October 2012 - Test - lists.nanog.org

logistics ml?
by Randy Bush 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

so is there a meeting logistics ml for attendees (as there is for ietf)? i was asked when i registered, but have seen nothing. e.g. i am scheduled to land dfw on sunday 14:00ish and want to ride share into town. randy

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[NANOG-announce] Seeking NANOG Communications Committee candidates for upcoming elections and my farewell
by Randy Epstein 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

Greetings NANOG friends and colleagues! This month, elections will take place at NANOG 56 in Dallas, TX. There are currently two open positions available on the NANOG Communications Committee for the upcoming term. Some brief information about the Committee and what we are seeking: The Communications Committee will consist of at least three members selected by the Board of Directors. Members of the Communications Committee may not serve concurrently on the Board of Directors. The chairperson of the Communications Committee will serve ex officio in a non-voting role on the Board of Directors, in order to facilitate communication between the two groups. One of the primary functions of Communications Committee is the maintenance of a community mailing list (the NANOG operators list). The Communications Committee will be responsible for the administration and minimal moderation of the list. The Board of Directors will select the new Communications Committee members after the election in October. Two positions are to be filled. The main NANOG mailing list serves an important role in the community by providing a day-to-day forum for network operators. Participating as a member of the Communications Committee gives you the opportunity to make a noticeable contribution. All candidates will be asked to complete a questionnaire about their qualifications, and to submit a Declaration of Candidacy (DoC), which is available at https://www.nanog.org/governance/elections/2012elections/2012_Declaration_of _Candidacy.docx. Communications Committee Member Responsibilities may be viewed at http://www.nanog.org/governance/CC_Member.pdf. If you have any further questions, please feel free to reach out to me directly as well. Personally, I will not be able to run again as I have now served two terms (four years) on the Committee and will be termed out. It has been a pleasure serving the members of NANOG and the Board of Directors during these last four years, from when I first started on the Mailing List Committee and watched over the transformation into what is now the Communications Committee. I'd like to thank the NANOG community for giving me this opportunity as it has certainly been an enjoyable experience. I hope to serve the community again in the future. Regards, Randy Epstein Chair, NANOG Communications Committee _______________________________________________ NANOG-announce mailing list NANOG-announce(a)mailman.nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

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Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only squat space + NAT
by Cameron Byrne 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

FYI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27324698-LTE-access-early- So much for next generation technology ... CB

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Re: Wired access to SMS?
by Richard Brown 10 Oct '12

10 Oct '12

On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Bill Herrin wrote: > What about finding someplace offsite and setting up a persistent PPP > connection with modems (of the POTS variety) between it and home base? > Put half the modems there and maybe a low power Atom server with hooks > to send alerts like "connection to home hasn't come back after X redials". > > I do something similar by having cheap DSL with a provider I don't have > any other services with to provide a outside world view of things. I > have a POTS line there too that can auto-dial back home if needed. If we're looking for belt and suspenders solutions (when you lose your primary WAN connection and the cell modems are jammed up...) You could also hitch up an analog modem to a POTS line, and then let your paging software dial your cell/home number. You won't hear anything, but the CallerID will let you know that your monitoring system is *desperately* trying to get in touch :-) Rich Brown richard.e.brown(a)dartware.com Dartware, LLC http://www.intermapper.com 66-7 Benning Street Telephone: 603-643-9600 West Lebanon, NH 03784-3407 Fax: 603-643-2289

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MPLS on 6500 VSS
by Dikkema, Michael (Business Technology) 10 Oct '12

10 Oct '12

Hi, all. I'm looking at deploying MPLS and MPLS VPN on a number of 6500 VSS (VS-S720) systems. Was wondering if there were any major issues to look out for specific to this platform. Thanks.

