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multicast nightmare #42
by Philip Lavine 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Please explain how this would be possible: 1 sender 1 mcast group 1 receiver ---------------- = no data loss 1 sender 1 mcast group 2+ receivers on same VLAN and physical segment -------------------- = data loss

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Contact for netsolmail.net / networksolutionsemail.com
by Denis F. 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Hello and sorry to bother you with my OT query. I'm looking for a technical contact at netsolmail.net or networksolutionsemail.com to troubleshoot an issue. It seems their SMTP servers can't join mine and I can't see what's wrong on my side. Thank you very much in advance, Denis

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Seeking old NANOG list mbox archives
by Fyodor 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Hi All. I run a web archive for network security mailing lists at http://seclists.org and have decided to add NANOG. I find that this list often delves into security issues, including botnets, malware, DoS attacks, ways to contain them, etc. So I've added a page with the monthly archives since 2003, excerpts of the latest posts, RSS feeds, searching, etc: http://seclists.org/nanog/ The problem is that I have only been a list member for 6 years, while the NANOG list has a rich history going back to 1994 ('92 if you count the NSFNET Regional-Techs list it was formed from). I'd love to make that whole history available. If anyone has archives going back further than mine, please let me know. Traditional Unix-style mbox files are preferred, but I'll take whatever I can get and massage them into mboxes. Thanks, Fyodor

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blackholes.us RBL is defunct and wildcarded
by Mark Jeftovic 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

This is somewhat of a stability issue as I'm seeing a lot of remote mailservers affected. The blackholes.us series of RBLs (geotargetted IP space by country) is no more, hasn't been for awhile. It has now been wildcarded and answers positive to all queries. http://www.circleid.com/posts/20091013_unwelcome_afterlife_for_a_long_dead_… Sorry if this is known, I checked the archives and didn't see anything. -mark -- Mark Jeftovic <markjr(a)easydns.com> / Jabber: markjr(a)easysip.com Founder / President, easyDNS Technologies Inc. Company Website: http://www.easyDNS.com Better Living Through Private World Domination: http://PrivateWorld.com

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[NANOG-announce] A few notes on recent events and items of interest for NANOG 47
by David Meyer 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Folks, A few notes on recent events and items of interest: (i). The NANOG Steering Committee approved the 2009 Election Ballot. It will be posted on Sunday, October 18 by noon when the polls open. (ii). Charter amendments http://nanog.org/governance/elections/2009elections/2009charteramend.php (iii). SC Candidates http://nanog.org/governance/elections/2009elections/2009sc_candidates.php (iv). Current PC Candidates http://nanog.org/governance/elections/2009elections/2009pc_candidates.php (v). Important dates - Voting for the 2009/2010 NANOG SC opens: 1200 EDT 10-18-09 - Voting for the 2009/2010 NANOG SC closes: 0915 EDT 10-21-09 - PC Candidate Information posted/nominations close: 10-19-09 The NANOG 47 agenda has been posted, so please check that out. We have a great line-up of topics and presenters. We hope to see many more in Dearborn. For those who are considering a NANOG Sponsorship, we encourage you to contact marketing(a)merit.edu. The community really appreciates the support and vendors do have a wonderful opportunity to showcase their products. Thanks, and see you all in Dearborn. Dave _______________________________________________ NANOG-announce mailing list NANOG-announce(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

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Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering
by Deepak Jain 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Perhaps someone from HE can re-confirm their open peering policy for us? If they aren't (open) anymore, I'm impressed by the bravado... Deepak ----- Original Message ----- From: Marco Hogewoning <marcoh(a)marcoh.net> To: Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick(a)ianai.net> Cc: NANOG list <nanog(a)nanog.org> Sent: Mon Oct 12 12:15:34 2009 Subject: Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering On Oct 12, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > It is sad to see that networks which used to care about > connectivity, peering, latency, etc., when they are small change > their mind when they are "big". The most recent example is Cogent, > an open peer who decided to turn down peers when they reached > transit free status. > > I never thought HE would be one of those networks. Do we have any proof it's HE rejecting peering or is it that Cogent en Telia alike that are to proud to ask and think they can have a piece of the pie as they did with v4 ? MarcoH

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IPv6 in the ARIN region
by Seth Mattinen 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

New thread: who will route the full IPv6 table? So far I'm seeing PI /48's out of 2620:0:/23 from: NTT, 2914 AT&T, 7018 Sprint, 1239 and 6175 Hurricane, 6939 Level 3, 3356 Global Crossing, 3549 Qwest, 209 Did I miss anyone? Qwest only carries one route (out of 4 total) though, don't know if that's an exception or they only have one ARIN PI customer. ~Seth

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.se disappeared?
by Ben White 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Does anyone else also see trouble reaching .se domains at the moment? -- Ben

