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Re: OT: Re: Critters
by Robert Bonomi 12 Jul '04

12 Jul '04

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, "Tom (UnitedLayer)" wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Jeff Cole wrote: > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > Reliance Infocomm is installing 80,000 km of fiber in India. I wonder if > > > they have any tiger stories. > > > > Oh no. You find lions only in Kenya.... > > Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my! > Err wait, which way to OZ again? Since the pavingstones leading in that direction have the characteristic color of gold, a name-change was implemented some time ago. The correct form of your question is: "Which way to .AU again?" Still, the 'dorothy' path-discovery algorithm indicates that an excessive number of hops are needed to reach the destination. Viewing the MGM data-visualization model results, it is obvious that skipping intermediate points is preferable to a walk of the path 'in toto'.

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Re: OT: Re: Critters
by Robert Bonomi 12 Jul '04

12 Jul '04

> From owner-nanog(a)merit.edu Mon Jul 12 14:51:58 2004 > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:31:07 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Tom (UnitedLayer)" <tom(a)unitedlayer.com> > To: Jeff Cole <jeff(a)flambe.org> > Cc: "'nanog list'" <nanog(a)merit.edu> > Subject: Re: OT: Re: Critters > > > On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Jeff Cole wrote: > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > Reliance Infocomm is installing 80,000 km of fiber in India. I wonder if > > > they have any tiger stories. > > > > Oh no. You find lions only in Kenya.... > > Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my! > Err wait, which way to OZ again? Since the pavingstones leading in that direction have the characteristic color of gold, a name-change was implemented some time ago. The correct form of your question is: "Which way to .AU again?" Still, the 'dorothy' path-discovery algorithm indicates that an excessive number of hops are needed to reach the destination. Viewing the MGM data-visualization model results, it is obvious that skipping intermediate points is preferable to a walk of the path 'in toto'.

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Re: OT: Re: Critters
by Eric Brunner-Williams 12 Jul '04

12 Jul '04

My first daughter's pet rabbit re-wired my apartment network, power and data. At SRI in Menlo Park, the squirrels were always keen for that tasty grey cable whenever it was run where they could get it. I wish I had a moose-and-cable story. Sorry.

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Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious
by Dan Hollis 12 Jul '04

12 Jul '04

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > http://www.webhelper4u.com/CWS/cwsoriginial.html > These folks? Looks like it's all Cogent. Surely someone has contacted > Cogent about this? I'm sure someone has. The real question should be, does cogent care? http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings.lasso?isp=cogentco.com Magic 8-ball: "all signs point to no"

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RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious
by Michel Py 12 Jul '04

12 Jul '04

> Sean Donelan wrote: > Spyware isn't the best term for what is happening, but it > is quickly exceeding (or contributing) to all the other > problems associated with the online (not just Internet) world. Indeed. Lately, I have not been able to clean a very annoying piece of crud named "CoolWebSearch". Spybot will not always detect and never remove; Ad-aware will likely detect but not remove either. None of the other crapware removers I have tried could clean the machine either. I have instructed helpdesk not to waste any time with it and systematically re-image the infected PC :-( Fortunately, re-imaging a PC is now a matter of minutes. Michel.

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RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious
by Michel Py 12 Jul '04

12 Jul '04

> Rubens Kuhl Jr. wrote: > Try booting into safe mode before running software to detect > or remove spyware; some of them fight to survive if they are > running, dunno if it is the case with CoolWebSearch. Tried that too, does not help with CWS. Michel.

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RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious
by Michel Py 12 Jul '04

12 Jul '04

> Michael Painter wrote: > You're right...it can be a sob to remove. CWShredder > has worked well for me. > http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html First thing I tried after Ad-aware and Spybot, no go :-( In some cases, the only way out of it is HiJackthis (http://www.spychecker.com/program/hijackthis.html) which unfortunately requires a somehow skilled tech and lots of time, with no guarantee. I ruled it out for financial reasons: eventually a skilled tech will indeed be able to clean the machine, but the bottom line is not favorable in a mid-size or large corporate environment: it takes a lot less time and money to send a grease monkey reload the machine and send L2 tech to put back user settings. Not elegant nor smart, but works. Michel.

