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NYTIMES: New undersea cable projects face some old problems
by Suresh Ramasubramanian 10 May '04

10 May '04

[about new cables laid by FLAG and SEA-ME-WE-4] -- suresh ramasubramanian suresh(a)outblaze.com gpg EDEDEFB9 manager, security and antispam operations, outblaze ltd > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/10/business/10cable.html?th=&pagewanted=all&… > New Undersea Cable Projects Face Some Old Problems By KEN BELSON > > Published: May 10, 2004 > > It has been several years since executives in the undersea cable > industry had anything to cheer about. Nearly every company that > strings fiber optics across oceans has been restructured or has gone > bankrupt. Lease prices for cable lines have collapsed and are still > falling. Bankers pulled the plug on most new projects long ago > because so much cable was already sitting at the bottom of the ocean. [...] > The projects - the Falcon cable financed privately by Flag Telecom > and the Sea-Me-We 4 line built by a consortium of global telephone > companies led by Singapore Telecommunications - are nothing if not [...] > But the operators of the new cable lines face the same problems that > sank many competitors. Chief among them is that the amount of > capacity being added far outpaces growth in Internet use and demand > for long-haul lines. Until this changes, prices will slide, making it [...] > Mr. Rawle also expects demand for data links from countries in the > Indian Ocean, Persian Gulf and Red Sea to the rest of the world to > increase 38 percent a year on average through 2013. The problem is [...] > "If you're a buyer, that's the side you want to be on," said David W. > Dorman, the chairman and chief executive of AT&T, which has not built > undersea cables since 1999. "Any time I hear someone is going to > build another cable, we go, 'Bravo.' " But Mr. Dorman added that as a > business proposition, "I wouldn't be putting any new cable into the > ocean right now."

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Re: Corporations becoming a LIR
by leo vegoda 10 May '04

10 May '04

Hi Tom, On May 7, 2004, at 4:10 pm, Tom Vest wrote: > Hi Leo, > > I find the information under the individual LIR entries interesting. > For example, I looked under CN (China) and found 14 European LIRs. I > couldn't find any explanation for the "serviced areas" field in the > LIR refbook -- what exactly does it mean? In this particular case, it > could not mean that the entities are providing IR services to Chinese > operators for local production needs. Nor would it be possible for > these entities to provide IR services to non-Chinese operators for > local use, with the (still unlikely I think) exception of the LIRs' > own internal enterprise networks (e.g., Siemens provisioning its own > CN operations). Could they be servicing Chinese network operators > seeking to break into Europe? No such operators exist, except perhaps > the few telcos that are already APNIC members and handle their own > needs. > > Maybe the "serviced areas" field is simply one of those questions that > means "whatever the applicant thinks it means," i.e., it's technically > meaningless (each respondent would have to independently translate it > into terms that are meaningful to others)? Some clarification here > would be much appreciated! I agree that those pages are a bit confusing. All the LIRs listed in the page for China are actually based in other countries. They just happen to offer services there. For instance, I believe the people at the Holy See indicate that they provide services (no pun intended) in every country in the world. The "serviced areas" field is drawn from a list of countries supplied by the member. They're asked to indicate the country or countries in which they assign addresses or provide services. However, in most cases, when LIRs operate outside the RIPE NCC service region they aren't providing ISP-type services with address space from our region. They're actually providing other types of products or services. I don't think any particular meaning can be applied to the data on these pages. They probably need a bit of an overhaul, really. Regards, -- leo vegoda Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC

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Hierarchical Credit-based Queuing (HCQ): QoS
by Vicky Rode 10 May '04

10 May '04

Hi there, Just wondering if anyone out there has either implemented or looked into this queuing method for quality of service implementation. This solution is offered (hardware solution) and patented by foursticks.com. According to foursticks, "HCQ achieves the efficiency and flexibility of first generation queuing systems, without the disadvantages." It compares HCQ (interesting reading) w/ Class-Based Queuing (CBQ), Random Early Discard (RED) and Weighted Random Early Discard (WRED),Weighted Fair Queuing (WFQ),Priority Queuing (PQ) & Low Latency Queuing (LLQ). Also can anyone recommend a qos forum which I can ping as well. Any insight will be appreciated. regards, /vicky

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RE: Filtering network content based on User Subscription
by Ejay Hire 09 May '04

