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Useful URL for network operators
by Guillaume FORTAINE 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Misses, Misters, FYI : http://tools.bgp4.jp/index.php?tools%20team/tools Best Regards, Guillaume FORTAINE _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

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Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts
by Steve Bertrand 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Steve Bertrand wrote: > >> On 2010.03.30 23:42, Andrew D Kirch wrote: >> >>> I am proposing that the NANOG administration drop everything >>> originating >>> from commonly used webmail providers, >> >> I oppose this proposal. >> >> There are very legitimate (and legal) reasons why people may want to >> post to an operational list, using an address that can not tie them to >> the location or business that they are posting from. >> >> This list does not see much spam (or at least I don't). That said, let >> the list maintainers decide. > > I would much prefer if EVERYBODY used freebie email accounts as opposed to > their corporate ones, as this would make it more likely that they would > quote "correctly" and we would get less silly legal disclaimers and out of > office messages. Personally, I don't give a fsck about corporate tags and/or legal notifications. My girl is a Federally certified Health and Safety Officer and works within the Nuclear industry. Each email she sends me that crosses her corporate Domino server contains about eight lines of non-72-width crap which usually translates into twice the length of the actual message. Although she _can_ use my personal (or external, ie. freebie) email services to relay out email from within her company, it likely isn't something that she should be doing (although their internal IT policy doesn't outright prohibit it...yet, or else I'd be the first to scream at her). The disclaimers, although annoying, to me are acceptable. Some enterprise have strict guidelines on email/communication use. I would sooner see the disclaimers as opposed to not have those valuable people not post at all. > I don't use my work account for any mailing lists because it's totally > useless for that purpose. I also will participate in these mailing lists > regardless of my employer, thus I never understood why someone would want > to post from their corporate accounts. I feel that in many cases that there are very good reasons for posting from such. Aside from the fact that some people post to ops/eng/rir/tech etc lists from their corporate email address because of internal policy, in many cases, I'd think that it makes sense that many postings to lists are for work purposes directly. Almost all of mine are. Whether I send from steveb(a)eagle.ca (my work email addr), steve(a)ibctech.ca or steve(a)ipv6canada.com shouldn't matter. I recognize your name Mikael, not your email address. Regardless, disclaimers and legal fluff are easily discarded when replying ;) Steve

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BGP Update Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

