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AT&T oddities tonight?
by Bulger, Tim 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

Has anyone else noticed any ususal oddities in AS7018 over the last half hour or so? I saw BGP advertisements flap en masse and we are still experiencing strange connectivity issues that reek of inconsistent CEF tables.. Their NOC claims there are no problems. Tracing the route to 159.153.226.19 1 12.119.156.21 [AS 7018] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 gbr1-p30.auttx.ip.att.net (12.123.133.54) [AS 7018] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 3 * * * 4 tbr2-p013701.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.10.90) [AS 7018] 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec 5 * * * 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 * * * Tracing the route to 159.153.226.20 1 12.119.156.21 [AS 7018] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 2 gbr1-p30.auttx.ip.att.net (12.123.133.54) [AS 7018] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 3 * * * 4 tbr2-p013701.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.10.90) [AS 7018] 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec 5 tbr1-p012401.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.9.141) [AS 7018] 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec 6 tbr1-p012401.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.122.10.65) [AS 7018] 36 msec 36 msec 36 msec 7 gbr5-p10.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.122.11.170) [AS 7018] 36 msec 36 msec 36 msec 8 gar3-p360.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.123.9.65) [AS 7018] 36 msec 36 msec 36 msec 9 gar1-p371.abnva.ip.att.net (12.123.217.2) [AS 7018] 40 msec 40 msec 36 msec 10 12.119.141.58 [AS 7018] 40 msec 36 msec 40 msec 11 159.153.224.218 [AS 7018] 36 msec 36 msec 36 msec Regards, Tim Bulger Senior Network Engineer Electronic Arts

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DWDM interconnects
by Pete Kruckenberg 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

How common are DWDM interconnects between networks (carriers)? Is DWDM considered a reliable/scalable/operable carrier interconnection technology? Is multi-vendor DWDM (whether internal to the network or for carrier interconnection) practical or sensible, especially for carrier/network interconnection? Many vendors proclaim interoperability, but does that work in the real world? Pete.

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RE: MSN Messenger
by Mark Segal 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

No I think the 60,000 people on nanog, just followed the link :). mark -- Mark Segal Director, Data Services Futureway Communications Inc. Tel: (905)326-1570 > -----Original Message----- > From: Petri Helenius [mailto:pete@he.iki.fi] > Sent: January 6, 2003 11:56 AM > To: Mark Segal; 'David Diaz'; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: MSN Messenger > > > > > > > > Service status is available at > > http://messenger.microsoft.com/support/status.asp > > > > But according to the page all is fine.. Which is NOT the case here > > either. > > > Here it gives: > > HTTP Error 500-13 - Server too busy > Internet Information Services > > Which is probably caused by quite a few people trying to pull > the information why their messenger does not work. > > Maybe it´s too early at Redmond. > > Pete >

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RE: MSN Messenger
by Mark Segal 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Btw, it seems to be back up (at least for the last 30 min). Mark -- Mark Segal Director, Data Services Futureway Communications Inc. Tel: (905)326-1570 > -----Original Message----- > From: Avleen Vig [mailto:lists-nanog@silverwraith.com] > Sent: January 6, 2003 3:33 PM > To: Mark Segal > Cc: 'Petri Helenius'; 'David Diaz'; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: RE: MSN Messenger > > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Mark Segal wrote: > > > No I think the 60,000 people on nanog, just followed the link :). > > slash-nanogged? >

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Re: COM/NET informational message
by Joel Rowbottom 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

At 11:04 04/01/2003 +0100, Måns Nilsson wrote: >This (ie. IDN) has been discussed (and finally decided) in the IETF IDN wg >for AGES now. If you are so concerned, why did you not engage yourself >there? It is no secret what has been decided there. I agree, Måns. For the first time in a very very very very long time, I actually think this is a Good Idea. It's a transition to the new work which, albeit early, was bound to happen. IMHO, a simple IDN solution which deals with many accents and characters in common use is a very valuable step along the way to IDN and the community should view this with an open mind. Especially bearing in mind the complexities and the very long timescales associated with the proposed full-Unicode alternative. >Keep in mind that they are not breaking standards, they are extending one >application. Absolutely. I've tested their system with a couple of platforms, and it seems to cope with IE on both PC and Mac. I haven't tried it on any Unix-based systems yet, but I wouldn't expect it to work since both Mozilla and Netscape don't seem to like it. However, I'd certainly have appreciated a lot more time to digest what they're doing rather than having a press release foisted on the world as a "done thing". >The other, earlier attempts to do things like this (especially NuNames) >have been way more rogue than this. NuNames and new.net are the first which spring to mind. Most require plug-ins though. Best regards j -- Joel Rowbottom, http://www.centralnic.com - CTO and self-confessed Unix geek <t> +44 (0)20 7751 9000 <f> +44 (0)20 7736 9253 <e> joel(a)centralnic.com # Note: Contents may not necessarily represent the opinions of CentralNic.

