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Live.com admin
by Childs, Aaron 29 Sep '08

29 Sep '08

If there is an admin/postmaster for live.com on this list could you please contact me off-list? Thank you, Aaron ------------- Aaron Childs Assistant Director, Networking Westfield State College http://www.wsc.ma.edu/it/ "I would rather write 10,000 notes than one letter of the alphabet." -- Beethoven

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the Intercage mess
by hobbit＠avian.org 29 Sep '08

29 Sep '08

While it's good to see some community effort going toward slapping a lid on misbehaving sources, how about a little consistency in the bigger picture? Consider this sort of scenario: An ISP allows its infrastructure to emit spam and host compromised machines to harbor malware and facilitate crime and botnets. Its abuse mailbox is a black hole that is provably ignored. All reasonable efforts to get the problem fixed fail. Network operators band together and deroute the ISP's blocks, forcing them to either clean up their act or find something else to do with their time. Internet death penalty, simple enough. If this happened to some of the other major sources of crap that I'm thinking of, it would make the freaking NATIONAL NEWS. Where's the BACKBONE to go after the real high-volume sources, rather than continuing to kick sand in the face of some podunk little guy who can no longer defend himself? _H*

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Routing issue between ICE and Level3
by Ken Gilmour 28 Sep '08

28 Sep '08

Good morning, Is there anyone on this list who works for ICE in Costa Rica? We are encountering some routing issues between you and Level 3 and Packet Exchange. Level3 ticket number is available on request. Please contact me off list. ¿Hay alguien en esta lista, que trabaja para ICE en Costa Rica? Estamos tropezando con algunos problemas de enrutamiento entre usted y Level3 y Packet Exchange. Level3 número de billete está disponible a petición. Gracias! Thanks and regards, Ken

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Estonian Cyber Security Strategy document -- now available online
by Gadi Evron 27 Sep '08

27 Sep '08

Hello. The Estonian cyber security strategy document is now available online. I must say once again the concept of a national cyber security stance is quite interesting. I decided to send a message to NANOG as the "fields of activity" part of the document clearly mentions ISPs in relation to national security and infrastructure: " 12 The growing number of Internet services means that the dependence of our daily activities and lifestyle on the security and proper functioning of information technology increases incessantly. The Internet is an important element of Estonia's critical information infrastructure: it is used daily by the majority of Estonian enterprises and state agencies as well as by more than half the population. The key components of Estoniaâs critical information infrastructure, which constitute the IT infrastructure used by enterprises and agencies in the provision of e- services, include: Internet service providers, the name servers of the state, Estonia's root domain, network nodes, service servers and the firewalls of public and private organisations. The seamless operation of this infrastructure is vital to the daily functioning of the Estonian economy." Those who wish to download the document: http://www.mod.gov.ee/?op=body&id=518 My contact there specified she'd be happy to answer any questions. To avoid spam of her inbox, email me for her address. Gadi Evron.

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Re: rackmount managed PDUs
by Henry Linneweh 27 Sep '08

