Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 459 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 6631 Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 4957 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 16579 Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 123 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 3 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 455 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 2686157316 Equivalent to 160 /8s, 27 /16s and 130 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 72.6 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 72.6 Percentage of available address space allocated: 100.0 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 96.4 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 170913 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 117997 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 35118 APNIC Deaggregation factor: 3.36 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 120997 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 50556 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 4941 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 24.49 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1231 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 871 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.6 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 21 Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 947 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 732831104 Equivalent to 43 /8s, 174 /16s and 29 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 85.6 APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319, 58368-59391, 63488-63999, 131072-133631 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 36/8, 39/8, 42/8, 43/8, 49/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 101/8, 103/8, 106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8, 163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 168161 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 83564 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.01 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 169653 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 79930 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 16272 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 10.43 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 6124 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1670 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 4.0 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 20 Number of ARIN region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 103 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 1075289472 Equivalent to 64 /8s, 23 /16s and 157 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 56.9 ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 (pre-ERX allocations) 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647, 29696-30719, 31744-33791 35840-36863, 39936-40959, 46080-47103 53248-55295, 62464-63487, 393216-394239 ARIN Address Blocks 3/8, 4/8, 6/8, 7/8, 8/8, 9/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8, 15/8, 16/8, 17/8, 18/8, 19/8, 20/8, 21/8, 22/8, 23/8, 24/8, 26/8, 28/8, 29/8, 30/8, 32/8, 33/8, 34/8, 35/8, 38/8, 40/8, 44/8, 45/8, 47/8, 48/8, 50/8, 52/8, 53/8, 54/8, 55/8, 56/8, 57/8, 63/8, 64/8, 65/8, 66/8, 67/8, 68/8, 69/8, 70/8, 71/8, 72/8, 73/8, 74/8, 75/8, 76/8, 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8, 100/8, 104/8, 107/8, 108/8, 128/8, 129/8, 130/8, 131/8, 132/8, 134/8, 135/8, 136/8, 137/8, 138/8, 139/8, 140/8, 142/8, 143/8, 144/8, 146/8, 147/8, 148/8, 149/8, 152/8, 155/8, 156/8, 157/8, 158/8, 159/8, 160/8, 161/8, 162/8, 164/8, 165/8, 166/8, 167/8, 168/8, 169/8, 170/8, 172/8, 173/8, 174/8, 184/8, 192/8, 198/8, 199/8, 204/8, 205/8, 206/8, 207/8, 208/8, 209/8, 214/8, 215/8, 216/8, RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 123140 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 62592 RIPE Deaggregation factor: 1.97 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 127720 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 80508 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 17686 RIPE Prefixes per ASN: 7.22 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 8272 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2884 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.0 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 53 Number of RIPE region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 2702 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 657675908 Equivalent to 39 /8s, 51 /16s and 86 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 95.6 RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 (pre-ERX allocations) 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-35839, 38912-39935 40960-45055, 47104-52223, 56320-58367 59392-61439, 61952-62463, 196608-202239 RIPE Address Blocks 2/8, 5/8, 25/8, 31/8, 37/8, 46/8, 51/8, 62/8, 77/8, 78/8, 79/8, 80/8, 81/8, 82/8, 83/8, 84/8, 85/8, 86/8, 87/8, 88/8, 89/8, 