February 2003 - Test - lists.nanog.org

RE: Cidera shuts down
by Ringdahl, Dwight (WebUseNet) 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Yes I just heard this from Doug too, if anyone need a quick fix for usenet feeds, email me directly. I'll set you up and help you til we can come up with a business solution. Dwight -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Wheat [mailto:jeff@cetlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 5:05 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Cidera shuts down Just received this from Cidera: "We regret to inform you that Cidera has discontinued its netnews and caching services effective immediately. We wished to provide you with more advanced notification of this termination of service, but unfortunately we were not able to do so. The current economic situation has been difficult for us and for our customers, and we wish all of you the best of luck and good fortune with your businesses. Everyone at Cidera feels it has been a privilege to serve you." I am now in need of obtaining a new source for news that is satellite based. Can anyone offer any suggestions and or recommendations? All information is appreciated! Regards, Jeff --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/2003

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FNSI (AS6259) -> Cogent
by Adam Kujawski 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

"Fiber Network Solutions and Cogent Communications are pleased to announce that Cogent Communications has agreed to acquire the major assets of FNSI, including all FNSI customers. After careful and thorough consideration, FNSI selected Cogent, a premier Tier One Internet Service Provider, as the successor to FNSIs operations." -Kuj

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In case you didn't notice: Virtual protest
by Sean Donelan 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

According to news reports "many" people were supposed to call, e-mail, etc their elected representatives in the US capital today. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6032-2003Feb26.html As far as I can tell from the public measurement sites, there doesn't appear to be any significant change in network traffic.

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RE: In case you didn't notice: Virtual protest
by St. Clair, James 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

:( Pluh-lease! You forgot one.. John Sullivan on MANIFEST DESTINY: ================================== "...and her high example shall smite unto death the tyranny of kings, hierarchs, and oligarchs, and carry the glad tidings of peace and good will where myriads now endure an existence scarcely more enviable than that of beasts of the field. " (1839) ..ties back to Truman's quote nicely... J -----Original Message----- From: Richard Irving To: Sean Donelan Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Sent: 2/26/03 5:05 PM Subject: Re: In case you didn't notice: Virtual protest conf t router> warning, this post cannot configure routers. ;) A few thoughts of Past Presidents to act as a "Virtual" Guiding Light to Modern America: President McKinley on WAR: ========================== "War should never be entered upon until every agency of peace has failed." (March 4, 1897) President Truman on FUD: ======================== "America was not built on fear. America was built on courage, on imagination and an unbeatable determination to do the job at hand." (January 8, 1947) President Eisenhower on Weapons: =============================== "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, in a final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." (April 16, 1953). ..and on general trends in culture and Wisdom: ---------------------------------------------- "This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. . . . In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." (January 17, 1961) President Johnson, L. on Evil: ============================== "Evil acts of the past are never rectified by evil acts of the present." (July 21, 1964) ------------------------------------ And on the "lighter" note, I leave you with Nixon, Reagan, and of course, W : President Nixon on Corruption: ============================== "When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal." (May 19, 1977) President Reagan on Government: =============================== "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." (January 20, 1981) "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." (March 2, 1977) -------------------------------------------------- Ok.. One "W" quote..... but, very reluctantly.... -------------------------------------------------- And , in our top 10 countdown, "W" issue's -=irrefutable=- Wisdom: =================================== "It is clear our nation is reliant upon big foreign oil. More and more of our imports come from overseas! - Sep 25, 2000 ;) .Richard. =========================== A Final Haiku marking a Passing Moment, of Communication History: "Softly like a Leaf The Autumn of Cidera Dishes fall silent" ========== .... ... .. , Sean Donelan wrote: > > According to news reports "many" people were supposed to call, e-mail, etc > their elected representatives in the US capital today. > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6032-2003Feb26.html > > As far as I can tell from the public measurement sites, there doesn't > appear to be any significant change in network traffic.

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Re: In case you didn't notice: Virtual protest
by Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

My partner tells me that WH, Senate, and House in-bound voice has had load above capacity for some of the day. The call volume is in excess of 10^^6.

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Re: In case you didn't notice: Virtual protest
by Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

The C-SPAN site may be under significant load. Ari Flisher got laughed off the stage today by the WH Press Corps. Start at an offset of :28 and listen for the phrase "laughed off the stage".

