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Hotel in Seattle area w- internet access ?
by joe mcguckin 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

I'm leaving for Seattle this evening. Can anyone recommend a hotel that has internet access in the rooms? Thanks, joe

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RE: Hotel in Seattle area w- internet access ?
by Mansey, Jon 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

Not listed at GeekTels, I used broadband at the W in Seattle one time, nice. Jm > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Nelson [mailto:jnelson@rackspace.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:36 AM > To: Bill Woodcock; joe mcguckin > Cc: NANOG > Subject: Re: Hotel in Seattle area w- internet access ? > > > > > This is the 'classic' list: http://www.geektools.com/geektels/ > (worldwide)... but call to confirm. I've stayed at the Four > Seasons and was pleased with everything but the price. > > "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you > send." --Jon Postel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Woodcock" <woody(a)zocalo.net> > To: "joe mcguckin" <joe(a)via.net> > Cc: "NANOG" <nanog(a)merit.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:28 PM > Subject: Re: Hotel in Seattle area w- internet access ? > > > > > > > I'm leaving for Seattle this evening. Can anyone recommend a > > hotel > that has > > > internet access in the rooms? > > > > > http://www.geektools.com/geektels/showhotels.php?country=USA&s tate=Washingto n&city=Seattle > > -Bill > >

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RE: Sprint peering policy
by Mitchell, Dan 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

Alex, *I* can't make any claims, since that would be making a forward-looking statement, y'know... and after today's WorldCom "events", I can hardly say that trusting analysts is a good thing, but if you take the time to do some research on ALGX, you'll probably see things like: consistency in meeting Wall St. expectations, a stong management team (after all, they *did* build MFS), and a conservative balance sheet. We're talking about some experienced, reputable good ol' boys who know enough only acquire profitable businesses for pennies on the dollar, and only build from success-based capital. If you take a good, hard look at the company as a whole, you'll see a company that has yet to deviate from its original plan, regardless of economic climate, and will tell you is still on target for profitability. These are all things I've learned from my own due dilligence via research on the web, and I'm sure you'll find the same. -Dan -----Original Message----- From: alex(a)yuriev.com [mailto:alex@yuriev.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:08 PM To: Mitchell, Dan Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: Sprint peering policy > But that's just what I've "heard". > > On a side note: Folks should keep an eye on Allegiance Internet (the folks > I work for). They picked up the old Digex / Intermedia Business Internet > backbone and are in the process of integrating it (under AS2548). > Financially solid company, very easy to work with, and have some strong > uptimes. On what basis do you claim that Allegiance Internet is going to be in business by end of the summer? Alex

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RE: Sprint peering policy
by Mitchell, Dan 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

RE: Majdi -- I just wanted to thoroughly address Alex's question. Besides, Allegiance *has* to make it, because I certainly can't go get a job at WCom anymore, can I? :-) dem -----Original Message----- From: Majdi S. Abbas [mailto:msa@samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:48 PM To: Mitchell, Dan Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Sprint peering policy On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 02:34:42PM -0400, Mitchell, Dan wrote: > a strong management team (after all, they *did* build MFS) ^ `- I think you have mistaken this for an endorsement. And in the age of cooked books, stated revenue can be misleading, particularly when it looks too good to be true. I would be very wary of anyone in this business right now, particularly a CLEC. Regardless, I don't think shameless corporate plugs really belong on NANOG, but I'll allow that perhaps I am in the minority. --msa

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RE: how is cold-potato done?
by Gustavus, Wayne 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

Ultimately there won't be any ties, since BGP will eventually have to select a best path. If necessary, the decision will come down to RID. If the metrics really are the same then theoretically it doesn't matter which path it takes. If it does matter, you will have to modify your policy to make a decision based on some other criteria that you are also influencing via policy. ___________________________________________________________ Wayne Gustavus, CCIE #7426 Operations Engineering Verizon Internet Services ___________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Doncaster [mailto:ralph@istop.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:08 PM To: Jared Mauch Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: how is cold-potato done? > > If I peer with network X in cities A and B, and receive the same route in > > both cities with an AS-path of X, how do I know which city to use for an > > exit? I can understand how if X uses communities to tag the geographic > > origin of the traffic, but I'm not aware of many networks that do > > this. Lots of networks claim to use cold-potato routing though, so how do > > they do it? > > they use the MED sent on the route (aka metric) from the > other provider to determine which exit where they both interconnect > is the "shortest". > > this can at times provide undesired results because of > aggregation. Besides aggregation, wouldn't this lead to a lot of ties? Let's say the cities are LA & Manhattan, and the route from X originates in Chicago. I would think that it would be a common occurrance for the route to have the same metric in LA & Manhattan. -Ralph