27 Sep '08

Here is my contribution to the PDU/UPS list, Eaton has long been in this business http://www.powerware.com/UPS/Products.asp#large -henry ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul Stewart <pstewart(a)nexicomgroup.net> To: Andrew D Kirch <trelane(a)trelane.net> Cc: nanog(a)nanog.org Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:45:53 AM Subject: RE: rackmount managed PDUs We have a lot of APC managed power bars (zero U vertical, and 19" 1U rackmount) and they work great. We SNMP manage them and access them via web - they just work, and work well for our needs. Tripplite we've had issues with over time, especially their UPS units (SNMP sucks on them). Hope this helps a bit.. Take care, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Andrew D Kirch [mailto:trelane@trelane.net] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:41 PM Cc: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: Re: rackmount managed PDUs http://www.webpowerswitch.com/ I've used these quite a bit. Depending on the model you can get per port or per zone power management, and it sends alerts if it's not in the state it's supposed to be, and some of them can auto kickover things like routers if they suddenly cant route (might be dangerous, I don't use this one except at the CPE) Andrew Justin M. Streiner wrote: > As much as I hate to tear people away from the Intercage/Atrivo > debacle and semi-tangential rants, I'll take one for the team and do > it :) > > I have an opportunity coming up to rebuild an existing machine room > space to an extent. It's not a total gut-and-refit, but I'll at least > get to put in some new infrastructure. That said, I'd be interested > in hearing about peoples' experiences with various rackmountable > managed PDUs. > > I have some Tripp Lite PDUMH30NETs that work well and are reasonably > priced, but they have a few quirks (no RS-232 console port, web > interface seems to be a little shaky with Firefox, etc) that would > become more annoying when scaled up to several rows of new rack > footprints. I'm also open to using managed vertically mounted PDUs. > The plan is for each footprint to have "A" and B" feeds, so two > PDUMH30NETs would take up 4U per footprint, which is a bit much... > > I don't need to worry about distributing DC power - just AC. > > This site will be lights-out most of the time, so robust remote > management capabilities are a must. > > Any thoughts/insight are greatly appreciated. > > jms > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and contains confidential and/or privileged material. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and then destroy this transmission, including all attachments, without copying, distributing or disclosing same. Thank you."

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high latency ds3 issue on unloaded line
by mike 27 Sep '08

27 Sep '08

Hello, I have a ds3 from qwest which has daily issues with insane point-to-point latencies sometimes exceeding 1000ms for hours on end, and which suddenly disappear, and does not appear to correspond with actual measured link utilization (less than 20mbps most days). To make a long investigation short, the problem comes on during the day and then lets up late in the evening. I have tested and examined everything at the ip layer and no it's not high utilization, an ACL, router cpu or bad hardware, no line errors or other issues visible from interface or controller stats. yes I have flushed all hardware, and I have a 7204vxr/npe-400 with this single ds3. The only clue seems to be millions of 'output drops' from qwest's side. And at night I can hit popular ftp mirrors from a directly attached server and observe my interface reporting about %100 utilization combined with my users and customers, so yeah it really is a full line rate ds3. And historically Mrtg always shows around 20mbps or less utilization and it's only smokeping that goes off, usually in the afternoon when the point to point latencies between my router and qwest start heading north, and consistently at that. I also have another in house tool that takes 30 second snapshots of my ds3 interface in order to catch short bursts that would be smoothed out with mrtg's 5 minute average, but during these high latency times there aren't any spikes noted. And for added confusion (or fun!), the latency can start at any utilization level - I've observed it while we were pulling just 12mbps, and I have not had it while we were doing 34mbps, only the time of day seems to be the common factor. Qwest has not been able to identify the issue, only note that - yeah, this really is happening when there is otherwise no real load on the line - and I am certain we have done everything to rule out the ip layer. They have put in a 'request' to move me to another router, but I am not hopeful of a resolution that way as the router we're currently on doesn't appear otherwise to have the problem with any other subscriber. What I want to know, is it possible that the underlaying atm/sonet that carries my ds3 from my facility is somehow oversubscribed or misconfigured? We have an OC12 fiber entrance and this is the only circuit provisioned on it, and in our small tiny town the only other user on the ring with us is comcast (according to the att network engineer who installed this). I don't know enough about atm/sonet to imagine conditions that would cause the issues I am seeing here , but every ip layer tool I have only ever tells me there isn't an ip issue here. I can issue ping from my router directly to the attached qwest router and get > 1000ms and then other times (out of the problem window), I am getting 4ms. If anyone has laughs or beers to offer me, send 'em on cuz I could use both right about now.... Mike-

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RE: high latency ds3 issue on unloaded line
by prue 26 Sep '08