BGP Update Report Interval: 11-Mar-10 -to- 18-Mar-10 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS665 99574 8.9% 1059.3 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center 2 - AS45985 23578 2.1% 5894.5 -- DAEWOOSEC Daewoo Securities Co., Ltd. 3 - AS14420 17434 1.6% 44.4 -- CORPORACION NACIONAL DE TELECOMUNICACIONES CNT S.A. 4 - AS30890 15750 1.4% 35.6 -- EVOLVA Evolva Telecom s.r.l. 5 - AS9829 13664 1.2% 27.7 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 6 - AS31055 13155 1.2% 3288.8 -- CONSULTIX-AS Consultix GmbH 7 - AS35805 12226 1.1% 20.7 -- UTG-AS United Telecom AS 8 - AS9808 10983 1.0% 24.4 -- CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile Communication Co.Ltd. 9 - AS12479 10423 0.9% 694.9 -- UNI2-AS Uni2 - Lince telecomunicaciones 10 - AS8452 9035 0.8% 18.0 -- TEDATA TEDATA 11 - AS16569 8216 0.7% 8216.0 -- ASN-CITY-OF-CALGARY - City of Calgary 12 - AS33776 8174 0.7% 29.0 -- STARCOMMS-ASN 13 - AS7738 7862 0.7% 16.5 -- Telecomunicacoes da Bahia S.A. 14 - AS26025 7195 0.7% 7195.0 -- COC - City of Calgary 15 - AS20115 7025 0.6% 8.5 -- CHARTER-NET-HKY-NC - Charter Communications 16 - AS27747 6408 0.6% 37.3 -- Telecentro S.A. 17 - AS1659 6067 0.5% 19.9 -- ERX-TANET-ASN1 Tiawan Academic Network (TANet) Information Center 18 - AS10052 5951 0.5% 2975.5 -- KNU-AS Kyungpook National Univ. 19 - AS17974 5867 0.5% 8.5 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 20 - AS27097 5815 0.5% 1453.8 -- DNIC-ASBLK-27032-27159 - DoD Network Information Center TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS16569 8216 0.7% 8216.0 -- ASN-CITY-OF-CALGARY - City of Calgary 2 - AS26025 7195 0.7% 7195.0 -- COC - City of Calgary 3 - AS45985 23578 2.1% 5894.5 -- DAEWOOSEC Daewoo Securities Co., Ltd. 4 - AS31055 13155 1.2% 3288.8 -- CONSULTIX-AS Consultix GmbH 5 - AS10052 5951 0.5% 2975.5 -- KNU-AS Kyungpook National Univ. 6 - AS27097 5815 0.5% 1453.8 -- DNIC-ASBLK-27032-27159 - DoD Network Information Center 7 - AS665 99574 8.9% 1059.3 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center 8 - AS22395 968 0.1% 968.0 -- GHCO-INTERNAP - Goldenberg Hehmeyer 9 - AS5691 2630 0.2% 876.7 -- MITRE-AS-5 - The MITRE Corporation 10 - AS12479 10423 0.9% 694.9 -- UNI2-AS Uni2 - Lince telecomunicaciones 11 - AS5554 653 0.1% 653.0 -- INTEGRA Integra Information Co. Ltd 12 - AS31496 615 0.1% 615.0 -- ATNET-AS ATNET Autonomous System 13 - AS35400 1082 0.1% 541.0 -- MFIST Interregoinal Organization Network Technologies 14 - AS45960 502 0.1% 502.0 -- YTLCOMMS-AS-AP YTL COMMUNICATIONS SDN BHD 15 - AS28052 496 0.0% 496.0 -- Arte Radiotelevisivo Argentino 16 - AS8346 2569 0.2% 428.2 -- SONATEL-AS Autonomous System 17 - AS32794 400 0.0% 400.0 -- ICFG - International Church of the Foursquare Gospel 18 - AS34875 2293 0.2% 382.2 -- YANFES OJSC "Uralsviazinform" 19 - AS18399 1409 0.1% 352.2 -- BAGAN-TRANSIT-AS Bagan Cybertech IDC & Teleport International Transit 20 - AS35291 651 0.1% 325.5 -- ICOMM-AS SC Internet Communication Systems SRL TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 62.168.199.0/24 13100 1.1% AS31055 -- CONSULTIX-AS Consultix GmbH 2 - 208.98.230.0/24 8216 0.7% AS16569 -- ASN-CITY-OF-CALGARY - City of Calgary 3 - 208.98.231.0/24 7195 0.6% AS26025 -- COC - City of Calgary 4 - 155.230.0.0/16 5927 0.5% AS10052 -- KNU-AS Kyungpook National Univ. 5 - 210.92.10.0/24 5895 0.5% AS45985 -- DAEWOOSEC Daewoo Securities Co., Ltd. 6 - 210.92.6.0/24 5895 0.5% AS45985 -- DAEWOOSEC Daewoo Securities Co., Ltd. 7 - 210.92.4.0/24 5895 0.5% AS45985 -- DAEWOOSEC Daewoo Securities Co., Ltd. 8 - 123.140.107.0/24 5893 0.5% AS45985 -- DAEWOOSEC Daewoo Securities Co., Ltd. 9 - 214.15.217.0/24 5673 0.5% AS27097 -- DNIC-ASBLK-27032-27159 - DoD Network Information Center 10 - 41.235.80.0/24 5590 0.5% AS8452 -- TEDATA TEDATA 11 - 199.114.154.0/24 3567 0.3% AS1733 -- CENTAF-SWA - 754th Electronic Systems Group 12 - 85.60.192.0/23 3060 0.3% AS12479 -- UNI2-AS Uni2 - Lince telecomunicaciones 13 - 206.184.16.0/24 2874 0.2% AS174 -- COGENT Cogent/PSI 14 - 205.101.192.0/24 2658 0.2% AS665 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center 15 - 205.109.96.0/20 2658 0.2% AS665 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center 16 - 205.109.208.0/20 2657 0.2% AS665 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center 17 - 205.109.160.0/19 2651 0.2% AS665 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center 18 - 205.110.243.0/24 2647 0.2% AS665 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center 19 - 205.101.66.0/24 2646 0.2% AS665 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center 20 - 199.121.123.0/24 2638 0.2% AS665 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center Details at http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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Collapsing device management peripherals
by Jason Lixfeld 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Right now, I've got a pull-out KVM connected to an external KVM switch that connects to the management ports on our blade centers, etc. I've also got a separate console server for our network devices with a modem for out of band. I'd love to be able to collapse these three devices into one. I've seen pull-out KVMs that have an integrated KVM switch, but I haven't seen anything that is also IP enabled to cover the console server component as well. Has anyone seen such an animal, by chance?

