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community meeting agenda
by Randy Bush 18 May '06

18 May '06

the sunday community meeting will cover at least o the normal reports, o the proposed charter changes, and o meeting scheduling issues, 2/3 meetings, planning horizon, etc. what else would *you* like to discuss? randy

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Re: Proxad? (Was: Drone Armies)
by Suresh Ramasubramanian 18 May '06

18 May '06

On 5/18/06, Mathias Koerber <mathias(a)koerber.org> wrote: > > abo is short for abonnement .. a city or district, in french > > You may be thinking of 'arrondissement', which means district. > > 'Abo', however seems to refer to subscribers: I knew the word, but it was always associated in their rDNS with the names of french towns Moral - never try to translate french when you know just about enough to order your dinner / call a taxi :) thanks srs

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How to tell if something is anycasted?
by David Hubbard 18 May '06

18 May '06

So I'm looking at a company who offers anycasted DNS; how do I tell if it's really anycasted? Just hop on different route servers to see if I can find different AS paths and then do traceroutes to see if they suggest the packets are not ending in the same location? >From my routers' perspective I don't see a difference, but then I don't think I should, correct? Thanks, David

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Re: Proxad? (Was: Drone Armies)
by dlr＠bungi.com 17 May '06

17 May '06

[In the message entitled "Re: Proxad? (Was: Drone Armies)" on May 16, 18:34, Rich Kulawiec writes:] > > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:57:20PM -0600, Michael Loftis wrote: > > Now this is interesting to me, because proxad has been at least as big a > > pain in my side as far as drones and SPAM sources. [snip] > > > > Anyone else seeing the same amount of problems with these guys? > > Yes. My current list shows 5032 distinct hosts emitting spam from > within their network, and that's as measured from a very small test > server -- I would imagine that large production servers are seeing > a lot more. This places them behind Comcast, Verizon and a couple > of others, but still solidly in the top ten. > France, in general, has crept up the list of spam-producing countries. The ranking of French ISPs is different, depending on if you consider the volume of spam (weights high-bandwidth ISPs heavier) or number of hosts. By volume of spam, it is: Proxad 12322 38% France Telecom 3215 22% LDCOMNET (cegetel) 15557 17% NOOS 6778 6% Cegetel 8228 5% By number of hosts, Proxad and France telecom swap places. The number of hosts, probably compromised, is very, very high on both. I'm seeing about 70,000 hosts used per month on F.T., and about 35,000 per month on Proxad, but the aggregated number of compromised hosts is much higher. --

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FCC Issues Second Order Mandating Internet Wiretapping Standards
by Fergie 17 May '06

17 May '06

Pardon the interruption, but I thought this might be slightly interesting to the list. EPIC.org: [snip] The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has released a second order reaffirming its decision to require that broadband and certain VoIP services be designed to make government wiretapping easier. This new order was issued despite the fact that a federal appeals court is considering a legal challenge to the FCC's initial decision to extend the "Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act" (CALEA) to the Internet. In its second order, the FCC imposed new compliance deadlines, but refused to clarify exactly what service providers must do. CDT has led the appeals court challenge, which if successful will overrule the FCC order. [snip] EPIC statement: http://www.cdt.org/headlines/891 Second FCC CALEA order: http://www.cdt.org/digi_tele/20060512calea.pdf Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming. Cheers, - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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Re: [Way OT] Re: Geo location to IP mapping
by Scott Weeks 17 May '06

17 May '06

----- Original Message Follows ----- From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen(a)unfix.org> > > One of the geolocation thingies said my addresses were > > in Amsterdam. That's only 10,000 miles from Hawaii. > > 2500 miles more and that's exactly the opposite side of > > the planet... ;-) > > Try http://www.hostip.info it is reasonable accurate in > most cases and hell it is for free. It depends what you > need it for of course but it is far better than nothing. > > 64.29.76.9, your mauigateway.com pops up correctly as > Honolulu. 205.166.249.10 is guessed to be somewhere random > in the US. That's not the address space I manage. It's just my ISP. >From www.hostip.info I get " ... actually we haven't a clue." The IP space I manage is a /15 and is in ARIN, so it's hard to miss... scott

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Re: [Way OT] Re: Geo location to IP mapping
by Robert Bonomi 17 May '06

17 May '06

> From owner-nanog(a)merit.edu Wed May 17 13:22:15 2006 > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > From: Marshall Eubanks <tme(a)multicasttech.com> > Subject: Re: [Way OT] Re: Geo location to IP mapping > Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:21:02 -0400 > To: surfer(a)mauigateway.com > > > > > On May 17, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > From: Jeff Rosowski <rosowskij(a)ie.ymp.gov> > > > >>> I just tried that, says I'm 100 miles south of where I > >>> really am. That's quite a long way out in a small > >> country like England. > >> > >> Only 100 miles? I entered the address of a box I have in > >> Virginia, and it says it's in California. Well at least > >> it got the country right. > > > > > > One of the geolocation thingies said my addresses were in > > Amsterdam. That's only 10,000 miles from Hawaii. 2500 > > miles more and that's exactly the opposite side of the > > planet... ;-) > > Sometimes knowing which planet you are dealing with can be useful... I find that the state is invariably correct. Although the seems to be a lot of 'uncertainty' about how to spell "confusion".

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Re: [Way OT] Re: Geo location to IP mapping
by Scott Weeks 17 May '06

17 May '06

----- Original Message Follows ----- From: Marshall Eubanks <tme(a)multicasttech.com> > > One of the geolocation thingies said my addresses were > > in Amsterdam. That's only 10,000 miles from Hawaii. > > 2500 miles more and that's exactly the opposite side of > > the planet... ;-) > > Sometimes knowing which planet you are dealing with can be > useful... Sure can be: www.ipnsig.org/home.htm :-) scott

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private ip addresses from ISP
by adrian kok 17 May '06

17 May '06

Hi all Have you had this experience? Our router is running BGP and connecting to our upstream provider with /30 network. Our log reveals that there are private IP addresses reaching our router's interface that is facing our upstream ISP. How could this be possible? Should upstream ISP be blocking private IP address according to standard configuration? Could the packet be stripped and IP be converted somehow during the transition? It happens in many Tier-1 ISP though ! Thank you for your information

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Geo location to IP mapping
by Ashe Canvar 17 May '06

17 May '06

Hi all, Can any of you please recommend some IP-to-geo mapping database / web service ? I would like to get resolution down to city if possible. Thanks and Regards, -ashe

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