90/8, 91/8, 92/8, 93/8, 94/8, 95/8, 109/8, 141/8, 145/8, 151/8, 176/8, 178/8, 185/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/8, 195/8, 212/8, 213/8, 217/8, LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 56577 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 10060 LACNIC Deaggregation factor: 5.62 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 63064 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 29007 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2098 LACNIC Prefixes per ASN: 30.06 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 541 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 437 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.7 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 25 Number of LACNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 1174 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 161174912 Equivalent to 9 /8s, 155 /16s and 85 /24s Percentage of available LACNIC address space announced: 96.1 LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671, 52224-53247, 61440-61951, 262144-263679 plus ERX transfers LACNIC Address Blocks 177/8, 179/8, 181/8, 186/8, 187/8, 189/8, 190/8, 191/8, 200/8, 201/8, AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 11859 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 2654 AfriNIC Deaggregation factor: 4.47 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 12536 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 4364 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 718 AfriNIC Prefixes per ASN: 17.46 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 208 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 152 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.6 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 28 Number of AfriNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 31 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 55690496 Equivalent to 3 /8s, 81 /16s and 197 /24s Percentage of available AfriNIC address space announced: 55.3 AfriNIC AS Blocks 36864-37887, 327680-328703 & ERX transfers AfriNIC Address Blocks 41/8, 102/8, 105/8, 154/8, 196/8, 197/8, APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 4766 2946 11591 922 Korea Telecom 17974 2793 899 72 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 7545 2228 320 117 TPG Telecom Limited 4755 1852 396 199 TATA Communications formerly 9829 1645 1306 37 National Internet Backbone 9583 1315 104 543 Sify Limited 9498 1260 314 86 BHARTI Airtel Ltd. 7552 1223 1082 13 Viettel Corporation 4808 1219 2153 363 CNCGROUP IP network China169 24560 1129 389 183 Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-APNIC ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 6389 2960 3688 53 BellSouth.net Inc. 22773 2438 2937 133 Cox Communications Inc. 1785 2206 701 135 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 18566 2047 379 178 MegaPath Corporation 20115 1706 1689 567 Charter Communications 4323 1632 1073 412 tw telecom holdings, inc. 701 1473 11159 746 MCI Communications Services, 30036 1407 306 549 Mediacom Communications Corp 6983 1327 800 306 ITC^Deltacom 22561 1306 402 232 CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-ARIN RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 34984 1708 264 270 TELLCOM ILETISIM HIZMETLERI A 8402 1497 544 16 OJSC "Vimpelcom" 20940 1328 509 991 Akamai International B.V. 13188 1049 100 28 TOV "Bank-Inform" 31148 1018 45 19 Freenet Ltd. 8551 918 370 40 Bezeq International-Ltd 6849 823 357 28 JSC "Ukrtelecom" 6830 765 2333 427 Liberty Global Operations B.V 12479 722 797 56 France Telecom Espana SA 9198 569 344 25 JSC Kazakhtelecom Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-RIPE LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 28573 3757 1990 99 NET Serviços de Comunicação S 10620 2853 461 202 Telmex Colombia S.A. 18881 1982 972 21 Global Village Telecom 7303 1753 1174 229 Telecom Argentina S.A. 8151 1403 2933 405 Uninet S.A. de C.V. 6503 1108 434 60 Axtel, S.A.B. de C.V. 7738 912 1754 39 Telemar Norte Leste S.A. 27947 876 114 50 Telconet S.A 26615 858 2325 35 Tim Celular S.A. 3816 817 334 136 COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES S Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-LACNIC AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 36998 1114 240 6 Sudanese Mobile Telephone (ZA 24863 961 280 26 Link Egypt (Link.NET) 6713 615 727 32 Office National des Postes et 8452 577 958 13 TE-AS 24835 304 144 9 Vodafone Data 36992 301 783 24 ETISALAT MISR 3741 248 921 209 Internet Solutions 37054 241 19 6 Data Telecom Service 29571 229 22 16 Cote d'Ivoire Telecom 29975 192 668 21 Vodacom Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-AFRINIC Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 28573 3757 1990 99 NET Serviços de Comunicação S 6389 2960 3688 53 BellSouth.net Inc. 4766 2946 11591 922 Korea Telecom 10620 2853 461 202 Telmex Colombia S.A. 17974 2793 899 72 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 22773 2438 2937 133 Cox Communications Inc. 7545 2228 320 117 TPG