26 Sep '08

I am wondering if the packets might be MD5 packets addressed to your router. They might be small with no valid content but your router gets busy validating the MD5 sum for each packet before the router then drops the packet. That keeps the router busy doing nothing useful. Did you check your CPU utilization during the high latency periods then check to see which process is consuming the CPU cycles if it does look high? Walt

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L3 route flapping
by Justin Shore 26 Sep '08

26 Sep '08

Is anyone else seeing 72.237.248.0/22 flapping? As of about 10 minutes ago Oregon-IX reported that it had flapped 8 times in 50 minutes. We have a production phone system on that network that's going crazy. Thanks Justin

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Weekly Routing Table Report
by Routing Analysis Role Account 26 Sep '08

26 Sep '08

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfs(a)cisco.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 27 Sep, 2008 Report Website: http://thyme.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 269646 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 130166 Deaggregation factor: 2.07 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 131386 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 29358 Prefixes per ASN: 9.18 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 25526 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 12442 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 3832 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 87 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 3.6 Max AS path length visible: 26 Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 3816) 15 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 561 Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 205 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 60 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 9 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 750 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 1908123392 Equivalent to 113 /8s, 187 /16s and 167 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 51.5 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 62.5 Percentage of available address space allocated: 82.3 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 73.6 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 132238 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 62392 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 23007 APNIC Deaggregation factor: 2.71 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 59284 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 26672 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 3394 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 17.47 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 911 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 540 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 3.5 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 19 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 377913312 Equivalent to 22 /8s, 134 /16s and 127 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 80.4 APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079 APNIC Address Blocks 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 122559 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 64697 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 1.89 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 91822 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 35181 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 12484 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 7.36 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 4833 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1194 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 3.3 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 364411872 Equivalent to 21 /8s, 184 /16s and 123 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 74.9 ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 (pre-ERX allocations) 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647, 29696-30719, 31744-33791 35840-36863, 39936-40959, 46080-47103 ARIN Address Blocks 24/8, 63/8, 64/8, 65/8, 66/8, 67/8, 68/8, 69/8, 70/8, 71/8, 72/8, 73/8, 74/8, 75/8, 76/8, 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8, 173/8, 174/8, 199/8, 204/8, 205/8, 206/8, 207/8, 208/8, 209/8, 216/8, RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 58577 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 35374 RIPE Deaggregation factor: 1.66 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 53728 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 35985 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 11935 RIPE Prefixes per ASN: 4.50 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 6284 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1823 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 4.0 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 26 