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RE: MSN Messenger
by Mark Segal 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Service status is available at http://messenger.microsoft.com/support/status.asp But according to the page all is fine.. Which is NOT the case here either. Mark -- Mark Segal Director, Data Services Futureway Communications Inc. Tel: (905)326-1570 > -----Original Message----- > From: David Diaz [mailto:techlist@smoton.net] > Sent: January 6, 2003 11:41 AM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: MSN Messenger > > > > Morning all, > > Is anyone else seeing MSN messenger issues? I had verification from > a few people that they started seeing problems this morning. At first > the messages seemed to be of a server not found message, now it's > server error. I didnt see anything on MSN's site. > > Does anyone know of a maint page they have? > > Thought this also might be helpful to any ISPs with a large > amount of users. > > David > -- > > David Diaz > dave(a)smoton.net [Email] > pagedave(a)smoton.net [Pager] > www.smoton.net [Peering Site under development] > Smotons (Smart Photons) trump dumb photons > >

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FW: Please stop sending me emails
by Mark Segal 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

What kinda of moron sets up a spam filter agains emails from nanog. You might want to fix that. mark -- Mark Segal Director, Data Services Futureway Communications Inc. Tel: (905)326-1570 -----Original Message----- From: Allen Erkman [mailto:allen@aerkman.com] Sent: January 6, 2003 11:50 AM To: MSegal(a)FUTUREWAY.CA Subject: Please stop sending me emails **** THIS IS AN AUTOMATIC REPLY **** Your e-mail message to me (see below) was not delivered. I am no longer accepting mail from your address. This extreme measure was most likely taken in response to unsolicited or unwanted e-mail from you. If you were attempting to market a commercial product or service to me, then please note that I am absolutely not interested in it. I take a dim view of any form of UCE, and on principle refuse to patronize any business that resorts to this tactic. This email account is protected by: Active Spam Killer (ASK) V2.2 - (C) 2001-2002 by Marco Paganini For more information visit http://www.paganini.net/ask --- Original Message Follows --- From: Mark Segal <MSegal(a)FUTUREWAY.CA> To: "'David Diaz'" <techlist(a)smoton.net>, Subject: RE: MSN Messenger Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:49:19 -0500 Service status is available at http://messenger.microsoft.com/support/status.asp But according to the page all is fine.. Which is NOT the case here either. Mark -- Mark Segal Director, Data Services Futureway Communications Inc. Tel: (905)326-1570 > -----Original Message----- > From: David Diaz [mailto:techlist@smoton.net] > Sent: January 6, 2003 11:41 AM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: MSN Messenger > > > > Morning all, > > Is anyone else seeing MSN messenger issues? I had verification from > a few people that they started seeing problems this morning. At first > the messages seemed to be of a server not found message, now it's > server error. I didnt see anything on MSN's site. > > Does anyone know of a maint page they have? > > Thought this also might be helpful to any ISPs with a large > amount of users. > > David > -- > > David Diaz > dave(a)smoton.net [Email] > pagedave(a)smoton.net [Pager] > www.smoton.net [Peering Site under development] > Smotons (Smart Photons) trump dumb photons > >

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Juniper M5/M10 Midplane problems ??
by john＠chagresventures.com 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Been looking at a M5/M10 box and have noticed its not real easy (unless I'm blind) to replace the mid-plane. Thus I'm wondering what people in the field have experienced with respect to mid-plane failures. 1. Bent or broken pins on the PIC side 2. Circuit failures My eval of this product is for a client and their infrastructure needs. Other bits of learned wisdom also excepted and encouraged :) Thanks john brown

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AT&T Contact
by Mike Moglin 05 Jan '03

05 Jan '03

If anyone has a contact at AT&T Security, could you contact me off list please. Thanks.

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Ameritech Security POC
by Richard Forno 05 Jan '03

05 Jan '03

Hi all - happy new year! Does anyone have a POC at Ameritech Security, particularly their abuse desk? Replies off line apprecited. Rick Infowarrior.org

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