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Questions about anycasting setup
by Anurag Bhatia 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Hello everyone. I am working on creating a small anycasting based setup with 3-4 servers in US. Plan is to use this for DNS and later for CDN setups. I have few confusions in mind and was wondering if you guys here can put some light on them: 1. For anycasting does announcing a /24 from different ASNs (of different datacenters) makes sense or it will be an issue to have a block being announced from different ASNs and I should avoid and prefer having own router below datacenters network and eventually use one single ASN to announce the anycasting block? 2. We plan to use this anycasting based setup for DNS during initial few months. Assuming low traffic for DNS say ~10Mbps on average (on 100Mbps port) and transit from just single network (datacenter itself) - is this setup OK for simple software based BGP like Quagga or Bird? Certainly colocating routers will be slow & expensive. Does it offer any direct advantage in such simple setups? 3. IPv6! - I am looking at possibility of having support of IPv6 in anycast right from start. Can't really find a good prefix size for anycasting announcement. I can see Hurricane Electric as well as Google using whole /32 block for IPv6. So is /32 is standard? We have only one /32 allocation from ARIN and thus if using /32 seems like hard deal - we have to likely get another /32 just for anycasting? or we can use /48 without issues? Also, is /48 a good number for breaking /32 so that we can do /48 announcements from different datacenters in simple uni casting setup? I apologize for any wrong questions/logic - really new to this. Please correct me if I am wrong on any concept. Appreciate your help. Thanks. -- Anurag Bhatia anuragbhatia.com or simply - http://[2001:470:26:78f::5] if you are on IPv6 connected network! Twitter: @anurag_bhatia <https://twitter.com/#!/anurag_bhatia> Linkedin: http://linkedin.anuragbhatia.com

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Comcast IPv6 Update
by Brzozowski, John 01 Jun '12

01 Jun '12

Update from http://www.comcast6.net IPv6 Pilot Market Deployment Begins Wednesday, November 9, 2011 Comcast has started our first pilot market deployment of IPv6 in limited areas of California and Colorado. This first phase supports directly connected CPE, where a single computer is directly connected to a cable device. A subsequent phase will support home gateway devices. To learn more, check out FAQs on the pilot market deployment<http://www.comcast6.net/pilotfaq.php> and the announcement<http://blog.comcast.com/2011/11/ipv6-deployment.html> and technical details<http://blog.comcast.com/2011/11/ipv6-deployment-technology.html> on our blog. John ========================================= John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Cable e) mailto:john_brzozowski@cable.comcast.com o) 609-377-6594 m) 484-962-0060 w) http://www.comcast6.net =========================================

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OSS Systems
by Shahab Vahabzadeh 21 May '12

21 May '12

Hi there, Has anybody experience about running and OSS System in enterprise level? And do you have any idea about it? For example for an ISP who is running users more than 20K or 30K, there must be some good solutions to integrate all systems like: Radius, Billing Systems and CRM For example after searching and asking friends I have some ideas about Radius to use: radiator Is there anybody who has analyse such a systems before in his ISP? Need sharing here :) Thanks -- Regards, Shahab Vahabzadeh, Network Engineer and System Administrator PGP Key Fingerprint = 8E34 B335 D702 0CA7 5A81 C2EE 76A2 46C2 5367 BF90

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Re: Historical records of IP allocations
by Lucas Wang 21 May '12

21 May '12

We started keeping track of whois databases from March 20th this year, and our earliest data shows it belongs to a Russian company called DIMEDIA LLC. Now the latest whois shows it belongs to "OVH Telecom" located in France. On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Louis P wrote: > Hello, > Does anyone know if it's possible to get old records (AS numbers...) of an IP allocation ? > I found on RIPE these data : ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/ > But only the country and allocation date are included. > > The IP range I would like to have more information about is 109.190.0.0/17 (it was Russian before and now French). > > Thanks in advance, > Regards, > Louis P.

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FW: Force10 E Series at the edge?
by Roberts, Brent 07 May '12

07 May '12

Is anyone running an E300 Series Chassis at the internet edge with multiple Full BGP feeds? 95th percent would be about 300 meg of traffic. BGP session count would be between 2 and 4 Peers. 6k internal Prefix count as it stands right now. Alternative are welcome. Thought about the ASR1006 but I need some local switching as well. Full requirements include Full internet Peering over GigE Links. Fully Redundant Power Redundant "Supervisor/Route Processor" Would prefer a Small Chassis unit. (under 10u) Would also prefer a single unit as opposed to a two smaller units. ________________________________ This email and any attached files may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended solely for the use of the person to whom it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete it and all attachments from your computer. Progressive Solutions is not liable for any errors or omissions in the content or transmission of this email.

