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Comcast IPv6 issues..?
by Stephen Frost 03 Dec '14

03 Dec '14

Hey all, Getting delays and seeing some pretty funky routes inside Comcast. All traces start from Ashburn, VA (2001:4830:167b::) and go to Chicago, IL (2610:150:4b0f::). Coming from Occaid/SIXXS (over a tunnel) through HE.net and have seen: Ashburn -> San Jose -> New York -> Chicago ----- 3 sixxs-asbnva-gw.customer.occaid.net (2001:4830:e6:7::2) 9.955 ms 10.583 ms 10.17 ms 4 iad0-b0-ge2.hotnic.net (2001:4810:0:100::1) 9.726 ms 11.004 ms 9.956 ms 5 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.ash1.he.net (2001:504:0:2::6939:1) 10.069 ms 10.674 ms 12.465 ms 6 2001:559::db5 (2001:559::db5) 94.83 ms 95.593 ms 94.768 ms 7 pos-2-2-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f58d::1) 96.779 ms 99.591 ms 94.964 ms 8 he-0-7-0-0-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f5ba::2) 89.969 ms 91.143 ms 92.507 ms 9 he-0-11-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f5b8::2) 97.411 ms 88.731 ms 87.457 ms 10 he-0-10-0-0-pe04.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f8cc::2) 87.444 ms 88.756 ms 87.505 ms 11 2001:550:2:2::32:2 (2001:550:2:2::32:2) 89.812 ms 88.774 ms 87.558 ms ----- Ashburn -> New York (but with lots of latency..) -> Chicago ----- 3 sixxs-asbnva-gw.customer.occaid.net (2001:4830:e6:7::2) 9.549 ms 10.652 ms 10.107 ms 4 iad0-b0-ge2.hotnic.net (2001:4810:0:100::1) 9.975 ms 11.044 ms 10.009 ms 5 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.ash1.he.net (2001:504:0:2::6939:1) 17.423 ms 11.05 ms 12.27 ms 6 2001:559::db5 (2001:559::db5) 95.197 ms 95.968 ms 94.793 ms 7 he-2-6-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f8d2::1) 105.158 ms 101.428 ms 94.993 ms 8 he-0-7-0-0-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f5ba::2) 89.735 ms 90.266 ms 92.577 ms 9 he-0-11-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f5b8::2) 89.813 ms 92.963 ms 92.383 ms 10 he-0-10-0-0-pe04.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f8cc::2) 87.401 ms 88.15 ms 87.085 ms 11 2001:550:2:2::32:2 (2001:550:2:2::32:2) 122.387 ms 124.288 ms 122.409 ms ----- Ashburn -> Chicago -> New York -> Chicago ----- 3 sixxs-asbnva-gw.customer.occaid.net (2001:4830:e6:7::2) 9.926 ms 10.183 ms 9.978 ms 4 iad0-b0-ge2.hotnic.net (2001:4810:0:100::1) 9.961 ms 11.37 ms 9.973 ms 5 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.ash1.he.net (2001:504:0:2::6939:1) 9.95 ms 18.258 ms 9.951 ms 6 2001:559::db5 (2001:559::db5) 94.959 ms 96.413 ms 95.001 ms 7 he-1-10-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f552::1) 92.457 ms 92.964 ms 89.965 ms 8 he-0-7-0-0-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f5ba::2) 89.789 ms 91.291 ms 97.333 ms 9 he-0-11-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f5b8::2) 87.518 ms 95.961 ms 87.506 ms 10 he-0-10-0-0-pe04.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (2001:558:0:f8cc::2) 87.406 ms 86.414 ms 87.425 ms 11 2001:550:2:2::32:2 (2001:550:2:2::32:2) 87.517 ms 86.589 ms 87.506 ms ----- Thoughts? Thanks, Stephen

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Transparent hijacking of SMTP submission...
by joel jaeggli 03 Dec '14

03 Dec '14

I don't see this in my home market, but I do see it in someone else's... I kind of expect this for port 25 but... J@mb-aye:~$telnet 147.28.0.81 587 Trying 147.28.0.81... Connected to nagasaki.bogus.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 nagasaki.bogus.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.9/8.14.9; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:17:44 GMT ehlo bogus.com 250-nagasaki.bogus.com Hello XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.wa.comcast.net [XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX], pleased to meet you 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES J@mb-aye:~$telnet 2001:418:1::81 587 Trying 2001:418:1::81... Connected to nagasaki.bogus.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 nagasaki.bogus.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.9/8.14.9; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:18:33 GMT ehlo bogus.com 250-nagasaki.bogus.com Hello [IPv6:2601:7:2380:XXXX:XXXX:XXXX:c1ae:7d73], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN 250-STARTTLS 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP that's essentially a downgrade attack on my ability to use encryption which seems to be in pretty poor taste frankly.