Telecom Limited 1785 2206 701 135 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 18566 2047 379 178 MegaPath Corporation 18881 1982 972 21 Global Village Telecom Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 6389 2960 2907 BellSouth.net Inc. 17974 2793 2721 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 10620 2853 2651 Telmex Colombia S.A. 22773 2438 2305 Cox Communications Inc. 7545 2228 2111 TPG Telecom Limited 1785 2206 2071 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 4766 2946 2024 Korea Telecom 18881 1982 1961 Global Village Telecom 18566 2047 1869 MegaPath Corporation 4755 1852 1653 TATA Communications formerly Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-CIDRnet List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) ----------------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 65456 PRIVATE 5.109.32.0/19 23456 32bit Transition AS 65456 PRIVATE 5.109.96.0/19 23456 32bit Transition AS 30662 UNALLOCATED 8.2.129.0/24 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 53506 UNALLOCATED 8.17.102.0/23 2828 XO Communications 20260 UNALLOCATED 8.25.160.0/24 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 20260 UNALLOCATED 8.25.161.0/24 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 46473 UNALLOCATED 8.27.122.0/24 12180 Internap Network Ser 46473 UNALLOCATED 8.27.124.0/24 12180 Internap Network Ser 22511 UNALLOCATED 8.28.225.0/24 2828 XO Communications 22511 UNALLOCATED 8.36.68.0/24 2828 XO Communications Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-badAS Prefixes from private and non-routed address space (Global) ----------------------------------------------------------- Prefix Origin AS Description 100.64.0.0/11 7922 Comcast Cable Communications, 100.64.111.0/24 25019 Autonomus System Number for S 100.96.0.0/12 7922 Comcast Cable Communications, Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-dsua Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 27.100.7.0/24 56096 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.73.1.0/24 37004 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.73.2.0/24 37004 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.73.10.0/24 37004 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.73.11.0/24 37004 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.73.12.0/24 37004 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.73.13.0/24 37004 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.73.14.0/24 37004 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.73.15.0/24 37004 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.73.16.0/24 37004 >>UNKNOWN<< Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-add-IANA Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:16 /9:12 /10:30 /11:91 /12:259 /13:486 /14:966 /15:1700 /16:12964 /17:6885 /18:11699 /19:24346 /20:34354 /21:36772 /22:52838 /23:46336 /24:262524 /25:775 /26:929 /27:390 /28:13 /29:20 /30:7 /31:1 /32:12 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 18566 2002 2047 MegaPath Corporation 6389 1692 2960 BellSouth.net Inc. 22773 1683 2438 Cox Communications Inc. 30036 1245 1407 Mediacom Communications Corp 8402 1182 1497 OJSC "Vimpelcom" 11492 1175 1215 CABLE ONE, INC. 1785 1166 2206 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 36998 1080 1114 Sudanese Mobile Telephone (ZA 6983 1044 1327 ITC^Deltacom 34984 1038 1708 TELLCOM ILETISIM HIZMETLERI A Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-sXXas-nos Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 1:1123 2:670 3:3 4:15 5:1000 6:19 8:745 12:1843 13:4 14:997 15:13 16:2 17:32 18:21 20:36 23:820 24:1733 25:1 27:1751 31:1481 32:43 33:2 34:5 36:132 37:1882 38:959 39:8 40:203 41:3165 42:249 44:12 46:2042 47:19 49:703 50:933 52:12 54:47 55:6 57:29 58:1227 59:602 60:408 61:1539 62:1219 63:1962 64:4302 65:2290 66:4192 67:2068 68:1034 69:3332 70:855 71:449 72:2016 74:2652 75:323 76:419 77:1517 78:874 79:706 80:1291 81:1165 82:746 83:752 84:684 85:1294 86:462 87:1157 88:482 89:1829 90:140 91:5684 92:694 93:1712 94:2024 95:1494 96:524 97:364 98:1075 99:48 100:55 101:804 103:4848 105:536 106:170 107:601 108:578 109:2052 110:968 111:1295 112:651 113:846 114:897 115:1124 116:1094 117:941 118:1369 119:1337 120:383 121:811 122:2035 123:1321 124:1407 125:1398 128:582 129:341 130:346 131:661 132:401 133:162 134:321 135:74 136:254 137:296 138:350 139:170 140:214 141:373 142:569 143:464 144:501 145:104 146:624 147:476 148:893 149:355 150:173 151:791 152:420 153:218 154:279 155:484 156:334 157:336 158:240 159:900 160:329 161:542 162:1438 163:221 164:691 165:605 166:281 167:614 168:1050 169:123 170:1405 171:187 172:21 173:1654 174:707 175:599 176:1409 177:2929 178:1979 179:626 180:1730 181:1121 182:1558 183:526 184:700 185:1638 186:2784 187:1539 188:1895 189:1466 190:7511 191:291 192:7263 193:5495 194:4051 195:3497 196:1411 197:646 198:5049 199:5549 200:6273 201:2614 202:9037 203:8893 204:4644 205:2675 206:2935 207:2965 208:3991 209:3722 210:3098 211:1685 212:2295 213:2085 214:879 215:86 216:5511 217:1676 218:581 219:321 220:1291 221:610 222:353 223:580 End of report