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IPAM - reference
by James Wininger 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

We have been using IPPlan for quite some time now and are finding that we are simply starting to outgrow it. We have been looking at several other IPAM solutions and are starting to consider a purchase. The 6connect solution looks promising. If anyone has experience with this product and would be so include to share that, it would be greatly appreciated. Please contact off list. -- Jim Wininger

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Re: [mailop] Complicated Mailinglist Setup
by Jay Ashworth 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Kulawiec" <rsk(a)gsp.org> > Any list-related traffic received on #2 will be forwarded to the MLM > and will be processed accordingly. Any list-related traffic generated > on #2 will be handed off to #1 for queueing and delivery. > > Is this what you were trying to accomplish? I predict he'll say yes. And I also think that if he's got one role-name in DNS for his actual mail server, and a separate role-name for his mail list service -- even though they're presently the same machine -- that this will be even easier; probably not requiring the special configuration at all. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra(a)baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274

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Multiple Sprint Outages?
by Eric Rosenberry 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

Looks like Sprint is having a very bad day today in the NW? Anybody able to elaborate on exactly where these fiber cuts are and exactly what is impacted? I see mention of several different places that things may be cut right now... We saw sporadic readability issues this AM until we downed our connection to Sprint. http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/10/08/cable-cut-in-midwest… http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/08/sprint-voice-data-down-in-minnesota-washin… -Eric -- *Eric Rosenberry* Sr. Infrastructure Architect // Chief Bit Plumber

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RE: IPv4 address length technical design
by Barry Shein 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

> While this is an interesting thought experiment, what problem are > you trying to solve with this proposal? (asked privately but it seems worthwhile answering publicly, bcc'd, you can id yourself if you like.) Look, as I said in the original message I was asked to speak to a group of young "hackers" at the HackerSpace in Singapore. I wanted to be interesting and thought-provoking, make them think through how this stuff works for an hour or two, encourage them to poke holes in it, etc. It was one of the audience who pointed out the potential MTU problem. What problem does it solve, potentially? 0. Despite fears expressed herein I am not single-handedly planning to convert the worldwide internet to this over the weekend. I'm going to need some help :-) 1. It eliminates the need for DNS in its generally used form. Sure, we've overloaded DNS with other functions from SPF -- in fact it was Meng Weng Wong, inventor of SPF, who graciously invited me to speak -- to whatever. But that's begging the point, there's nothing interesting here about distributed, lightweight databases other than eliminating one. Keep the DNS protocol per se for those things if you like. But given this you won't need to translate between host names and addresses which is really what DNS was invented to do. 2. It makes "addresses" more transparent to humans, particularly when you consider ipv6 addresses as typically displayed (hex.) Is this an important goal? Not sure, but it's certainly true. 3. It's a transfinite space. That just means that like Dewey Decimal etc it can be arbitrarily expanded, you can add more levels or even stick levels in between plus or minus some rules regarding SLDs/TLDs, and other rules which might or might not be imposed (see #4). But its total address space is as large as you allow a payload, there is nothing inherent in the scheme that limits the addressing other than the permutation of all acceptable Unicode glyphs I guess. But since one can also have numeric parts and the set of integers is infinite (that's tongue-in-cheek, somewhat.) 4. Also, because it's transfinite it's arbitrarily segmentable. Again, that just means you can impose any meaning you like on any substring or set of substrings. So for example host.gTLD is generally taken to be something of some significance, or host.co.ccTLD, and that sort of idea can be applied as needed, or not at all. 5. Bits is bits. I don't know how to say that more clearly. An ipv6 address is a string of 128 bits with some segmentation implications (net part, host part.) A host name is a string of bits of varying length. But it's still just ones and zeros, an integer, however you want to read it. The discussion I was responding to on NANOG involved how we got here and where might we be going. I brought up an idea I'd worked out somewhat and have even presented in a small but public forum as being a possible future to consider further. Now you can go back to your regularly scheduled Jim Fleming guffawing. -- -Barry Shein The World | bzs(a)TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo*

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IPv6 Ignorance
by Seth Mattinen 07 Oct '12

07 Oct '12

I came across these threads today; the blind ignorance towards IPv6 from some of the posters is kind of shocking. It's also pretty disappointing if these are the people providing internet access to end users. We focus our worries on the big guys like AT&T going IPv6 (which I'm sure but they're slow), but these small operators are a much bigger problem. http://forum.ubnt.com/showthread.php?p=355722 http://forum.ubnt.com/showthread.php?t=53779 ~Seth

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