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IPligence contact?
by George, Wes 03 Dec '14

03 Dec '14

if anyone has a live-person contact at geolocation provider IPligence (http://www.ipligence.com/) and can hit me up off-list, I would appreciate it. Thanks, Wesley George Time Warner Cable Anything below this line has been added by my company’s mail server, I have no control over it. ----------- This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout.

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Google contact: apps vs IPv6 issue
by Max Tulyev 03 Dec '14

03 Dec '14

Hello! Could someone advice a good contact inside Google? I'm operating a IPv6 tunnel broker http://tb.netassist.ua/ Now there are a number of complaints tunnel broker users can't access Google Apps with the reason "We're sorry, but this service is not available in your country". IPv4 access to same pages from Ukraine is OK, and MaxMind GeoIP replies our IPv6 network we are using in our service is "NetAssist, Ukraine".

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How to track DNS resolution sources
by Notify Me 03 Dec '14

03 Dec '14

Hi! I hope I'm wording this correctly. I had a incident at a client site where a DNS record was being spoofed. How does one track down the IP address that's returning the false records ? What tool can one use? Thanks! -- Sent from MetroMail

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Phasing out of copper
by Jean-Francois Mezei 03 Dec '14

03 Dec '14

Currently in the midst of a CRTC policy hearing in Canada on future of competition in ISPs. Incumbents claim they have no plans to retire their copper plant after deploying FTTP/FTTH. (strategically to convince regulator that keeping ISPs on copper is fine and no need to let them access FTTP). For my reply I am trying to get more authoritative info to show that incumbents do have plans to retire the copper plant once enough customers have migrated to FTTP ( I heard that 80% migration is the tip-ver where they convert the rest of customers to FTTP to be able to shutddown the copper). Anyone have pointers to documents or experiences that would help me convince the regulator that incumbents deploy FTTP with eventual goal to be able to shutdown their old copper instead of perpetually maintaining both systems ? Also being discussed is removing regulations for access to ULL (unbundled local loops). In areas being upgraded to FTTP, are there services that really need copper ULLs and do not have an FTTP equivalent ? (home alarm systems ?). When an incumbent states for the record that "retiring copper is not in their current plans", I know that it means that it isn't in their short term plans. But I need some evidence of what other telcos do to help show the incumbent is "spinning". Any help appreciated.

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Hibernia/Atrato contacts
by Alistair Mackenzie 03 Dec '14

03 Dec '14

Hi, Does anyone have a contact for a sales/account manager at Hibernia/Atrato located in the UK timezone or even +1? Please contact me off list with the details. Thanks, Alistair

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Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange
by Colton Conor 02 Dec '14

02 Dec '14

I know typically peering exchanges are made for peering traffic between providers, but can you buy IP transit from a provider on an exchange? An example, buy a 10G port on an exchange, peer 5Gbps of traffic with multiple providers on the exchange, and buy 5Gbps of IP transit from others on the exchange? Some might ask why not get a cross connect to the provider. It is cheaper to buy an port on the exchange (which includes the cross connect to the exchange) than buy multiple cross connects. Plus we are planning on getting a wave to the exchange, and not having any physical routers or switches at the datacenter where the exchange/wave terminates at. Is this possible?

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Global Switch Singapore - OOB IP
by Cameron Daniel 02 Dec '14

02 Dec '14

Hi all Realise this may not be the best place to post this, but currently looking for someone in MMR1 in Global Switch SG who can provide a low speed IP link for OOB. Copper hand off, no BGP peering required. Off-list replies welcome Cheers Cameron

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[NANOG-announce] NANOG 63 - San Antonio - Call for Presentations is Open!
by Tony Tauber 02 Dec '14

02 Dec '14

Greetings NANOG Folks, It was great to see so many of you (~700) at NANOG 62 in Baltimore. NANOG will hold its 63rd meeting in San Antonio, TX on February 2-4, 2015, hosted by CyrusOne. The NANOG Program Committee is now seeking proposals for presentations, panels, tutorials, tracks sessions, and keynote materials for the NANOG 63 program. We invite presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon-to-be deployed in the Internet, . Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present real-world deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. Key dates to track if you wish to submit a presentation: Date Event/Deadline Oct. 27, 2014 CFP Opens for NANOG 63 Dec. 05, 2014 CFP Deadline #1: Presentation Abstracts Due Dec. 12, 2014 CFP Topic List Posted Jan. 02, 2015 CFP Deadline #2: Presentation Slides Due Jan. 09, 2015 Meeting Agenda Published Jan. 30, 2015 Speaker FINAL presentations to PCTool or speaker-support Feb. 02, 2015 Lightning Talk Submissions Open (Abstracts Only) NANOG 63 submissions are welcome on the Program Committee Site <https://pc.nanog.org/> or email me if you have questions. See the detailed NANOG63 Call for Presentations <https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog63/callforpresentations> for more information. Let's see each other in San Antonio where, apparently, the typical high temps in February are 65F/18C. Thanks, Tony Tauber Chair, Program Committee North American Network Operator Group (NANOG) _______________________________________________ NANOG-announce mailing list NANOG-announce(a)mailman.nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

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