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Sheesh, regulators
by Suresh Ramasubramanian 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2004/09/11/stories/2004091102660400.htm ISPs may be stopped from offering private leased line services Thomas K. Thomas New Delhi , Sept. 10 INTERNET Service Providers (ISPs) are in for a major setback with the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI) proposing to restrict them from offering private leased line services. While the telecom regulator is considering to ask the state-owned Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd (BSNL) to resume provision of leased line resources to ISPs, the latter may be allowed to use it only for providing Internet-based services. This will come as a big blow to Internet operators who get a significant part of their revenue from corporate leased line services like virtual private network (VPN). The fight between BSNL and ISPs over the issue has been hanging fire for the last few months. The high point came when BSNL stopped offering leased line services to ISPs on grounds that they were misusing the infrastructure to offer services that were beyond the scope of their licence. BSNL had argued that ISPs, who do not pay any entry fee or licence fee, should not be allowed to offer corporate leased line service as it was infringing on the turf of long distance operators. Companies such as Sify, HCL Infinet and Tata Internet had made representation to the regulator against the stance taken by BSNL. The telecom regulator has taken a position favouring BSNL by saying that the public sector company was justified in its demand, as ISPs were not eligible to provide services such as VPN. This service is used by large corporates to network all their branch offices spread across the country. However, a TRAI report on the issue said that BSNL was fair in demanding that ISPs can use the leased lines only for Internet purpose and not resell it, because they were not entitled to do the business of reselling bandwidth leased from other telecom service providers. The telecom regulator has also sought the views of the Department of Telecom (DoT) on the issue and would give its final directive in the next few weeks. DoT officials said that the department was looking at allowing ISPs to offer VPN services but only after paying an entry fee to level the playing field with long distance players.

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IPv6 support for com/net zones on October 19, 2004
by Matt Larson 01 Nov '04

01 Nov '04

VeriSign will add support for accessing the com/net zones using IPv6 transport on October 19, 2004. On that day, AAAA records for a.gtld-servers.net and b.gtld-servers.net will be added to the root and gtld-servers.net zones. We do not anticipate any problems resulting from this change, but because these zones are widely used and closely watched, we want to let the Internet community know about the changes in advance. Matt -- Matt Larson <mlarson(a)verisign.com> VeriSign Naming and Directory Services

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Blackhole Routes
by Abhishek Verma 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

Hi, There are ways to add static routes that can be blackholed. I can understand the utility of such routes if those are installed in my forwarding table. What bewilders me is why would anyone want to advertise "blackhole" routes using say, BGP? Is it only to prevent some sort of DoS attacks or are there other uses also of advertising black hole routes? Thanks, Abhishek -- Class of 2004 Institute of Technology, BHU Varanasi, India

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IGMP with ISP radius accounting
by Sean Donelan 01 Oct '04

01 Oct '04

Have any ISPs (which really means vendors) looked at integrating IGMP support in edge switches with RADIUS? I'm aware of IGAP, but that involves changing the packets and identifying individual users. I was wondering about using IGMP snooping to trigger RADIUS accounting events, e.g. join, leave.

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ddos attack advice
by adrian kok 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

Dear all I have ddos attack to our ip A.B.C.D yesterday. Someone suggest me to post it here and I might get advice from this newsgroup 1/ What's good methodology in blocking certain IP address? ACL or strictly filtering list, Which one is better? or some other effective ways also? 2/ We could act immediately to block the IP address at our firewall; but the load is still in our end (from the machine A.B.C.D trasnfered to our firewall) Then we also asked our uptream ISP to block it, the load should be at their end. How does ISP handle the sudden bandwidth resulted from a DDOS attack. Thank you

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(OT): need QWEST NOC contact
by Rich Sena 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

Please contact me off-list -- Rich Sena - ras(a)thick.net ThickNET Consulting "On the way to understanding; you understand, and forget."

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RE: Earthquake in Northern California
by Dave Hilton 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

Foster City (zip 94404) The Liquidation Capital of Northern California. There was some mild rolling, window blinds swaying, minor ripples in the coffee cup. Not enough to knock our 172.16 down to 86.8 Dave Hilton Staff System Administrator entelos(r) Foster City, CA "Notice: I tend to become apprehensive when my position in the food chain becomes ambiguous."

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RE: Open-Source Network Management Tools
by JDeane＠sungardfutures.com 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

The one item I've found missing in the open source NMS tools I've examined is functional and aesthetically pleasing mapping, i.e. the big picture network map with ability to drill down. If anyone has found a nifty solution for this please let me know! Regards, Jade Jade E. Deane Senior Network Engineer SunGard Futures Systems SunGard Systems International, Inc. jdeane(a)sungardfutures.com +1 (312) 577-6100 +1 (866) 741-0076 (Fax)

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Re: Open-Source Network Management Tools
by Pete Hoffswell 29 Sep '04

29 Sep '04

You can also look at NMIS http://www.sins.com.au/nmis/ Pete Hoffswell 616-732-1101 (Grand Rapids, x1101) University LAN/WAN Coordinator 616-510-1198 (Mobile) IT Services pete.hoffswell(a)davenport.edu Davenport University http://www.davenport.edu -=-=- LAN/WAN services: http://networker.davenport.edu -=-=- >>> "Claydon, Tom" <Tom.Claydon(a)DobsonTelco.net> 9/14/2004 3:47:45 PM >>> I'm looking for open-source alternatives for network management, such as Nagios or Big Brother. We are currently using WhatsUp Gold, and would like to move to something more flexible (and not running on a Windows platform). Something that has email/paging capabilities, and can process SNMP traps would be a plus for us as well. Recommendations? Thanks.

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OT: Slowing the speed of light to improve networking?
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 29 Sep '04

29 Sep '04

A colleague brought this article to my attention. Slightly off-topic, but interesting nonetheless: "Researchers at UC Berkeley, along with scientists from the University of Oregon and the University of Illinois, say they can slow the speed of light in a way that could help speed the delivery of movies to your PC. "Scientists at the university managed to slow the speed of light traveling through a semiconductor to 6 miles a second, or 31,000 times slower than the 186,000 miles per second that light normally travels in a vacuum. "Slowing the light pulses could lead to a more orderly traffic flow in networks, ....." Full article: http://news.com.com/Slowing+the+speed+of+light+to+improve+networking/2100-1… - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net

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