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Wholesale DSL implementation in Canada
by James Smith 13 Dec '10

13 Dec '10

We're looking at implementing a DSL private network in various provinces in Canada. There seems to be two main ways to do this: build the network yourself by creating relationships with the local DSL providers (Bell, Telus, MTS, etc) ; or build the network using a third-party that already has a DSL infrastructure in place. The third-party DSL infrastructure is a sure thing, since they've been doing it for a while. However, we're looking at a large number of locations so the cost of implementing the DSL internally seems to be more compelling. Not having implemented a DSL infrastructure before, I'm wondering if anyone on NANOG has any advice on this? What technical or political issues might we run into? What is the best choice of hardware? (Juniper or Cisco)? Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd prefer. James

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Re: LOIC tool used in the "Anonymous" attacks
by andrew.wallace 13 Dec '10

13 Dec '10

I was reading about this- yeah really "anonymous". http://praetorianprefect.com/archives/2010/12/anonymous-releases-very-unano… Also: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/11/anonymous-isnt-loic.html Andrew From: Stefan Fouant <sfouant(a)shortestpathfirst.net> To: 'Marshall Eubanks' <tme(a)multicasttech.com>; 'North American Network Operators Group' <nanog(a)nanog.org> Cc: Sent: Saturday, 11 December 2010, 17:34:20 Subject: RE: LOIC tool used in the "Anonymous" attacks I think the skill level of these guys is clearly evidenced by one of the members who forgot to remove the metadata from their most recent "press release". Stefan

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Новое сообщение
by Vovan 13 Dec '10

13 Dec '10

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Pointer for documentation on actually delivering IPv6
by Mark Radabaugh 13 Dec '10

13 Dec '10

Probably a case of something being blindingly obvious but... I have seen plenty of information on IPv6 from a internal network standpoint. I have seen very little with respect to how a ISP is supposed to handle routing to residential consumer networks. I have seen suggestions of running RIPng. The thought of letting Belkin routers (if you can call them that) into the routing table scares me no end. Is this way easier than I think it is? Did somebody already write the book that I can't find? -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex mark(a)amplex.net 419.837.5015

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Re: Amazon.co.uk, and most of Amazon Europe, appears to be down.
by andrew.wallace 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

Thenextweb have been quick to push out speculation - http://thenextweb.com/uk/2010/12/12/amazon-co-uk-and-de-are-down-is-anonymo… Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From:Wil Schultz <wschultz(a)bsdboy.com> To:North American Network Operators Group <nanog(a)nanog.org> Cc: Sent:Sunday, 12 December 2010, 21:33:29 Subject:Amazon.co.uk, and most of Amazon Europe, appears to be down. Unknown if this is due to the recent doings of late, but it appears as if Amazon Europe appears to be down. The anon's are definitely trying to cause disruptions, I find it difficult to believe that they are the actual cause. Time will tell. -wil

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Amazon.co.uk, and most of Amazon Europe, appears to be down.
by Wil Schultz 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

Unknown if this is due to the recent doings of late, but it appears as if Amazon Europe appears to be down. The anon's are definitely trying to cause disruptions, I find it difficult to believe that they are the actual cause. Time will tell. -wil

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cablevision?
by Ben C. 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

Hi all, Does anybody know anything about a large cablevision outage this morning? Their support phone lines are busy signals... Thanks Ben

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Prepare for Openleaks and other copycats
by Hank Nussbacher 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/wikileaks-splits-as-volunt… -Hank

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Re: Mastercard problems
by andrew.wallace 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

I would say the attack falls under the jurisdiction of the US secret service since this is an attack on the financial system. "Today the agency's primary investigative mission is to safeguard the payment and financial systems of the United States." --- secretservice.gov Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From:Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists(a)gmail.com> To:Jack Bates <jbates(a)brightok.net> Cc:"nanog(a)nanog.org" <nanog(a)nanog.org> Sent:Wednesday, 8 December 2010, 18:47:49 Subject:Re: Mastercard problems I know that the folks involved on the MC side already have this data, and that the fbi is interested in it. -chris

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Re: LOIC tool used in the "Anonymous" attacks
by andrew.wallace 11 Dec '10

11 Dec '10

Like I said the other day on Cnet comments section, December 10, 2010 3:31 PM PST. "It is extremely easy to find out who everyone is, because the "anonymous" is decentralised and easy to infiltrate and manipulate." Andrew From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell(a)ufp.org> To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog(a)nanog.org> Cc: Sent: Saturday, 11 December 2010, 21:21:29 Subject: Re: LOIC tool used in the "Anonymous" attacks Perhaps the authors of the tool would rather keep the finite law enforcement busy rounding up clueless highschool kids who install this tool. In that sense it's both a network packet DDOS, and a law enforcement attacker DDOS. Brilliant in a way.

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