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EuroNOG
by Nicolas DEFFAYET 07 Feb '03

07 Feb '03

Hello, I forward this on behalf of my colleague. (When my colleague send a message to nanog(a)merit.edu, his message is not published on the list. He don't get errors and he subscribed to nanog and nanog-post.) -----Forwarded Message----- From: Mike CHENEY <mike.cheney(a)ndsoftware.net> To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: EuroNOG (European Network Operators Group) Date: 04 Feb 2003 00:18:41 +0100 Hi folks, For european people, there is now a group called EuroNOG with about the same goals as Nanog. For more information: http://www.euronog.org/ For subscribe to EuroNOG mailing-list, send a mail to euronog-subscribe(a)ml.euronog.org. Regards, Mike Note: message resent because not received by the list. -----Forwarded Message----- Best Regards, -- Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware

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AADS Website
by Andre Chapuis 07 Feb '03

07 Feb '03

Hi there, www.aads.net lost its Internet connectivity some weeks ago, and is unaccessible. As an AADS customer, i asked for a peering with AS10764 to have access to the website, what seems me to be part of the AADS service, but they did not accept. Anybody else experiencing problems with AADS ? Cheers, André --------------------- Andre Chapuis IP+ Engineering Swisscom Ltd Genfergasse 14 3050 Bern +41 31 893 89 61 chapuis(a)ip-plus.net CCIE #6023 ----------------------

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 07 Feb '03

07 Feb '03

This report has been generated at Fri Feb 7 21:46:10 2003 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 31-01-03 118463 85095 01-02-03 118556 85054 02-02-03 118567 85128 03-02-03 118587 85148 04-02-03 118588 85028 05-02-03 118502 85128 06-02-03 118561 85108 07-02-03 118526 85124 AS Summary 14519 Number of ASes in routing system 5722 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 1584 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS701 : ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 72916992 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS568 : SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 07Feb03 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 118612 85169 33443 28.2% All ASes AS3908 1058 579 479 45.3% SUPERNETASBLK SuperNet, Inc. AS18566 457 7 450 98.5% COVAD Covad Communications AS701 1584 1171 413 26.1% ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS7018 1433 1041 392 27.4% ATT-INTERNET4 AT&T WorldNet Services AS4323 528 170 358 67.8% TW-COMM Time Warner Communications, Inc. AS6197 472 154 318 67.4% BATI-ATL BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS7843 568 253 315 55.5% ADELPHIA-AS Adelphia Corp. AS1221 1133 829 304 26.8% ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd AS1239 964 678 286 29.7% SPRINTLINK Sprint AS7046 563 280 283 50.3% UUNET-CUSTOMER UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS6347 367 85 282 76.8% DIAMOND SAVVIS Communications Corporation AS22927 295 14 281 95.3% AR-TEAR2-LACNIC TELEFONICA DE ARGENTINA AS4355 396 120 276 69.7% ERMS-EARTHLNK EARTHLINK, INC AS4151 345 71 274 79.4% USDA-1 USDA AS705 437 189 248 56.8% ASN-ALTERNET UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS4814 261 15 246 94.3% CHINANET-BEIJING-AP China Telecom (Group) AS852 680 444 236 34.7% ASN852 Telus Advanced Communications AS6198 432 201 231 53.5% BATI-MIA BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS1 665 435 230 34.6% GNTY-1 Genuity AS22291 238 31 207 87.0% CHARTER-LA Charter Communications AS17676 222 26 196 88.3% GIGAINFRA XTAGE CORPORATION AS209 532 341 191 35.9% ASN-QWEST Qwest AS690 498 308 190 38.2% MERIT-AS-27 Merit Network Inc. AS4134 301 117 184 61.1% ERX-CHINALINK Data Communications Bureau AS2386 437 263 174 39.8% INS-AS AT&T Data Communications Services AS2048 259 87 172 66.4% LANET-1 State of Louisiana AS17557 336 186 150 44.6% PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom AS6140 284 135 149 52.5% IMPSAT-USA ImpSat AS6327 186 40 146 78.5% SHAWFIBER Shaw Fiberlink Limited AS11492 307 164 143 46.6% CABLEONE CABLE ONE Total 16238 8434 7804 48.1% Top 30 total Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)lists.apnic.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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Outage: 400,000 subscribers in Puerto Rico
by Sean Donelan 07 Feb '03

07 Feb '03

The Associated Press is reporting that 400,000 Telefonica de Puerto Rico subscribers lost long-distance telephone service due to possible sabotage.