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[NANOG-announce] NANOG 61 Final Update
by Betty Burke <betty＠nanog.org> 16 May '14

16 May '14

NANOGers: We are aware of stress regarding the Hyatt Hotel Room Block, therefore, 2 alternate NANOG Room blocks at nearby hotels<https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog61/hotelinformation> have been established. We are confident, all who wish to attend NANOG 61 should find a reasonable hotel rate and room. Contact nanog-support(a)nanog.orgshould you have any questions or concerns regarding the hotels. The NANOG 61 agenda <https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog61/agenda> is posted, and the Evening Social information<https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog61/socials>is also available. Registration for the Education<https://www.nanog.org/meetings/education/bellevue_education_classes/home> class series is open. A few, sponsorship opportunities<https://www.nanog.org/sponsors/opportunities>remain for NANOG 61. Send a note to marketing(a)nanog.org to let us know if you (or your company) maybe interested and we will be sure to get right back to you. Lastly, be aware the meeting registration<https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog61/registration>rate will increase on May 25, 2014. Safe travels to everyone, and we look forward to seeing many of you in Bellevue. Sincerely, Betty -- Betty Burke NANOG Executive Director 48377 Fremont Boulevard, Suite 117 Fremont, CA 94538 Tel: +1 510 492 4030 _______________________________________________ NANOG-announce mailing list NANOG-announce(a)mailman.nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

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[nanog] GoDaddy
by takashi tome 16 May '14

16 May '14

Hi all. Does anyone know whether GoDaddy is alive/down? thanks Takashi

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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality
by Larry Sheldon 15 May '14

15 May '14

On 5/14/2014 4:27 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote: > > On May 14, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach(a)netflight.com> > wrote: > >> I'm constantly amazed at how access networks think they can charge >> 2/3 the price of full transit for just their routes when they >> represent less than 1/10th of the overall traffic volume. > > My guess is that from the perspective of the access providers, they > aren't selling traffic volume or routes, per se - their view is that > they're selling privileged engagement with large numbers of > potentially monetizable individual prospects. In a world ruled by by the dreaded principles of completion, that would be described as the price where buyer and seller agreed on the value of the product. > Note that I'm neither endorsing nor disputing this perspective, just > mooting it as a possible explanation.| I do endorse a free market as providing the best value to all. > Are there any real-world models out there for revenue-sharing between > app/content providers and access networks which would eliminate or > reduce 'paid peering' (an alternate way to think of it is as > 'delimited transit', another oxymoron like 'paid peering', but with a > slightly different emphasis) monetary exchanges? Maybe it is time to try a free market. -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to learn from their mistakes. (Adapted from Stephen Pinker)

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Observations of an Internet Middleman / RIP Network Neutrality
by Owen DeLong 15 May '14

15 May '14

> Yes, you've got "some of the largest Internet companies as customers². > Because you told them "if you don't pay us, we'll throttle you". Then > you throttled them. I'm sorry, not a winning argument. > Nick Claims by some large ISPs that this is “untrue” rest on the claim that they don’t do traffic discrimination. While they may not be (and, indeed, are not allowed to) do traffic discrimination, what is ignored is that refusing to add sufficient peering capacity is, to the consumer’s perspective (and to the content provider’s perspective as well) effectively the same thing as throttling. I will note that as yet, not one of these providers has claimed that they did not refuse to increase peering capacity in order to leverage payment, and, indeed, payment does appear to have been leveraged. Owen

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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)
by Scott Weeks 15 May '14

15 May '14

From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster(a)mykolab.com> On 5/15/2014 10:06 AM, Ryan Brooks wrote: > It's a shame the use of 'fast lane' is ubiquitous in this argument. > If the local distribution networks would like to actually build > something fast, then this would be a different story. Okay, then call it the "faster lane" or the "uncongested lane" or something that actually reflects bias and preferential treatment. It's a done deal now: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/05/15/fcc-approves-p… -------------------------------------------- According to the doc it's not a done deal: "The proposal is not a final rule, but the vote on Thursday is a significant step forward" "Agencies almost always change their rules from the initial proposal" "The next phase will be four months of public comments, after which the commissioners will vote again on redrafted rules that are meant to take into account public opinion." But, yeah. I don't believe for a minute that all/any this is above board when it's coming from a lobbyist. scott

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Possible Comcast Load Balancing issues in Chicago?
by Metro-Inet Netops 15 May '14