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 373446752 Equivalent to 22 /8s, 66 /16s and 88 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 85.6 RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 (pre-ERX allocations) 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-35839, 38912-39935 40960-45055, 47104-49151 RIPE Address Blocks 62/8, 77/8, 78/8, 79/8, 80/8, 81/8, 82/8, 83/8, 84/8, 85/8, 86/8, 87/8, 88/8, 89/8, 90/8, 91/8, 92/8, 93/8, 94/8, 95/8, 193/8, 194/8, 195/8, 212/8, 213/8, 217/8, LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 21455 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 5370 LACNIC Deaggregation factor: 4.00 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 19570 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 11038 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1002 LACNIC Prefixes per ASN: 19.53 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 330 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 170 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.1 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 17 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 56803328 Equivalent to 3 /8s, 98 /16s and 192 /24s Percentage of available LACNIC address space announced: 56.4 LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671, plus ERX transfers LACNIC Address Blocks 186/8, 187/8, 189/8, 190/8, 200/8, 201/8, AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 4103 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 1272 AfriNIC Deaggregation factor: 3.23 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 4412 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 2035 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 260 AfriNIC Prefixes per ASN: 16.97 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 84 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 53 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 3.9 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 13 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 12755200 Equivalent to 0 /8s, 194 /16s and 161 /24s Percentage of available AfriNIC address space announced: 38.0 AfriNIC AS Blocks 36864-37887 & ERX transfers AfriNIC Address Blocks 41/8, 196/8, APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 4755 1639 535 179 TATA Communications formerly 17488 1392 94 101 Hathway IP Over Cable Interne 9583 1109 86 475 Sify Limited 4766 876 6407 359 Korea Telecom (KIX) 4134 839 13665 343 CHINANET-BACKBONE 23577 811 34 691 Korea Telecom (ATM-MPLS) 18101 776 161 62 Reliance Infocom Ltd Internet 4780 717 353 61 Digital United Inc. 9498 679 295 56 BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 4808 626 1156 138 CNCGROUP IP network: China169 Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-APNIC ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 6389 4293 3416 339 bellsouth.net, inc. 209 2942 4017 621 Qwest 6298 1997 318 731 Cox Communicatons 20115 1682 1421 712 Charter Communications 1785 1663 717 154 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 2386 1551 691 894 AT&T Data Communications Serv 4323 1519 1067 369 Time Warner Telecom 7018 1408 5794 978 AT&T WorldNet Services 11492 1212 152 11 Cable One 6478 1188 241 189 AT&T Worldnet Services Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-ARIN RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 3292 423 1777 378 TDC Tele Danmark 3301 330 1428 301 TeliaNet Sweden 30890 330 87 175 SC Kappa Invexim SRL 3215 328 2756 107 France Telecom Transpac 3320 324 7063 273 Deutsche Telekom AG 8866 321 79 22 Bulgarian Telecommunication C 8452 316 188 11 TEDATA 5462 299 794 26 Telewest Broadband 8551 287 270 37 Bezeq International 680 275 2047 265 DFN-IP service G-WiN Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-RIPE LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8151 1412 2847 223 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 11830 668 299 9 Instituto Costarricense de El 22047 564 270 14 VTR PUNTO NET S.A. 7303 492 241 70 Telecom Argentina Stet-France 10620 433 106 62 TVCABLE BOGOTA 16814 426 27 10 NSS, S.A. 6471 420 85 48 ENTEL CHILE S.A. 11172 408 118 71 Servicios Alestra S.A de C.V 28573 351 444 22 NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A 14117 343 23 9 Telefonica del Sur S.A. Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-LACNIC AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 24863 543 71 41 LINKdotNET AS number 20858 401 34 3 EgyNet 3741 265 855 223 The Internet Solution 2018 232 215 139 Tertiary Education Network 6713 143 135 11 Itissalat Al-MAGHRIB 5536 120 8 17 Internet Egypt Network 5713 119 555 69 Telkom SA Ltd 33776 116 6 3 Starcomms Nigeria Limited 29571 107 13 8 Ci Telecom Autonomous system 33783 91 10 9 EEPAD TISP TELECOM & INTERNET Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-AFRINIC Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 6389 4293 3416 339 bellsouth.net, inc. 209 2942 4017 621 Qwest 6298 1997 318 731 Cox Communicatons 20115 1682 1421 712 Charter Communications 1785 1663 717 154 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 