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Re: that 4byte ASN you were considering...
by Henk Uijterwaal 10 Oct '06

10 Oct '06

At 13:34 10/10/2006, Michael.Dillon(a)btradianz.com wrote: >My point is that if we do NOT introduce a special notation >for ASnums greater than 65536, then tools only need to be >checked, not updated. If your tool was written by someone >who left the company 7 years ago then you might want to >do such checking by simply testing it with large as numbers, >not by inspecting the code. The dot notation requires that >somebody goes in and updates/fixes all these old tools. I don't agree with you but this is a valid argument. I suggest you make it to the IESG before they decide. Henk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1160438400 + 381600 = 1160820000.

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Lightning talks for Tuesday
by Steve Feldman 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

These lightning talks will be presented during the Tuesday plenary at NANOG 38, beginning at 11:00 CDT: 4 byte ASNs - Geoff Huston Higher Speed Ethernet - Peter Schoenmaker Internet2 DNSSEC Pilot - A Reverse Tree for the Holidays - Larry Blunk Route Aggregation Recommendations - Philip Smith The two-tier Internet, delivered - Anton Kapela Practical Wave Division Multiplexing, part 2 - Alex Pilosov and Adam Rothschild Steve

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Anyone else seeing latency through SJC2.ALTER.NET?
by William Schultz 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

5 0.so-1-0-0.GW1.SJC2.ALTER.NET (157.130.203.17) 2.173 ms 2.419 ms 2.228 ms 6 127.ATM4-0.XR1.SJC2.ALTER.NET (152.63.56.202) 287.247 ms 287.482 ms 287.548 ms 7 0.so-1-0-0.XL1.SJC2.ALTER.NET (152.63.56.137) 287.316 ms 287.743 ms 288.016 ms 5 0.so-5-1-0.GW6.SJC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.169) 1.998 ms 1.918 ms 0.so-1-0-0.GW1.SJC2.ALTER.NET (157.130.203.17) 1.606 ms 6 0.so-0-3-0.XL1.SJC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.56.174) 289.389 ms 293.047 ms 127.ATM4-0.XR2.SJC2.ALTER.NET (152.63.56.206) 294.331 ms 7 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SJC2.ALTER.NET (152.63.56.141) 294.862 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL1.SCL2.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.134) 3.410 ms 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SJC2.ALTER.NET (152.63.56.141) 295.108 ms 4 63.66.208.1 (63.66.208.1) 2.200 ms 2.143 ms 1.299 ms 5 0.so-1-1-0.GW1.SJC2.ALTER.NET (157.130.203.13) 274.324 ms 273.923 ms 273.909 ms 6 127.ATM5-0.XR2.SJC2.ALTER.NET (152.63.56.198) 1.973 ms 2.476 ms 2.431 ms 7 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SJC2.ALTER.NET (152.63.56.141) 274.125 ms 274.027 ms 274.190 ms -Wil

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Could someone from Mediacom respond ASAP please?
by scheidch＠cfu.net 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

If you're from Mediacom and can help out with this request, I'd very much appreciate your help. We've been added to your DNS blacklist and need to be removed. Thank you, Charles --------------------------------------------------------- Charles Scheidecker phone : +1.319.268.5227 Assistant Network Administrator fax : +1.319.266.8158 Cedar Falls Utilities cell : +1.319.493.0791 support: +1.319.268.5221 url : http://www.cfu.net

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Re: Experiences on dampening
by Fergie 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

No idea w.r.t. SIP, but I assume that you have seen this? "BGP Route Flap Dampening Considered Harmful" http://www.ripe.net/docs/ripe-378.html - ferg -- "J. Oquendo" <sil(a)infiltrated.net> wrote: Hey all, attempting to assess something related to networking but its on the SIP/telephony side of things. I'd like to know how many have had success and failures with route dampening. Purpose of this question is, I'm wondering about a method a VoIP PBX could take similar to BGP's dampening where the following would occur: SIPUSER REGISTER (SEND SIPINFO + IP_INFO) --> Server If SIPUSER decides to either REGISTER, INVITE, SUBSCRIBE, etc., in an insane amount of time, VoIP PBX would take action on it. Give SIPUSER an initial penalty and increment it justly however, it *cannot* be address based. It would likely be two predefined variables. Overall I just would like to know experiences, pros and cons, with dampening. Thanks in advanced. -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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2006 NANOG Voting
by Betty Burke 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

All: Voting for the 2006 NANOG SC and Charter amendments is now open. Refer to https://www.merit.edu/nanog/election/. Reminder you will need to use your NANOG id and password to cast your vote. The process will close on Tuesday at 3 EDT. The results will be shared at the close of NANOG38. Betty