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turning up a juniper OC-3 interface
by Daniel Abbey 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

What is the command to administratively turn up a Juniper OC-3 interface? I don't seem to be getting it right.

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RE: 69.0.0.0/8 - Please update your filters
by Todd A. Blank 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

In my original thread, I referred to the "orphaned" equipment in use in many networks. I am sure it does not help when organizations have massive layoffs and the people that put these filters in place or originally managed the offending devices are no longer employed by the organization in question. As once told to me by a prior employer of mine (right before he eliminated my job): "After all, once the network is up and running, who needs all those "extra" people to manage it?" :-) Todd -----Original Message----- From: Sameer R. Manek [mailto:manek@ecst.csuchico.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:58 AM To: Todd A. Blank; jlewis(a)lewis.org; haesu(a)towardex.com Cc: stephen(a)sprunk.org; eddy+public+spam(a)noc.everquick.net; nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: RE: 69.0.0.0/8 - Please update your filters > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of > Todd A. Blank > > We were an early user of the 69/8 address space. I started the original > thread on this subject back in Sept/Oct 2002. While I am very disturbed > (but not surprised) to find out that there are still serious issues with > networks acknowledging this allocation, this is one of the best > suggestions I have seen for doing something to force the issue. > Filters once in place are rarely removed, unless the maintainers of the filters are notified about a specific problem. Even then the filters never completely go away. There is always a device or two in everyone's network that have been forgotten about, with outdated filters. Sameer

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RE: 69.0.0.0/8 - Please update your filters
by Roldan, Brad 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Geoff, Thanks for your concern. We are well aware of the problem and expect to make changes in the coming months. Feel free to contact me off-list if you would like to discuss this further. Regards, Brad -- Covad Communications 3420 Central Expressway Santa Clara, CA 95051 +1-408-616-6830 broldan(a)covad.com -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Huston [mailto:cidr-report@potaroo.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:57 AM To: Hsu, Vicky; nanog(a)merit.edu Cc: pfs(a)cisco.com Subject: Re: 69.0.0.0/8 - Please update your filters In return, would Covad please consider performing some meaningful form of route aggregation or other measures to reduce the amount of noise that is being passed across the global routing tables that originates from Covad? http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS18566&view=4637 suggests that Covad could withdraw some 483 BGP routing table entries, reducing the total number of entires originated by Covad from 490 to an equivalent set of 8 aggregate routes. Perhaps use of NO EXPORT when announcing the more specifics to your upstream transit providers would be a globally helpful action to consider. regards, Geoff Huston At 02:09 PM 2/25/2003 -0800, Hsu, Vicky wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Chan, KaLun Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:18 PM To: Chan, KaLun; DL NOC Managers; DL NOC-IP Services Cc: Eisenhart, William; Minter, Daniel; DL Neteng-core-ip Subject: RE: [ARIN-20030123.943] 69.3.0.0/Covad - who had this block before? All, It has recently come to our attention that many Internet routers are still filtering out IP addresses in the 69.0.0.0/8 range. If YOU are still filtering this block in your router, please modify your filters accordingly. Thank You IANA IPv4 Allocation List - <http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space> Bogon List - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html> Secure IOS Template - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-ios-template.html> Secure BGP Template - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bgp-template.html> Secure BIND Template - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bind-template.html> Sincerely, Ka Lun Chan (KC) Security Operation Center COVAD Communication SOC#: 866-722-2602 Dir #: 408-434-4919 Fax #: 408-434-2191 Easy to do Business with

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Network monitoring/IDS rant - What's hot what's not?
by Christopher J. Wolff 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Tivoli, Openview, Unicenter, ipmonitor, mrtg, nagios? There are many network monitoring options but each option has its pitfalls. I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that any software Computer Associates publishes is designed for the criminally insane. However, there 'has' to be something that offers more visibility into a major WAN than MRTG/RRDTOOL. Perhaps I'm on a Computer Associates rant today but can anyone share any positive experiences with E-trust intrusion detection? 5 MB of traffic flow paralyzes a dual P3 with gobs of ram and it still misses signatures that Snort does not miss. Originally I was going to blame this lousy performance on application tuning; however, it was a CA engineer that set this box up. Any IDS suggestions would be greatly appreciated as well. Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Broadband Laboratories, Inc. http://www.bblabs.com

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