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Odd DNS responses for www.neopets.com
by Stephen Milton 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Maybe it's just me, but isn't there something odd about a DNS query coming back with 78 entries for the same host? It sends back an UDP packet that gets truncated and the DNS resolver reverts to TCP to get the full list. It seems to cause problems with Windows clients and/or Windows DNS servers. Seems like overkill. Here is a dig on www.neopets.com: ;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode. ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> www.neopets.com @ns2.neopets.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34814 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 78, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.neopets.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.neopets.com. 1582 IN A 198.172.122.97 www.neopets.com. 1582 IN A 198.172.122.98 www.neopets.com. 1582 IN A 198.172.122.101 ... many lines deleted ... www.neopets.com. 1582 IN A 198.172.122.194 www.neopets.com. 1582 IN A 198.172.122.196 www.neopets.com. 1582 IN A 198.172.122.197 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: neopets.com. 2434 IN NS ns1.neopets.com. neopets.com. 2434 IN NS ns2.neopets.com. ;; Query time: 53 msec ;; SERVER: 198.172.121.14#53(ns2.neopets.com) ;; WHEN: Wed Feb 5 16:42:45 2003 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 1349 -- Stephen Milton - Vice President (425) 881-8769 x102 ISOMEDIA.COM - Premium Internet Services (425) 869-9437 Fax milton(a)isomedia.com http://www.isomedia.com

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Re: Cascading Failures Could Crash the Global Internet
by Danny McPherson 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

RFC 3439 talks of coupling & amplification and it's relation to the Internet. -danny > > > Sigh, there are differences between tightly coupled networks, such as > the electric power grid and loosely couple networks like the Internet. > But there are also some similarities, such as electric grids use DC > interconnections to limit how far AC disturbances propagate; the > Internet uses AS interconnections to limit IGP disturbances from > propagating. > > http://sci.newsfactor.com/perl/story/20686.html > > The actual article requires payment to read > http://ojps.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=PLEEE800006… >

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Feds pull suspicious .gov site
by blitz 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

