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DNS Changer items
by Eric J Esslinger 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

A) The DNS changer working group site http://www.dns-ok.us seems to be down for the clean people anyway. (Down for everyone agrees with me). B) Fox, CNN, and MSNBC have apparantly all run stories in the last couple of hours that essentially ended with 'Call your ISP if you have any questions' (gee thanks). And I'm told the ABC/CBS/NBC are running the same basic thing tonight, with the same basic ending. The more you know... __________________________ Eric Esslinger Information Services Manager - Fayetteville Public Utilities http://www.fpu-tn.com/ (931)433-1522 ext 165 This message may contain confidential and/or proprietary information and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited.

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NANOG 56 - Dallas, TX: Call For Presentations
by David Temkin 13 Aug '12

13 Aug '12

NANOG Community, After a great NANOG in Vancouver, BC, the survey results are in from 55 and we are already assembling a world-class program for NANOG 56. The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 56th meeting in Dallas, TX on October 21 - 23, 2012 and join with ARIN on October 24, 2012. Terremark, a Verzion company, will be our host for NANOG 56. The NANOG Program Committee is now seeking proposals for presentations, panels, tutorials, tracks sessions, and keynote materials for the NANOG 56 program. We invite presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon-to-be deployed in the Internet. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present real-world deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. NANOG 56 submissions are welcome at http://pc.nanog.org <http://pc.nanog.org/> For further information on what the Program Committee is seeking, please see http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog56/callforpresentations.html When considering submitting a presentation, keep these important dates in mind: Presentation Abstracts and Draft Slides Due: 06-August-2012 Final Slides Due: 27-August-2012 Draft Program Published: 17-September-2012 Final Agenda Published: 1-October-2012 Please submit your materials to http://pc.nanog.org Looking forward to seeing everyone in Dallas! -Dave Temkin (Chair, NANOG Program Committee)

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Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?
by Justin M. Streiner 09 Aug '12

09 Aug '12

All: I realize this might be a bit of a fool's errand, but I'm trying to determine if Verizon will speak BGP with FiOS business customers. Their website is relatively lean on details. Everything that mentions BGP points to VZB services, which does not appear to include FiOS. Looking at the routing table, I do see several non-VZ ASNs downstream of AS19262, so it looks like it might be possible. If that is the case, could anyone lend any insight to get past the "what is BGP?" response that likely awaits from their salescritters? jms

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Update from the NANOG Communications Committee regarding recent off-topic posts
by Matt Griswold 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

As a quick update, we've implemented some list settings last week to help to keep spam off the list. New subscribers are moderated until we're comfortable with their posts. We rejected the idea of keyword based message filtering since not only is a lot of work to maintain, it's trivial to get around it if you really want to post banned words. Comments and suggestions are welcome. Matt Griswold, on behalf of the NANOG Communications Committee

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Fwd: Re: DOCSIS 3.0 & PPPoE/L2TP compatibility
by Scott Helms 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

I've actually run into this specific problem and the issue your running into is that at no time was PPPoE part of the DOCSIS specification. It was supported on several CMTSs because the Cisco UBR shares much of its OS with more mainline Cisco routers which support L2TP and a host of other non-DOCSIS related protocols. It was also widely supported on some of the earliest CMTSs which were bridges instead of routers (then you needed a separate box to be the LNS). The real problem isn't a change in DOCSIS version but that they choose a platform that doesn't share a code base with a general purpose router. This could have been happenstance or by design, but I can tell you your chances of getting PPPoE to work at all on that platform (even for the cable operator) are not high because the box will not operate as a bridge and there is no (AFAIK) way to relay the PPP discover packets. The D3 Arris is either a C4 or a C4C: http://www.arrisi.com/products/product.asp?id=3 On 7/30/2012 8:33 AM, iptech wrote: > Hi, > > We are a small ISP and have a setup in place with the local cable > company for terminating their users via L2TP for Internet access. > However they have just announced to us that they are moving to a > DOCSIS 3.0 compliant setup, and this standard no longer supports PPPoE > via L2TP, and can now only offer PPTP for terminating with us. > > We have already begun replacing our Cisco 7206VXR LNS devices with > Cisco ASR 1Ks and as you will be aware the older 7206 can do both L2TP > and PPTP, whereas the ASR1k can do only L2TP. I do not have any > experience in the cable arena, but from what I have read in the DOCSIS > standards, each version has maintained backwards compatibility, > therefore I am very surprised our CableCo has claimed they cannot do > PPPoE/L2TP anymore. > > The CMTS they are currently using is a Cisco, and now they are moving > to a new ARRIS CMTS. I have not been able to find any information on > this device and what it can do or not. With the ASR1K marked as the > natural upgrade path for LNS functions, therefore I cannot believe > that it is not fully compatible with DOCSIS 3.0. > > From what I can tell the only way to accommodate the new CMTS PPTP > connections will be to terminate them on the legacy 7206VXR, which at > the end of the day is a backwards step. I would greatly appreciate if > anyone can give me any pointers and/or suggestions on this matter, so > I can understand it and move it forward. > > FYI: The driver for the CMTS upgrades is to offer higher bandwidth > access speeds 15mb-20mb. > > Thank you. > > > > > -- Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms -------------------------------- -- Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms --------------------------------

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Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?
by Lou Katz 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

One of my users has reported incoming mail failures, which I finally tracked down. It turned out that Hotmail has seen fit to send the mail to his domain's A record machine, despite the fact that he has valid MX records. The A record points to my webserver, which does not normally accept mail for anyone. The mail server MX records are to an entirely different machine. Comments? Do I need more valium? -=[L]=- --

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DOCSIS 3.0 & PPPoE/L2TP compatibility
by iptech 01 Aug '12

01 Aug '12

Hi, We are a small ISP and have a setup in place with the local cable company for terminating their users via L2TP for Internet access. However they have just announced to us that they are moving to a DOCSIS 3.0 compliant setup, and this standard no longer supports PPPoE via L2TP, and can now only offer PPTP for terminating with us. We have already begun replacing our Cisco 7206VXR LNS devices with Cisco ASR 1Ks and as you will be aware the older 7206 can do both L2TP and PPTP, whereas the ASR1k can do only L2TP. I do not have any experience in the cable arena, but from what I have read in the DOCSIS standards, each version has maintained backwards compatibility, therefore I am very surprised our CableCo has claimed they cannot do PPPoE/L2TP anymore. The CMTS they are currently using is a Cisco, and now they are moving to a new ARRIS CMTS. I have not been able to find any information on this device and what it can do or not. With the ASR1K marked as the natural upgrade path for LNS functions, therefore I cannot believe that it is not fully compatible with DOCSIS 3.0. From what I can tell the only way to accommodate the new CMTS PPTP connections will be to terminate them on the legacy 7206VXR, which at the end of the day is a backwards step. I would greatly appreciate if anyone can give me any pointers and/or suggestions on this matter, so I can understand it and move it forward. FYI: The driver for the CMTS upgrades is to offer higher bandwidth access speeds 15mb-20mb. Thank you.

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Fiji Islands
by Philip Lavine 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)?

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You thought you had... wiring issues!!!
by Network IPdog 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

Mates. WiringIssues.jpg Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!! A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.

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mail.yahoo.com
by Kain, Rebecca (.) 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

It just stopped loading for me and when it did come up, and I got a "terms of agreement" new pop up which circles in an endless loop no matter what you click. Anyone else seeing this today at yahoo.com?

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