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AS3.196 [91.213.29.0/24] IM-AS Info-Media Ltd
by Paul Ferguson 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm a bit confused (nothing really new here) with this BGP announcement, but following up on some cyber crime activity I stumbled on this: [Querying v4.whois.cymru.com] [v4.whois.cymru.com] AS | IP | AS Name 23456 | 91.213.29.250 | -Reserved AS- Is this legitimate? route-views2.routeviews.org> sho ip bgp 91.213.29.250 BGP routing table entry for 91.213.29.0/24 Paths: (42 available, best #33, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Not advertised to any peer 6939 9002 40965 196804 216.218.252.164 from 216.218.252.164 (216.218.252.164) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Mon Oct 12 17:18:08 2009 13030 9002 40965 196804 213.144.128.203 from 213.144.128.203 (213.144.128.203) Origin IGP, metric 1, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 13030:1 13030:1016 Last update: Mon Oct 12 13:10:14 2009 14608 4323 9002 40965 196804 209.161.175.4 from 209.161.175.4 (209.161.175.4) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: no-export Last update: Mon Oct 12 08:06:19 2009 286 9002 40965 196804 134.222.87.3 from 134.222.87.3 (134.222.85.108) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 286:18 286:19 286:28 286:29 286:800 286:888 286:3044 286:4019 Last update: Sat Oct 10 22:44:50 2009 1299 3549 9002 40965 196804 213.248.83.252 from 213.248.83.252 (213.248.83.252) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 15:43:18 2009 3303 9002 40965 196804 164.128.32.11 from 164.128.32.11 (164.128.32.11) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 1120:2 3303:1004 3303:1006 3303:3056 Last update: Thu Oct 8 15:06:42 2009 2905 702 9002 40965 196804 196.7.106.245 from 196.7.106.245 (196.7.106.245) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 15:42:42 2009 31500 3267 9002 40965 196804 95.140.80.254 from 95.140.80.254 (1.0.0.10) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Tue Oct 13 00:33:35 2009 1221 4637 3549 9002 40965 196804 203.62.252.186 from 203.62.252.186 (203.62.252.186) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:32 2009 5056 1239 3549 9002 40965 196804 167.142.3.6 from 167.142.3.6 (167.142.225.101) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 15:10:31 2009 7660 2516 3549 9002 40965 196804 203.181.248.168 from 203.181.248.168 (203.181.248.168) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 2516:1030 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:44:01 2009 6762 3549 9002 40965 196804 195.22.216.188 from 195.22.216.188 (195.22.216.188) Origin IGP, metric 100, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 6762:31 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:28 2009 16150 9002 40965 196804 217.75.96.60 from 217.75.96.60 (217.75.96.60) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 16150:63392 16150:65215 16150:65320 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:26 2009 6453 3549 9002 40965 196804 207.45.223.244 from 207.45.223.244 (66.110.0.124) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:25 2009 2152 11164 9002 40965 196804 137.164.16.12 from 137.164.16.12 (137.164.16.196) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 2152:65299 2152:65506 11164:1130 11164:7880 Last update: Sat Oct 10 13:52:50 2009 6453 3549 9002 40965 196804 195.219.96.239 from 195.219.96.239 (195.219.96.239) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:22 2009 3277 3267 9002 40965 196804 194.85.4.55 from 194.85.4.55 (194.85.4.16) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 3277:3267 3277:65321 3277:65323 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:51 2009 852 3561 9002 40965 196804 154.11.98.225 from 154.11.98.225 (154.11.98.225) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 852:180 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:21 2009 3356 9002 40965 40965 196804 4.69.184.193 from 4.69.184.193 (4.68.3.50) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 3356:2 3356:22 3356:100 3356:123 3356:507 3356:2076 65000:0 Last update: Tue Oct 13 06:09:59 2009 701 3549 9002 40965 196804 157.130.10.233 from 157.130.10.233 (137.39.3.60) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:48 2009 8492 9002 40965 196804 85.114.0.217 from 85.114.0.217 (85.114.0.2) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 8492:1101 9002:0 9002:64677 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:16 2009 5413 9002 40965 196804 62.72.136.2 from 62.72.136.2 (62.72.136.2) Origin IGP, metric 47, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:15 2009 1239 3549 9002 40965 196804 144.228.241.130 from 144.228.241.130 (144.228.241.130) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:45 2009 286 9002 40965 196804 134.222.87.1 from 134.222.87.1 (134.222.86.1) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 286:18 286:19 286:28 286:29 286:800 286:888 286:3044 286:4019 Last update: Sat Oct 10 22:44:29 2009 6539 9002 40965 196804 216.18.31.102 from 216.18.31.102 (216.18.31.102) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:12 2009 3130 2914 3549 9002 40965 196804 147.28.7.1 from 147.28.7.1 (147.28.7.1) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 2914:420 2914:2000 2914:3000 3130:380 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:11 2009 11686 11164 9002 40965 196804 96.4.0.55 from 96.4.0.55 (96.4.0.55) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Sat Oct 10 13:53:11 2009 1668 3549 9002 40965 196804 66.185.128.1 from 66.185.128.1 (66.185.128.3) Origin IGP, metric 502, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:36 2009 3549 9002 40965 196804 67.17.82.114 from 67.17.82.114 (67.17.82.114) Origin IGP, metric 14124, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Fri Oct 9 06:56:29 2009 3130 1239 3549 9002 40965 196804 147.28.7.2 from 147.28.7.2 (147.28.7.2) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 3130:370 3130:380 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:21 2009 2914 3549 9002 40965 196804 129.250.0.11 from 129.250.0.11 (129.250.0.51) Origin IGP, metric 10, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 2914:420 2914:2000 2914:3000 65504:3549 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:21 2009 2914 3549 9002 40965 196804 129.250.0.171 from 129.250.0.171 (129.250.0.79) Origin IGP, metric 5, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 2914:420 2914:2000 2914:3000 65504:3549 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:23 2009 2497 9002 40965 196804 202.232.0.3 from 202.232.0.3 (58.138.96.149) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:02 2009 852 3561 9002 40965 196804 154.11.11.113 from 154.11.11.113 (154.11.11.113) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 852:180 Last update: Sun Oct 11 01:25:14 2009 3257 3549 9002 40965 196804 89.149.178.10 from 89.149.178.10 (213.200.87.91) Origin IGP, metric 10, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 3257:8012 3257:30070 3257:50001 3257:54900 3257:54901 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:09 2009 7018 3549 9002 40965 196804 12.0.1.63 from 12.0.1.63 (12.0.1.63) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 7018:5000 Last update: Thu Oct 8 15:14:46 2009 13237 9002 40965 196804 81.209.156.1 from 81.209.156.1 (81.209.156.1) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 13237:40044 13237:46441 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:42:58 2009 8001 9002 40965 196804 209.123.12.51 from 209.123.12.51 (209.123.12.51) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 8001:2000 8001:2001 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:42:58 2009 3549 9002 40965 196804 208.51.134.246 from 208.51.134.246 (67.17.80.153) Origin IGP, metric 2633, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 3549:350 3549:4721 3549:31276 Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:42:58 2009 3561 9002 40965 196804 206.24.210.102 from 206.24.210.102 (206.24.210.102) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:42:58 2009 293 9002 40965 196804 198.129.33.85 from 198.129.33.85 (134.55.200.25) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 293:14 Last update: Sat Oct 10 19:41:35 2009 812 3549 9002 40965 196804 64.71.255.61 from 64.71.255.61 (64.71.255.61) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external Last update: Thu Oct 8 14:43:56 2009 route-views2.routeviews.org> See also: http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=196804 There's been some major criminal activity in this prefix and I was just following up on some research... http://www.malwareurl.com/search.php?domain=&s=91.213.29&match=0&rp=200&url s=on&redirs=on&ip=on&reverse=on&as=on Thanks, - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFK1CD9q1pz9mNUZTMRAlfUAJ9u05ha1WP1RBnpW9ZpI5l5BLNERgCg8htQ UTeIoSWYUG8rBOTFltiWn9M= =1hHh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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APRICOT 2010 Call for Papers
by Jonny Martin 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