> > >Forwarded from: William Knowles <wk(a)c4i.org> > >http://news.com.com/2100-1023-983384.html > >By Declan McCullagh >Staff Writer, CNET News.com >February 5, 2003 > >WASHINGTON--In a move that raises questions about the security of >governmental domains, the Bush administration has pulled the plug on a >.gov Web site pending an investigation into the authenticity of the >organization that controlled it. > >Until recently, visitors to the AONN.gov Web site were treated to a >smorgasbord of information about an agency calling itself the Access >One Network Northwest (AONN), a self-described cyberwarfare unit >claiming to employ more than 2,000 people and had the support of the >U.S. Department of Defense. > >No federal agency called AONN appears to exist, and no agency with >that name is on the official list of organizations maintained by the >U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology. > >The General Services Administration (GSA), which runs the .gov >registry, pulled the domain on Jan. 24, after a query from CNET >News.com. > >"There are questions about the authenticity of the Web site that >includes the AONN name," the agency said in an e-mail reply. "Until >the situation is resolved, we have eliminated the URL from the .gov >directory name server." > >The action could point to the first case of a .gov domain name >hijacking. > >The GSA investigation raises questions about the integrity of federal >Web sites at a time when the Bush administration is touting electronic >government initiatives. President Bush signed the E-Government Act of >2002 in December, and the IRS in January began a program to encourage >Americans to file their taxes electronically. > >Cybersquatting, or registering a domain to which you may not be >entitled, is hardly uncommon among the multitude of .com and .net >domains. In 1999, President Bill Clinton signed an anticybersquatting >law, and an alternate process through which domain names can be >challenged has resulted in more than 11,000 domain names being >transferred away from the parties who had registered them. > >But there are no known cybersquatting incidents involving a >governmental domain, according to the GSA. "I'm not aware of any >incident" in the past when an unapproved individual has gained control >of a .gov domain name, an agency representative said. > >Chris Casey, who in 1995 helped to create Congress' first Web sites >and now runs a Web design company called Casey.com, says he was >surprised to hear that AONN had apparently secured a .gov name, and >said a misappropriated .gov domain could create confusion among Web >users. > >"I'm not aware of it ever happening before," Casey said. ".gov, .edu >and .mil carry a feeling of trustworthiness...People have learned to >place more faith in them." > >AONN's background > >Claiming credit for the deleted .gov site is a man who calls himself >Robert L. Taylor III, whose name and contact information appeared in >documents on the AONN.gov site. > >Taylor, who appears to reside near Everett, Wash., declined to explain >how, exactly, he secured a .gov domain for the group, calling AONN's >operations "classified." > >"We have exploited a security hole in the bureaucracy," Taylor said in >a telephone interview. "There are loopholes, there are security holes, >there are holes in the system." > >On its now-deleted site, AONN contended its "U.S. Defense Security >Intelligence Network" (DSIN) was launched at Harvard University's John >F. Kennedy School of Government last year, but Doug Gavel, the Kennedy >School's communications director, says he's not aware of any such >program. Similarly, AONN said its champion in Congress is Rep. Jay >Inslee, D-Wash., whose office categorically denies it. A Senate Budget >Committee representative said he had never heard of AONN. > >A Pentagon representative also said that AONN has no affiliation with >the U.S. military and he had no knowledge of the organization. > >It's unclear when the site was first registered or how Taylor may have >taken control of a .gov domain. According to the official .gov >registration rules, only organizations that appear in an official list >of government agencies qualify for a .gov domain--and AONN is not on >it. If AONN were a legitimate Defense Department agency, it would have >to register a .mil--rather than a .gov--domain name. > >One loophole exists for city and state governments, which were allowed >to register .gov domains before the current rules took effect in May >1997. Such registrations are no longer permitted. But local and state >governments with existing sites, such as the state of California's >ca.gov, were allowed to keep them. > >Registering a .gov domain name involves writing an authorization >letter--two samples are provided on the GSA Web site--printing it out, >and then sending it to the ".GOV Domain Manager" in Reston, Va. The >GSA would not comment on what security measures were in place, and >what changes, if any, have been made. > >The GSA's safeguards don't provide foolproof security, says Adrian >Lamo, a hacker and social engineer who claims to have penetrated >computer systems run by The New York Times and a string of other >corporations. > >"The process isn't intended to stop anyone who isn't going to be >stopped by the need to go to Kinko's, print out some letterhead and >then send an honest-to-God postal letter," Lamo said. "It'll stop the >people that are willing to break any rule, as long as they can fill >out a Web form to do it. And that eliminates 95 percent of pranks." > >If someone expressed interest in AONN, Taylor would send them a >122-page PDF file containing buzzwords such as "computer intrusion >teams, "beyond state-of-the-art super computing... next level >broad-range security systems, cyber warfighting, highly advanced >satellite technologies and nano-technologies." It described AONN as a >"joint-counterstrike force (that) possesses such a culmination of some >of the world's brightest and most brilliant intellect, intelligentsia, >academicians and minds, it can quite easily be said that the AONN DSI >concept by itself is worth multibillions." > >A notice on AONN.gov offered to "split payment on contract >disbursements" with its fund-raisers. Taylor also offered this deal to >potential buyers: "You come up with fifty million dollars and we'll >sign contracts as well as deliver both human assets and the DSIN >program." > >Taylor would not say if he had collected any money from corporations >and individuals as a result of these offers. > >Besides claiming to be a military intelligence agency, AONN also said >it has an "emerging and expensive clothing line" and an urban and R&B >record label that has signed "certified platinum artists." In November >2000, a company named AONN Records released a CD called November 12 >Projekt that a local newspaper described as a collaboration of "two >ambitious young rappers." > >Taylor said that that AONN.gov and AONN Records are the same. > >No company named AONN Records or Access One Network Northwest is >listed with directory assistance, and the Washington state government >has no record of a company with either name being incorporated. > >AONN Records' CD release appears to have been distributed by The >Orchard, which provides a vehicle for independent musicians to sell to >online stores such as Amazon.com and CDNow.com. The Orchard could not >locate AONN Records or Robert Taylor in its files. A representative >said that would be the case if The Orchard no longer carried the >November 12 Projekt CD. > >One document Taylor distributed from his Hotmail account this week, >called a "Special Projects Dossier," lists excerpts from job >applications apparently sent to him by intelligence officers seeking >employment. > >"Some have suggested it is a spoof by a rock group who has misused the >aonn.com and aonn.gov registrations," a representative for the >Association of Former Intelligence Officers said this week. "How they >obtained the (top-level domain) of .gov is baffling and shows a flaw >in the registration system that could create greater mischief in other >hands."