15 May '14

It’s possible I’m missing something, but it looks like traffic from Comcast business customers in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area is not all making it through Chicago to my VPN endpoints. Testing to some of my address space from one of the Comcast remote VPN sites, I can get to some numbers and not others (odds/evens switch roles depending on the block I trace) fall apart hopping though Chicago. Testing to the same addresses from the HE looking glass, everything seems fine. Any input or even knowledge that it’s being worked on would be appreciated. Traceroutes below: Fails: HUGO-CH-2921#trace 199.249.109.13 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to vpn.metro-inet.us (199.249.109.13) VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id) 1 75-149-158-38-minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (75.149.158.38) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 73.237.168.1 12 msec 12 msec 16 msec 3 te-4-2-ur02.whitebear.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.85.167.37) 16 msec 16 msec 16 msec 4 te-2-1-ur02.oakdale.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.138) 16 msec 16 msec 16 msec 5 te-8-3-ur01.oakdale.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.109) 20 msec 12 msec 16 msec 6 te-0-3-0-5-ar01.crosstown.mn.minn.comcast.net (69.139.176.61) 16 msec 16 msec 20 msec 7 pos-0-0-0-0-ar01.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.194) 16 msec 16 msec 12 msec 8 he-1-12-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.94.77) 24 msec 24 msec 28 msec 9 * * * 10 * Gets Through: HUGO-CH-2921#trace 199.249.109.14 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 199.249.109.14 VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id) 1 75-149-158-38-minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (75.149.158.38) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 73.237.168.1 8 msec 12 msec 8 msec 3 te-4-2-ur01.whitebear.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.85.167.33) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec 4 te-2-1-ur02.shoreview.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.129) 8 msec 12 msec 12 msec 5 te-8-3-ur01.shoreview.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.125) 12 msec 8 msec 8 msec 6 te-0-3-0-6-ar01.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.178) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec 7 he-1-11-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.94.73) 28 msec 20 msec 24 msec 8 ix-7-0-3-0.tcore1.CT8-Chicago.as6453.net (64.86.137.33) 16 msec 16 msec 20 msec 9 206.82.141.90 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec 10 hurricane-ic-124397-chi-bb1.c.telia.net (213.248.104.214) 24 msec 24 msec 28 msec 11 100ge13-1.core1.msp1.he.net (184.105.223.178) 36 msec 24 msec 28 msec 12 city-of-roseville.gigabitethernet3-8.core1.msp1.he.net (184.105.249.218) 28 msec 28 msec 24 msec 13 199.249.109.227 28 msec 24 msec 28 msec Gets Through: HUGO-CH-2921#trace 67.88.181.25 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to ip67-88-181-25.z181-88-67.customer.algx.net(67.88.181.25) VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id) 1 pubwp.comcast.net (75.149.158.38) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 73.237.168.1 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec 3 te-4-2-ur01.whitebear.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.85.167.33) 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec 4 te-2-1-ur02.shoreview.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.129) 8 msec 8 msec 12 msec 5 te-8-3-ur01.shoreview.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.125) 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec 6 te-0-3-0-6-ar01.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.178) 8 msec 12 msec 12 msec 7 he-1-12-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.94.77) 24 msec 20 msec 16 msec 8 ix-2-3-0-0.tcore1.CT8-Chicago.as6453.net (64.86.137.41) 24 msec 16 msec 40 msec 9 p5-1.ir1.chicago2-il.us.xo.net (206.111.2.33) 68 msec 20 msec 80 msec 10 207.88.14.193.ptr.us.xo.net (207.88.14.193) 32 msec 32 msec 36 msec 11 ae0d0.mcr1.minneapolis-mn.us.xo.net (216.156.0.170) 28 msec 28 msec 28 msec Fails: HUGO-CH-2921#trace 67.88.181.26 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to webvpn.metro-inet.us (67.88.181.26) VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id) 1 pubwp.comcast.net (75.149.158.38) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 73.237.168.1 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec 3 te-4-2-ur02.whitebear.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.85.167.37) 8 msec 12 msec 8 msec 4 te-2-1-ur02.oakdale.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.138) 8 msec 12 msec 20 msec 5 te-8-3-ur01.oakdale.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.109) 8 msec 8 msec 12 msec 6 te-0-3-0-5-ar01.crosstown.mn.minn.comcast.net (69.139.176.61) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec 7 pos-0-1-0-0-ar01.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.2) 8 msec 8 msec 12 msec 8 he-1-13-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.94.81) 24 msec 24 msec 20 msec 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * 12 * * * Gets Through: HUGO-CH-2921#trace 67.88.181.27 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to ip67-88-181-27.z181-88-67.customer.algx.net(67.88.181.27) VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id) 1 pubwp.comcast.net (75.149.158.38) 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec 2 73.237.168.1 8 msec 12 msec 8 msec 3 te-4-2-ur02.whitebear.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.85.167.37) 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec 4 te-8-3-ur01.whitebear.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.133) 12 msec 12 msec 4 msec 5 te-2-1-ur02.shoreview.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.129) 8 msec 12 msec 8 msec 6 te-8-3-ur01.shoreview.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.125) 16 msec 8 msec 8 msec 7 te-0-3-0-6-ar01.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.178) 12 msec 12 msec 16 msec 8 he-1-13-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.94.81) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec 9 ix-2-2-1-0.tcore1.CT8-Chicago.as6453.net (64.86.137.37) 16 msec 16 msec 16 msec 10 p5-1.ir1.chicago2-il.us.xo.net (206.111.2.33) 32 msec 72 msec 96 msec 11 207.88.14.193.ptr.us.xo.net (207.88.14.193) 36 msec 32 msec 32 msec 12 ae0d0.mcr1.minneapolis-mn.us.xo.net (216.156.0.170) 28 msec 28 msec 32 msec 13 * * * Fails: HUGO-CH-2921#trace 67.88.181.28 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to ip67-88-181-28.z181-88-67.customer.algx.net(67.88.181.28) VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id) 1 pubwp.comcast.net (75.149.158.38) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 73.237.168.1 12 msec 8 msec 12 msec 3 te-4-2-ur01.whitebear.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.85.167.33) 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec 4 te-2-1-ur02.shoreview.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.129) 8 msec 8 msec 12 msec 5 te-8-3-ur01.shoreview.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.125) 12 msec 8 msec 8 msec 6 te-0-3-0-6-ar01.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.178) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec 7 he-1-11-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.94.73) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 * Mark Mayfield City of Roseville – AS 54371 Network Systems Engineer 2660 Civic Center Drive Roseville, MN 55113 651-792-7098 Office