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RE: Big meetings should never be held at noon!
by Gustavus, Wayne 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

Jane, Couldn't you just use a full BGP feed from a provider and configure your inbound route-map/policy with the necessary parameters to obtain the part of the BGP table that you want? Or if this is just to populate something in a lab with a specific set of BGP info, you could obtain a copy of the table from someplace like route-views and load up the lab router or MRT (or equiv) in the lab and massage the table data within the lab. If this is for a customer/production router, I suppose you could coordinate with the upstream provider to do something similar with their outbound route-map/policy so that you only get a partial table. ___________________________________________________________ Wayne Gustavus, CCIE #7426 Operations Engineering Verizon Internet Services ___________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Pawlukiewicz Jane [mailto:pawlukiewicz_jane@bah.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:54 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Big meetings should never be held at noon! Hi, We ran out of time. Anyway, question for the best network operators in America, and beyond. Is there a way to download _part_ of a BGP table from a router? Can I use something like logic, sql to download just a piece, a specific piece of the BGP table? I can't believe this is impossible... Thanks for any help on this, Jane

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GT files for CCAA
by Mark Segal 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

For those of you that attended NANOG 25 in Toronto, the Host GT (Group Telecom) just filed for CCAA (Canadian version of Chapter 11). http://www.newswire.ca/releases/June2002/26/c0199.html Just the messenger no need to shoot me.. :). Regards, Mark

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RE: Fwd: WorldCom Investor News: WorldCom Announces IntentiontoRe state 2001 and First Quarter 2002 Financial Statements
by Rowland, Alan D 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

RoadRunner is also involved in supplying TWC service (Time Warner Cable). As a former RoadRunner then MediaOne then ATTBI customer, I believe RoadRunner best fits as a sort of Covad in Cable land. Just my WAG (Wild Axx Guess) Best, Al -----Original Message----- From: Pawlukiewicz Jane [mailto:pawlukiewicz_jane@bah.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:53 AM To: Andy Warner; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: WorldCom Investor News: WorldCom Announces IntentiontoRestate 2001 and First Quarter 2002 Financial Statements Andy Warner wrote: > > Neither WCOM, nor T owns Cox. Cox is independent. T recently acquired > Comcast which may be the source of your confusion. I am always confused. No, I think the source of my confusion is RoadRunner. Its all over their website, and that's a AT&T name. isn't it? at least it was... Jane > > -- > Andy Warner > > On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Pawlukiewicz Jane wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > dumb question. Does WCOM own Cox? Or is that AT&T? > > > > Just curious. > > > > Jane > > <snip>

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Testing Bandwidth performance
by Alan Sato 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

What are some tools to test bandwidth perfomance? I've used iperf, but are there other tools or ways to generate traffic for testing purposes to see a links maximum capacity? Especially greater than a 100mb. Alan

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How low can Worldcom stock go?
by Eric Germann 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

Any bets where they will bottom out at? Lets see if they can beat Adelphia at $0.05 on 6/21/02 ---- >From WSJ Tech alerts. WORLDCOM UNCOVERED what appears to be one of the largest corporate frauds in history with the discovery of more than $3 billion in expenses that were improperly booked as capital expenditures. For more information, see: http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB1025044139757626480,00.html ========================================================================== Eric Germann CCTec ekgermann(a)cctec.com Van Wert OH 45801 http://www.cctec.com Ph: 419 968 2640 Fax: 603 825 5893 "The fact that there are actually ways of knowing and characterizing the extent of one’s ignorance, while still remaining ignorant, may ultimately be more interesting and useful to people than Yarkovsky" -- Jon Giorgini of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory

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