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Experiences on dampening
by J. Oquendo 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

Hey all, attempting to assess something related to networking but its on the SIP/telephony side of things. I'd like to know how many have had success and failures with route dampening. Purpose of this question is, I'm wondering about a method a VoIP PBX could take similar to BGP's dampening where the following would occur: SIPUSER REGISTER (SEND SIPINFO + IP_INFO) --> Server If SIPUSER decides to either REGISTER, INVITE, SUBSCRIBE, etc., in an insane amount of time, VoIP PBX would take action on it. Give SIPUSER an initial penalty and increment it justly however, it *cannot* be address based. It would likely be two predefined variables. Overall I just would like to know experiences, pros and cons, with dampening. Thanks in advanced. -- ==================================================== J. Oquendo http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1383A743 sil . infiltrated @ net http://www.infiltrated.net The happiness of society is the end of government. John Adams

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NANOG Program Committee nominations needed
by Steve Feldman 08 Oct '06

08 Oct '06

Nominations for the NANOG Program Committee are still open. There are eight terms ending this year: Joe Abley Kevin Epperson Steve Feldman Hank Kilmer Christopher Morrow David O'Leary Ted Seely Bill Woodcock (All eight are eligible for another term, under the charter.) ** Procedure ** To nominate yourself or someone else, please send mail to nanog-elections(a)nanog.org with the following, no later than Wednesday, October 11: - Your name - Nominee's name (if not you) - Nominee's email address - Nominee's phone number - Reasons why you believe the nominee is qualified to serve on the Program Committee. Merit will contact each of the nominees to verify interest and possibly request additional information. The Steering Committee, with input from the current Program Committee, will then select the person to fill the position. ** Eligibility ** The charter states: "To be eligible to be appointed as a member of the Program Committee, an individual must have attended one NANOG meeting within the prior calendar year (12 months). " ** Duties ** Again quoting the charter: "The Program Committee is responsible for motivating/soliciting people to submit interesting talks, selecting the submissions which seem most appropriate (with some attention to presentation skills), and following up with speakers after acceptances to ensure that presentations are completed in time, with ample warning of potential problems with the presentation." "Each member of the Program Committee must review all presentations submitted for each meeting. The Chair may excuse a member from one meeting's review cycle due to extenuating circumstances, but if a member misses two meetings in a row, he or she may be removed from the committee." ** Length of term ** This position is for the remainder of a two year term, which began after the Fall 2005 meeting, and ends with the Fall 2007 meeting. If you have any further questions, please post to the nanog-futures list, or contact the Steering Committee at steering(a)nanog.org. Steve Feldman, PC Chair [1] The full charter is available at http://www.nanog.org/charter.html

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NANOG 38 Lightning Talks
by Steve Feldman 08 Oct '06

08 Oct '06

We are now accepting submissions for lightning talks at NANOG 38. Meeting attendees may submit a talk title and brief abstract at http://www.nanogpc.org/lightning/ Selected speakers will be notified Monday evening, with any slides due by Tuesday morning. A lightning talk is a very short presentation or speech by any attendee on any topic relevant to the NANOG audience. These are limited to ten minutes; this will be strictly enforced. If you have a topic that's timely, interesting, or even a crackpot idea you want to share, we encourage you to consider presenting it. Signups for lightning talks will be accepted during the NANOG meeting. The Program Committee will decide which submissions are relevant (using criteria based on the NANOG mailing list AUP,) and choose the best six to be presented. Use of slides is optional. All slides must be in PDF or Powerpoint format, and will be loaded in advance onto the speaker laptop on the podium. There is a good overview of the use of lightning talks at the Perl conference at http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/07/30/lightningtalk.html. Although their format is slightly different, many of their ideas will apply here. Steve Feldman PC Chair

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Skydiving at nanog
by alex＠pilosoft.com 08 Oct '06

08 Oct '06

Bored? Seeking something more exciting than a mid-day IGP migration and East St Louis bowling? Tired of listening about things that "won't scale" and configuring RIP on your core routers? SFM and PIC failures make you suicidal? Here's your chance to have once-in-lifetime experience! Few people expressed interest in going skydiving - so I would like to put a wider call to see if there's any interest. The dropzone is 1 hour away (Archway skydiving - www.archwayskydiving.com) Price is 229$ for the tandem jump (you and instructor) (plus 80$ for videotaping if you want). Fun facts: * 1 in 400 jumps experience parachute malfunction Tentative plan is to leave hotel at around 10am, at dropzone at 11am, expect to spend 4-5 hours there, come back at 5pm or so - just in time for the community meeting! Shoot me email if you are interested. -alex

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