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NANOG 61 hotel
by Jon Lewis 15 May '14

15 May '14

The Hyatt appears to have filled up. :( Anyone have alternate hotel recommendations? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route | therefore you are _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________

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IPAM DDI Software, Subscriber Management, CMDB and Per Customer VLANs
by Kyle Leissner 15 May '14

15 May '14

I would like recommendations on the following software/hardware elements required to run an access network. Assume you are building a greenfield network using a combination of access technologies such as DSL, GPON, AE, and WiFi. IPAM / DDI Solution: Needs full support for IPv6, Customer VLANs, RFC 1918, VRF, Overlapping Address Space, integration with DNS, DNSSEC, Integration with DHCP, and integration with ARIN. Looks like there are both open source and commercial solutions available according to old NANOG posts. Which cater to service providers? Who are the leaders in this space? Does anyone have experience with dealing with multiple vendors? Subscriber Management/BRAS/BNG: Redback was the big player back in the day, but I believe they are no longer. Juniper has their Subscriber Management feature pack on their MX routers, and Cisco has their Broadband Network Gateway on their ASR routers. Besides these two vendors I am not sure what other solutions are out there. I believe both of these solutions communicate upstream to external radius servers and DHCP servers. Is anyone using Subscriber Management, or is there another way of doing it? CMDB: A centralized database to keep track of all assets within the network would be nice. I would assume this would need to tie in with the IPAM solution and billing systems. I would also like to hear thoughts on the per customer VLAN model. Most of the whitepapers recommend a per customer VLAN for greenfield networks, but that seems like a management and documentation nightmare. The systems described above must be able to manage and maintain per customer VLANs in an automated fashion for this approach to work and scale. If you had your choice starting from the ground up how would you deploy an access network today?

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FYI: Unbreakable VPN using Vyatta/VyOS -HOW TO-
by Naoto MATSUMOTO 15 May '14

15 May '14

Hi all! We wrote TIPS memo about the Basic Idea for inter-cloud networking using Virtual Router (a.k.a Brocade Vyatta vRotuer and VyOS) with High Availability Concept. Please enjoy it if you interest in ;-) Unbreakable VPN using Vyatta/VyOS -HOW TO- http://slidesha.re/1lryGVU Best Regards, -- SAKURA Internet Inc. / Senior Researcher Naoto MATSUMOTO <n-matsumoto(a)sakura.ad.jp> SAKURA Internet Research Center <http://research.sakura.ad.jp/>

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