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time sink 42
by Randy Bush 27 Apr '12

27 Apr '12

ok, this is horribly pragmatic, but it's real. yesterday i was in the westin playing rack and stack for five hours. an horrifyingly large amount of my time was spent trying to peel apart labels made on my portable brother label tape maker, yes peeling the backing from a little label so remote hands could easily confirm a server they were going to attack. is there a trick? is there a (not expensive) different labeling machine or technique i should use? randy

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Most energy efficient (home) setup
by Jeroen van Aart 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

After reading a number of threads where people list their huge and wasteful, but undoubtedly fun (and sometimes necessary?), home setups complete with dedicated rooms and aircos I felt inclined to ask who has attempted to make a really energy efficient setup? This may be an interesting read, it uses a plugcomputer: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/11/diy_zero_energy_home_server/page2.h… Admittedly I don't have a need for a full blown home lab since I am not a network engineer, I'm more of a sysadmin/network admin/programmer kind of person... So I can make do with a somewhat minimal set up. But I *do* have tunneled IPv6 from home ;-) In my current apartment in addition to an el cheapo DSL modem that probably wastes about 10 watts and a "sometimes on" PC workstation I used to have an always on thinkpad (early 2000s model) as my main desktop system and an always on G4 system (pegasos2 in case you care) acting as a mail/web/ssh server. The thinkpad was a refurbished model and it was quite stable, up to 500 days of uptime during its last years. But the hardware slowly disintegrated and when the gfx card died I retired it. Right now my always on server is a VIA artigo 1100 pico-itx system (replacing the G4 system) and my "router/firewall/modem" is still the el cheapo DSL modem (which runs busybox by the way). I have an upgraded workstation that's "sometimes on", it has a mini itx form factor (AMD phenom2 CPU). I use debian on all systems. I haven't measured it but I think if the set up would use 30 watts continuously (only taking the always on systems into account) it'd be a lot. Of course it'll spike when I fire up the workstation. It's not extremely energy efficient but compared to some setups I read about it is. The next step would be to migrate to a plugcomputer or something similar (http://plugcomputer.org/) Any suggestions and ideas appreciated of course. :-) Thanks, Jeroen -- Earthquake Magnitude: 3.0 Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 13:57:33 UTC Location: Island of Hawaii, Hawaii Latitude: 19.4252; Longitude: -155.3207 Depth: 3.90 km

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Re: Quad-A records in Network Solutions ?
by Matt Ryanczak 06 Apr '12

06 Apr '12

On 3/28/12 11:00 PM, bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > once, years ago, Netsol -did- have a path for injecting AAAA records. It was prototype > code with the engineering team. I had records registered with them. Have since sold the domains > and they moved to other registries. But they did support it for a while. I too had AAAA with nesol years ago. It required special phone calls to special people to update. Customer support never knew what was going on regarding AAAA or IPvWhat?. I suspect all of the people there that know about these types of things have moved on. Netsol has been leaking people since their sale to web.com last year, from actual layoffs and fear of the same. ~matt

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CAIDA's 2012 IPv6 survey -- need network operators to fill out
by k claffy 04 Apr '12

04 Apr '12

[direct link to IPv6 operational deployment [plans] survey if you don't need background: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/749797/ipv6survey ] hello folks, we're trying to do some quantitative modeling of the IPv4->IPv6 transition, including the impact of IPv4 markets on likely future trajectories, but really need some empirical data to parametrize our model. with much help from many patient reviewers of the questions, we finally have a survey ready for operators to fill out. below i'll give an extremely terse description of the model just to give you an idea of why we need this granularity. there are another 10 dense pages describing the model pending peer review at NSF, which i can send to anyone interested in giving us feedback on it. but it's not necessary for responding to the survey. also note the checkbox to indicate you're amenable to further followup questions. survey will be available till 12 april 2012. (or tell us if you want to fill it out but need more time.) survey link, again: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/749797/ipv6survey thanks much, k, amogh, emile ------------------------------ Most prior work on modeling the adoption of new technologies assumed a binary decision at the organization level -- in the context of IPv6, this decision means switching completely to IPv6 or not at all. We propose to account for the fact that an organization may deploy IPv6 incrementally in its network, meaning that it will continue to have both IPv4 and IPv6 space. A key aspect of our model is that instead of a binary state per organization, we work at the granularity of devices, which are entities that need to be assigned IP addresses. We consider a device to correspond to a single instance of an IP addressing need, which typically corresponds to an interface. Though there can be multiple interfaces (``devices'') on the same computer/router, and multiple addresses (``virtual interfaces'') on a single interface, we will model each need for an independent IP address as an independent device. We define device classes based on the nature of addresses used to number those devices, e.g., public IPv4, IPv6, dual-stack-NATv4, dual-stack-public-IPv4, etc. We model the network growth requirements of each network in terms of the number of additional devices in that network that need to be configured in one of these device classes. ... (then we catalog a list of costs and incentives associated with the decision to adopt IPv6 or satisfy one's addressing needs with IPv4-based technologies. costs parameters include the costs of IPv4 addresses, NAT deployment, renumbering, and translation between IPv4 and IPv6. we will also try to model incentives such as policies and regulations.) We will then model two separate decision processes for a network, based on whether it seeks to add new devices (to expand its network, provision for new customers, deploy new services, etc.), or whether it seeks to optimize the numbering of its existing devices from among the five device classes defined previously. The latter operation may be necessary if external factors and costs have changed such that the network could substantially lower its costs by numbering its devices differently. We want to structure the model (based on feedback from opsfolk like you) to capture both initial costs as well as ongoing operational costs of supporting a given configuration of devices for a specified window following the decision. Iteration of the decision process continues for each network until we reach a state where no network has the incentive to change the numbering of its devices, which represents the equilibrium. ....

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uunet ends newsfeed/newsreader in US
by Henry Yen 03 Apr '12

03 Apr '12

uunet/vzb "will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and any content/data remaining after that date will be unrecoverably deleted". does anyone on NANOG have any thoughtful comments on this? -- Henry Yen <Henry.Yen(a)Aegis00.com> Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York 1-800-AEGIS-00 (800-234-4700)

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