August 2013 - Test - lists.nanog.org

Re: Problems with routing to a couple of IPs
by Dylan Humphreys 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

Hit send too early then! :D

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How does Google Global Cache selects which cache to redirect a client?
by Nathanael C. Cariaga 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

Hi, Just wondering if anyone here I can discuss offline about Google Global Cache? I am interested in knowing how does the cache selection process takes place (i.e. how does Google know to which cache to redirect a client). I would also like to know what if I have 2 upstreams who both have GGCs installed in their network, how would the selection process takes place. Thank you very much in advance. Regards, -- -nathan

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hotmail / live.com contact
by John Zettlemoyer 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

Could someone from the hotmail / live.com mail group contact me off list please. Thank you. John Zettlemoyer

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Contact for Hetzner AS24940 and Host Europe AS20773?
by bottiger 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

Anyone know of any contacts for Hetzner AS24940 and Host Europe AS20773? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Typical warranty for generic DWDM transceivers
by Clayton Zekelman 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

FWIW, I've never had an issue with third party optics. Particularly if they're OEM Finisar, JDSU, etc... At 09:35 AM 20/08/2013, Jay Ashworth wrote: >----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brandon Ross" <bross(a)pobox.com> > > > > She has sold many thousands of optics, all with lifetime warrantys. > > Many of them to very large and clueful organizations, many of whom are > > represented here on NANOG. Of those thousands sold, I can count less > > than 20 that have been returned. > > > > I've also worked for VARs in the past, and work with several of > > them today, selling new OEM branded optics. I've found a MUCH higher > > percentage of OEM optics having to be returned to the manufacturer. > > > > Of course, take my report with a grain of salt. > >Not at all: No one is gonna stop buying Cisco cause a Cisco optic died. > >Third-party manufacturers don't have that built in cushion, so it's not >unreasonable that they might pay the higher degree of attention to >reliability that your off-the-cuff statistics imply. > >You do want to go third-party, though, not fourth-party or below. :-) > >Cheers, >-- jra >-- >Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra(a)baylink.com >Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 >Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII >St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274 --- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409

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Re: Vancouver IXP - VanTX - BCNet
by Randy Bush 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

> are these open, neutral, ixps, a la six etc? or big players trying to > save the internet from itself? > > would some of the *local* providers in the areas who actually use the > cira ixen care to report on the experience? ok, i have heard privately from folk who i respect. cira seems to be on the up and up and doing good professional work. randy

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Typical warranty for generic DWDM transceivers
by Manuel Marín 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

Dear nanog group We are currently evaluating the use of generic third party optics (SFP+ and XFP) for 40Kms and 80Kms applications from vendors like NHR and Champion One and I was wondering if someone in the group has experience using optics from these vendors. My concern is about quality/reliability. They are suppose to provide lifetime warranty, however as far as I know the life time for DWDM optics is between 3 to 5 years. Could someone share their experience with using generic optics for DWDM applications? Thank you

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Re: Trivium
by Martin Hotze 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:11:23 -0400 > From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick(a)ianai.net> > Subject: Re: Trivium > > On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:42 , Blake Dunlap <ikiris(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Without Google, how do you know where anything even *is*? > > Pretending that wasn't a troll, I wonder how much of the traffic these > days is things like AppleTV, Roku, OS updates, iThing/Android 'Apps', etc. > that do not require a user to type "www.bing.com" into the Google search > box[*] so they can find the web page. we're running a wifi hotspot system with about 1,000 users daily. The top 10 domains on the firewall stats (content filter) are apple and f*cebook domains. So when you plan filtering out apple and/or f*cebook you might also shut down the hotspot, because for most users the 'net' then seems to be br0ken. > [*] I've actually see someone type "www.yahoo.com" into the Google search > box, then use Yahoo! to search for something. Don't ask.... "Never type google into google because you can break the Internet!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqxLmLUT-qc ^^^^^^^^^^^ damn, another google domain ... :-) #m

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Trivium
by Larry Sheldon 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57598978-93/google-outage-reportedly-cause… "How big is the Internet"? Depends in whether Google is up or not? -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to learn from their mistakes. (Adapted from Stephen Pinker)

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Re: Trivium
by Larry Sheldon 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

On 8/20/2013 12:29 AM, Matthew Petach wrote: > I'm curious; do people really think that the difference in material > indexed between Google, Yahoo/Bing, and others is really that > big? I don't mean the heuristics and algorithms used to return > the results in a particularly useful order; I mean the sheer raw > set of indexed pages. I don't debate that Google found a > particularly useful page ranking system; but I question the > notion that the loss of Google was akin to the loss of your > root directory. I don't think the other engines are nearly as badly poisoned by the SEO crap. -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to learn from their mistakes. (Adapted from Stephen Pinker)

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