4755 1639 535 179 TATA Communications formerly 2386 1551 691 894 AT&T Data Communications Serv 4323 1519 1067 369 Time Warner Telecom 8151 1412 2847 223 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 7018 1408 5794 978 AT&T WorldNet Services Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 209 2942 2321 Qwest 1785 1663 1509 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 4755 1639 1460 TATA Communications formerly 17488 1392 1291 Hathway IP Over Cable Interne 6298 1997 1266 Cox Communicatons 11492 1212 1201 Cable One 8151 1412 1189 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 4323 1519 1150 Time Warner Telecom 18566 1052 1042 Covad Communications 6478 1188 999 AT&T Worldnet Services Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-CIDRnet List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) ----------------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 16927 UNALLOCATED 12.0.252.0/23 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 22492 UNALLOCATED 12.2.46.0/24 1239 Sprint 15132 UNALLOCATED 12.9.150.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 32567 UNALLOCATED 12.14.170.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 13746 UNALLOCATED 12.24.56.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 32567 UNALLOCATED 12.25.107.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 26973 UNALLOCATED 12.39.152.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 26973 UNALLOCATED 12.39.154.0/23 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 26973 UNALLOCATED 12.39.159.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 32326 UNALLOCATED 12.40.49.0/24 3549 Global Crossing Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-badAS Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 24.75.116.0/22 10796 ServiceCo LLC - Road Runner 24.75.160.0/19 7843 Adelphia Corp. 24.142.40.0/21 7018 AT&T WorldNet Services 24.142.160.0/19 7018 AT&T WorldNet Services 24.246.0.0/17 7018 AT&T WorldNet Services 24.246.128.0/18 7018 AT&T WorldNet Services 62.61.220.0/24 24974 Tachyon Europe BV - Wireless 63.140.213.0/24 22555 Universal Talkware Corporatio 63.143.71.0/24 701 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 63.143.115.0/24 701 UUNET Technologies, Inc. Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-add-IANA Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:18 /9:9 /10:17 /11:45 /12:147 /13:295 /14:530 /15:1062 /16:10110 /17:4400 /18:7671 /19:16306 /20:19136 /21:18667 /22:23430 /23:24514 /24:140652 /25:797 /26:967 /27:767 /28:89 /29:9 /30:1 /31:0 /32:7 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 6389 2845 4293 bellsouth.net, inc. 6298 1971 1997 Cox Communicatons 209 1702 2942 Qwest 2386 1231 1551 AT&T Data Communications Serv 17488 1199 1392 Hathway IP Over Cable Interne 11492 1188 1212 Cable One 1785 1126 1663 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 6478 1080 1188 AT&T Worldnet Services 18566 1033 1052 Covad Communications 9583 977 1109 Sify Limited Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data/sXXas-nos Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 4:8 8:139 12:2163 13:2 15:22 16:3 17:5 18:13 20:35 24:1080 32:59 38:501 40:92 41:703 43:1 44:2 47:12 52:3 55:3 56:3 57:27 58:521 59:521 60:452 61:975 62:1226 63:2035 64:3218 65:2388 66:3485 67:1262 68:790 69:2328 70:853 71:172 72:2053 73:7 74:1199 75:166 76:264 77:795 78:840 79:258 80:939 81:838 82:583 83:377 84:576 85:1003 86:398 87:717 88:338 89:1361 90:21 91:1535 92:267 93:851 94:178 96:74 97:81 98:335 99:8 113:1 114:110 115:86 116:1001 117:366 118:232 119:498 120:94 121:597 122:850 123:437 124:862 125:1196 128:358 129:201 130:134 131:413 132:70 133:9 134:177 135:32 136:224 137:96 138:142 139:91 140:507 141:103 142:408 143:302 144:326 145:51 146:370 147:159 148:521 149:209 150:128 151:181 152:149 153:136 154:10 155:281 156:173 157:301 158:168 159:306 160:268 161:138 162:254 163:154 164:516 165:503 166:367 167:332 168:634 169:143 170:447 171:33 172:10 173:34 186:1 187:16 188:1 189:312 190:2226 192:5756 193:4136 194:3256 195:2583 196:997 198:3727 199:3301 200:5508 201:1436 202:7853 203:8086 204:3949 205:2140 206:2351 207:2739 208:3643 209:3420 210:2613 211:1088 212:1466 213:1631 214:176 215:50 216:4354 217:1218 218:350 219:437 220:1064 221:418 222:287 End of report

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Internet Filtering Lobby ?
by Marshall Eubanks 26 Sep '08

26 Sep '08

Does anyone know what this group is really about and how it might actually impact real networks ? Regards Marshall http://www.artsandlabs.com/ http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/entertainment-l.html Behind the lobby are AT&T, Cisco Systems, Microsoft, NBC Universal, Viacom and the Songwriters Guild of America. Among other things, the lobby, calledArts+Labs, says "network operators must have the flexibility to manage and expand their networks to defend against net pollution and illegal file-trafficking which threatens to congest and delay the network for all consumers."

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