[Apologies for duplicates] Asia Pacific Regional Internet Conference on Operational Technologies (APRICOT) 23 February - 5 March 2010, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia http://www.apricot2010.net CALL FOR PAPERS =============== The APRICOT 2010 Programme Committee is now seeking contributions for Presentations and Tutorials for APRICOT 2010. We are looking for people and proposals that would: - Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic; and/or - Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker; and/or - Convene and chair a Birds of a Feather (BOF) session. Please submit proposals on-line at http://submission.apricot.net/paper/user/login.php?event=22 CONFERENCE MILESTONES --------------------- Call for Papers Opens: 12 October 2009 First Deadline for Submissions: 30 November 2009 First Draft Programme Published: 7 December 2009 Final Deadline for Submissions: 14 February 2010 Final Programme Published: 15 February 2010 Final Slides Received: 19 February 2010 PROGRAM MATERIAL ---------------- The APRICOT Programme is organised in three parts, including workshops, tutorials and the conference. The APNIC Policy SIG and Annual Members Meeting will be held during the APRICOT conference. Topics for tutorials and conference would include amongst others relevant to Internet Operations and Technologies: - IPv4 / IPv6 Routing and operations - IPv4 address runout / IPv6 deployment and transition technologies - Backbone operations - ISP and Carrier services - Network security issues (NSP-SEC, DDoS Anti-Spam, Anti-Malware) - Peering / IXPs - Internet policy (Security, Regulation, Content Management, Addressing, etc) - Access and Transport Technologies, including broadband deployment, Cable/DSL, wireless, WiMax, metro ethernet, fiber network, MPLS - Content & Service Delivery (Multicast, Voice, Video, "telepresence", Gaming) CFP SUBMISSION -------------- Draft slides for both tutorials and conference sessions MUST be provided with CfP submissions otherwise the Programme Committee will be unable to review the submission. For work in progress, the most current information available at time of submission is acceptable. Final slides are to be provided by the specified deadline for publication on the APRICOT website. While the majority of speaking slots will be filled by the first submission deadline, a limited number of slots may be available up to the final submission deadline for presentations that are exceptionally timely, important, or of critical operational importance. Please submit on-line at http://submission.apricot.net/paper/user/login.php?event=22 Any questions or concerns should be addressed to the Programme Committee by e-mail. We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals. Jonny Martin & Philip Smith Co-Chairs, APRICOT Programme Committee program(a)apricot.net

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