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Spyware becomes increasingly malicious
by Sean Donelan 11 Jul '04

11 Jul '04

Spyware isn't the best term for what is happening, but it is quickly exceeding (or contributing) to all the other problems associated with the online (not just Internet) world. You probably need to be a paid subscriber or visit a public library http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB108958290808760730,00.html By Lee Gomes Wall Street Journal, July 12 2004 Spyware was never a good thing, but lately it has gotten a whole lot worse. For many people, it has become a bigger problem than spam, and one more reason to regret being online. What did the future look like a year ago, Blaster had just hit and spyware wasn't as bad? The R&E community has some interesting ideas. Security at Line Speed Workshop http://apps.internet2.edu/sals/2003aug/presentations.html Terry Gray's "disconnect: security in the post-Internet era" identifies some of the consequences. Jim Rothfuss's "protection of an Open computing environment" covers some of the tools they use. But scaling remains an issue. Who should control your personal computer?

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Re: OT: Re: Critters
by frank＠dticonsulting.com 11 Jul '04

11 Jul '04

The year was 1968. I was working the 4 to 12 at the NY #2 office of AT&T, which was located at 32 Avenue of the Americas, just south of Canal St. near NY's China Town. It was just about 11:30 PM when I received a system alarm on a NY to Kingston NY "ON" Carrier Ssytem. Believe me, they don't make those anymore. Anyway, the clanger alarm got my attention, so I began investigating its source. To make a long story short, the system was knocked down on purposes by a NY Telephone transmissionman who was stuck atop a pole is sub-freezing weather, with a large, persistent bear at its base. He'd been there for about an hour, he said, and wouldn't leave. So I alerted the local town constable who came to the rescue ... ... at 'round 2AM. The bear stayed there for the entire time, and the guy on the pole was near frost-bitten when all was said and done. Anyway, I got a couple hours of overtime out of the deal, if memory serves me right. ========= On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:07 , 'Marshall Eubanks' <tme(a)multicasttech.com> sent: > >Cats and Spiders, Ha ! > >I was involved with the construction of a radio telescope in the Spitzbergen settlement of Ny >Alesund, Norway (78 degrees 56 minutes north). > >http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/vlbi/images/telbig/nyales.gif > >Staff were assigned Colt 45 revolvers because the area was frequented by Polar >Bears - up to 400 kilos, able to run faster than a person, and (so I was told) with >an annoying habit of appearing between you and the front door if you went to take out >the garbage. Just about every year they would get a trekker or two. > >Reliance Infocomm is installing 80,000 km of fiber in India. I wonder if >they have any tiger stories. > >Marshall > > > > >On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 21:44:06 -0700 > "Aaron Thomas" athomas(a)deltacable.com> wrote: >> >> Since we are on the topic of animal encounters related to being 'on the job'... >> >> I once worked as a cable installer for the same company I work for today. I was running a new >> cable outlet for a customer in an >> older farm house in a rural part of our serving area. This big old farm house had a lot of cats >> at one time or another, as I was >> about to find out. I entered the crawlspace, which was quite spacious as far as crawl spaces go, >> and the opening was large enough I >> didn't have to bring my flashlight out right away. As I ventured into the back of the house, I >> started feeling something crunchy, >> yet soft, as I crawled in... I reached to my belt for my flash light and had a look... I was >> smack dab in the middle of anywhere >> between 200 - 400 bird skeletons and feathers. >> >> I had a small problem with crawlspaces before then due to a large spider infestation... But guess >> what I think of them now. Can't >> get me inside them unless they are brand new. >> >> My 2 cents >> >> Aaron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [owner-nanog(a)merit.edu','','','')">owner-nanog(a)merit.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Brunner-Williams >> Sent: July 9, 2004 6:29 AM >> To: Deepak Jain >> Cc: Richard Welty; nanog list; brunner(a)nic-naa.net >> Subject: Re: OT: Re: Critters >> >> >> My first daughter's pet rabbit re-wired my apartment network, power and data. >> >> At SRI in Menlo Park, the squirrels were always keen for that tasty grey cable whenever it was >> run where they could get it. >> >> I wish I had a moose-and-cable story. Sorry. >> >> >> >

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RE: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net
by Bruce Beckwith 11 Jul '04

11 Jul '04

Since September 2003, .ORG has offered resolution of new registrations and changes to domain name records within 5 minutes. This was announced in the following release http://www.pir.org/news/press_releases/pr_articles/2003-09-08-01 Regards, Bruce Bruce W. Beckwith VP, Operations Public Interest Registry -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Lewinski Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 10:36 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net David A.Ulevitch wrote: > I'm appreciative of this change -- but fyi, they aren't the only TLD > operators doing this, there are quite a few doing near-instant changes > to their respective zones. I just registered a new .org and it had visibility from external NS not more than 15 minutes later (I would have paid closer attention to just how long it took, but didn't even think to check on it until reading this thread). Maybe I just got lucky and hit their update window (I registered ~ 3:15AM UTC on 11-July-2004 fwiw). Anyone know the status of .org updates?

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