09 May '04

I'm bumping the tail-end of this thread, but here goes. we implemet per-user dynamic content filtering using an N2H2 on a squid box running as a transparent proxy. When we had tnt's, we used ASCEND-IP-DIRECT to force filtered users through the n2h2. We use cisco As5800's now and have an outbound policy that checks and redirects based on the Ip address they are assigned (until I get the final VPDN solution working.) -Ejay -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Mark Borchers Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 6:42 PM To: jshen(a)spymac.com Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: Filtering network content based on User Subscription > Your best bet in this case is to place a appropriately sized > firewall at > the customer's site, i.e. Cisco PIX 501 - 515 series or SonicWall's > equivalent and link it to a WebSense or N2H2 content > filtering server at > your NOC. [snip] > Scott C. McGrath Joe, Cisco's Content Engine can also do the functions that Scott mentioned, plus gives you the benefit of web caching. It's very feature-rich, and the command line looks a lot like IOS. You can configure it to FTP your whitelist of URLs, and set up user-specific or global time restrictions, which address a couple of your specs. For the latter, I think you need the Smart Filter module, which is not part of the basic Content Engine distribution.

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Filtering network content based on User Subscription
by jshen＠spymac.com 08 May '04

08 May '04

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ISP for Bangalore, India
by Eric Gauthier 08 May '04

08 May '04

Heya, I'm spec'ing out a project that involves some large-scale video conferencing and collaboration amoung several locations. The ones in the US are looking to use AccessGrid software, which we're anticipating will be about an 11Mbps peak load. Anyone know if its possible to get a "reasonably" priced 11Mbps circuit in Bangalore, India that would also have under 500ms latency (i.e. not on a multi-second satellite hop) to the east coast of the US? Eric :) PS: Yes, I know "reasonable" is in the eye of the beholder...

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New IANA allocations to RIPE NCC
by John L Crain 08 May '04

08 May '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following sixteen (16) IPv6 /23 blocks to RIPE NCC: 2001:1C00::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:1E00::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:2000::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:2200::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:2400::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:2600::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:2800::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:2A00::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:2C00::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:2E00::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:3000::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:3200::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:3400::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:3600::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:3800::/23 RIPE NCC 2001:3A00::/23 RIPE NCC For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see: <http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments> Thanks, John L Crain IANA ================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQJvtIdGxp5XUiliSEQLaagCg0Y/pRQcTAnlsRjzfQU2fKzNSW9oAn37X UGz4VQHBrGD23aFqYYyXo7JX =2oTv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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German police arrest Sasser worm suspect
by Sean Donelan 08 May '04

08 May '04

An 18-year-old high school student has been arrested in Germany on suspicion of creating the Sasser internet worm, police say. Police say the man was arrested in the northern German town of Rotenburg. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3695857.stm

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Provisioning backbone network for NGP with QoS enabled
by jshen＠spymac.com 08 May '04

08 May '04

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Corporations becoming a LIR
by Drumm, Dan 07 May '04

07 May '04

Nanog: I work as the Network Architect for a multinational corporation, Ball Corporation (http://www.ball.com) Currently, we hold a Class B network, 162.18.0.0/16 and have been multi-homed in the past, and will be multi-homed in the future, and have our own AS. The network is very large, as we've used this addressing internally for our facilities in North America and Canada. We've allocated over 220 subnets. We now have a European division, Ball-Europe (http://www.ball-europe.com <http://www.ball-europe.com/> ). They have RFC 1918 addressing internally, and have the usual problems with NAT and overload addressing. I'm starting the process of filling out an application to register the company, based in Ratingen, DE with RIPE as a Local Internet Registry (LIR) so that we can request a /18 (or /17 if we can get one) for the 40 some production facilities of Ball-Europe, each of which will come across a VPN network and be presented in one block to the ISP uplinks. I was wondering, basically, if I have any chance at this? While RIPE clearly states the admission policy is open to any organization, in order to get PIR (Provider Independent routing) being a RIPE NCC is required, and I don't know if a corporation would have a shot. Currently, we are not an ARIN member, but hold the Class B. The corporation exists in 6 EU nations, and I can demonstrate the requirement for >2048 individual IP addresses. I realize this the NORTH AMERICAN Network operator group, and most of you deal with ARIN, but I thought some members might have experience in this area as well. Thanks in advance.

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