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South Asian Network Operators Group (SANOG) mailing list
by Joe Abley 05 Feb '03

05 Feb '03

[apologies if you get two copies of this; the first one didn't seem to go out for some reason] The South Asian Network Operators Group (SANOG) held their first meeting in Kathmandu, Nepal, a few weeks ago. By any standards the meeting was a great success, and plans are already being made for another one. A mailing list for discussing operational issues in South Asia has now been set up. Those on the NANOG list who are interested in finding out about (and assisting with) the development of infrastructure in other regions might like to subscribe. To subscribe to the SANOG list, send mail to sanog-request(a)sanog.org with the word "subscribe" in the subject or the body of the message. > SANOG - South Asian Network Operators Group > > As data networks has grown around the world, we are taking the > initiative for a South Asian Network Operators Group (SANOG). This is > in line with established practices like NANOG in North America, RIPE > NCC Meetings in Europe and APRICOT in Asia. The meeting will provide a > regional forum to discuss operational issues and technologies closer > home for data operators in the South Asian Region. > > SANOG I, held in Nepal was a success, and SANOG II will be held in Sri > Lanka, dates for which will be announced in early March. > > SANOG I > > SANOG I, the first meeting of the group took place in Kathmandu, > Nepal, on 23-28 January, 2003. To make the organization easier, the > first meeting was held in conjuction with the CAN IT Conference 2003, > which is a national IT conference organzied by Computer Association of > Nepal since 2001. The themes for this year's conference included > operational technologies as an inherent part, to facilitate the > organization of SANOG I. > > The agenda for the first meeting of SANOG was to establish the > procedure for future meetings and gathering a consensus for such a > group. Apart from the meeting itself, during the six day event, there > were tutorials and talk on current and future operational > technologies. > > To post to the SANOG mailing list, please email sanog(a)sanog.org. If > you wish to get the list in digest form (i.e. all the messages over > the past 24 hours), send a email to sanog-request(a)sanog.org with the > subject of "set digest"

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Need operational experience re several pieces of equipment
by Timothy R. McKee 05 Feb '03

05 Feb '03

Please reply off-list, I will summarize if there is any interest. I have a client that is looking to use an inexpensive FastEthernet over DS3 bridge solution for one of their clients. I quickly located two bridges/switches that do this, a) RAD's RIC-T3/ETH and b) DS3SWITCH.COM's line. Do any of you have any operational/reliability comments on either of these boxes or do you know of any other boxes that I didn't find that perform this function? Again, please reply off-list. Many thanks for you time and trouble, Tim McKee

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Average Based Billing
by Lynn Bashaw 05 Feb '03

05 Feb '03

All, Thanks for your comments. There were a couple of instances of an average based billing scheme, but for the most part the comments did not indicate this to be a wide-spread practice. I was interested in the question due to a claim by a potential customer that billing on their current transit links with some other carriers was based on average utilization (specific definition undefined) rather than billing based on a 95th percentile value of some set of samples. I had not heard of this trend and wanted make sure I wasn't missing anything. Thanks again for the feedback and insight. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Bashaw Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:35 AM To: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' Subject: Does anyone on the list know of any ISPs that bill based on average utilization, rather than some variation of 95th percentile? Thanks Lynn Bashaw Director, Network Engineering Yipes Enterprise Services 2000 S. Colorado Blvd. Denver, CO 80222

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