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Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 26, Issue 142
by Larry Sheldon 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

On 3/30/2010 08:09, Stephen Tandy wrote: > > > Sent from my WindowsÂ® phone. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nanog-request(a)nanog.org <nanog-request(a)nanog.org> > Sent: 30 March 2010 13:00 > To: nanog(a)nanog.org <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: NANOG Digest, Vol 26, Issue 142 > > Send NANOG mailing list submissions to > nanog(a)nanog.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nanog-request(a)nanog.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nanog-owner(a)nanog.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NANOG digest..." [Snip] I keep seeing these. Is there a point? > You can find clueless people everywhere. > > Jens -- Democracy: Three wolves and a sheep voting on the dinner menu. Requiescas in pace o email Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Eppure si rinfresca ICBM Targeting Information: http://tinyurl.com/4sqczs http://tinyurl.com/7tp8ml

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Disable IPv4 routing for routing-instance?
by asnoka 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hello list, Junos provice a method to disable isis ipv4 routing support like this: isis { no-ipv4-routing; } However,we want to disable ipv4 routing for an VRF like that,is there any method for us to do so? Thanks a lot.

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Hotmail/MSN/Live.com Abuse contact
by Brian Raaen 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

As I have not been contacted after filling out the web form and any mail I try and send to abuse(a)hotmail.com or postmaster(a)live.com is being blocked can someone in the Abuse department contact me at abuse(a)rhemasound.org Thanks. Sorry about making noise on the list but all other attempts have failed. -- ---------------------- Brian Raaen Network Engineer

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Internet Society IPv6 Workshop
by Phil Roberts 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

The Internet Society is hosting an IPv6 Deployment Day on April 22 in Seattle, Washington. The meeting is intended for operators who have deployed, are deploying, or are planning to deploy IPv6 in their networks. The proposed topics include business related issues for IPv6 deployment, discussion of pitfalls in IPv6 deployment, and specific technical issues due to IPv6 deployment that potentially affect the whole Internet. This is an open meeting and all are welcome, but space is limited so you will need to register: https://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/registration/?id=7ce20e4c88b7e328. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me, Phil Roberts (roberts(a)isoc.org) or Mat Ford (ford(a)isoc.org)

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IP4 Space
by Thomas Magill 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

So to start off, I'm new to following this list so if these points have already been beaten into the ground, feel free to tell me to shut up. So two things I wonder about the preservation of current IP4 space and delaying IP6 are: 1. Why don't providers use /31 addresses for P2P links? This works fine per rfc 3021 but nobody seems to believe it or use it. Are there any major manufacturers out there that do not support it? 2. Longer than /24 prefixes in global BGP table. The most obvious answer is that some hardware may not handle it... How is that hardware going to handle an IP6 table then? I have had several occasions where functionally I needed to advertise for different sites but only needed 20-30 addresses which is a complete waste of a /24. How hard would it be to start allowing /25s when compared to trying to roll out IP6? The intention of this isn't to start a "what's good or bad about IP6 and what still doesn't work" debate.. I'm just generally curious about how these two seem like easy ways to make more efficient use of what we have already. Thomas Magill Network Engineer Office: (858) 909-3777 Cell: (858) 869-9685 mailto:tmagill@providecommerce.com <mailto:tmagill@providecommerce.com> provide-commerce 4840 Eastgate Mall San Diego, CA 92121 ProFlowers <http://www.proflowers.com/> | redENVELOPE <http://www.redenvelope.com/> | Cherry Moon Farms <http://www.cherrymoonfarms.com/> | Shari's Berries <http://www.berries.com/>

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BER performance on fiber links
by A.B. Jr. 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hi all, What is the bit error rate that can be expected from a modern hi capacity mostly optical point to point circuits ? 10 E-7 would be too conservative or too agressive? What if the "circuit" is in fact Ethernet LAN to LAN transport? How many frames can one expect to be discarded due to link errors? Thank you in advance. A.B.

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