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how to register as a student for June 9-11?
by Dave Caley 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

Hello list, i am a student living in Toronto and i would like to attend the upcoming meeting for educational purposes. i read that students can waive the registration fee if you live in the host city or pay $100. i cant find any info on where to state that i am a student on the registration webpage. can anyone suggest how i should go about signing up as a student. Thanks, Dave _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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NANOG 25 Registration & Meeting Information
by Carol Wadsworth 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

Registration is now open for the *25th* Meeting of the North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG). The meeting will be held June 9-11 at the Sheraton Parkway Toronto North in Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada. NANOG 25 will be hosted by Group Telecom. Meeting Information: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0206 Online Registration Form: https://www.merit.edu/nanog/registration.form.html Hotel Information (special rate expires May 18): http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0206/hotel.html Call for Presentations (deadline April 29): http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0206/call25.html Hope to see you there!

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Cross Connect Cost at Exchange point
by Mark Radabaugh 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

What is the range of pricing for rack to rack Ethernet crossconnects at a peering location? This would be from a colocation rack to a (small local) public peering point within the building. Private replies please - I will summarize for the list. Thanks,

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AOL's email hell.. (the URL Story)
by Alan Clegg 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

Ok Ok Ok, yes. The http://www.mailinglists.org/aol link *DID* return what was supposed to be interpreted as html. In my rush to make everybody happy (and quit sending me mail about how I should fix my server), I made the link unavailable for about 15 seconds. It is working now, and should actually be "correct" for those that care to look at it. ;) AlanC

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netsol whois working again
by Michael Klosterman 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

Thanks everyone. They must've been wokring on it over the weekend. Couldn't get to it since Sat. morning... It's back now. traceroute whois.networksolutions.com traceroute to whois.networksolutions.com (216.168.229.1), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 R1-Fa-0-0-Internet (208.164.248.1) 1.300 ms 1.005 ms 1.123 ms 2 bar3-serial4-0-0-11-0.Minneapolis.cw.net (208.175.56.129) 14.517 ms bar3-serial4-0-0-10-0.Minneapolis.cw.net (208.175.56.125) 14.353 ms 9.264 ms 3 acr1.Minneapolis.cw.net (208.174.2.61) 13.029 ms 13.111 ms 13.393 ms 4 acr1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.61) 42.270 ms 44.253 ms 53.383 ms 5 bar1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.3) 40.937 ms 45.782 ms 44.232 ms 6 network-solutions-inc.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.181.134) 46.794 ms 47.360 ms 57.257 ms 7 * whois.networksolutions.com (216.168.229.1) 47.705 ms 54.705 ms

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netsol whois down
by Michael Klosterman 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

I missed the announcement on this. Any idea when the network solutions whois will be back up? It's been down all weekend.... bash-2.05a$ traceroute whois.networksolutions.com traceroute to whois.networksolutions.com (216.168.229.1), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 R1-Fa-0-0-Internet (208.164.248.1) 1.116 ms * 1.485 ms 2 bar3-serial4-0-0-8-0.Minneapolis.cw.net (208.175.56.117) 15.070 ms bar3-serial4-0-0-7-0.Minneapolis.cw.net (208.175.56.113) 12.731 ms 10.086 ms 3 acr1.Minneapolis.cw.net (208.174.2.61) 19.769 ms 14.112 ms 19.321 ms 4 acr1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.61) 48.940 ms 43.259 ms 44.385 ms 5 bar1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.3) 41.228 ms 44.428 ms 47.349 ms 6 network-solutions-inc.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.181.134) 217.002 ms 44.750 ms 45.792 ms 7 216.168.224.3 (216.168.224.3) 49.386 ms 47.508 ms 46.253 ms 8 216.168.224.6 (216.168.224.6) 54.537 ms 49.731 ms 51.593 ms 9 216.168.224.3 (216.168.224.3) 42.160 ms 43.621 ms 55.701 ms 10 216.168.224.6 (216.168.224.6) 51.765 ms 52.268 ms 43.768 ms etc., etc. Thank you. - michael -- Michael Klosterman Swiftel

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Re: bulk email
by Steven M. Bellovin 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

In message <4738cuobuatfc6l3hn98n41u2b4fbqflr1(a)4ax.com>, Lionel writes: > >On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:53:58 +0100, James Cronin <james(a)unfortu.net> >wrote: > >[opt-in bulk email] >>Has anyone ever actually come across such a contract in real life >>or are they just urban myths? > >Urban myth. >If you make damn sure that you clearly mark your bulk mail with the >website/organisation at which your user subscibed, & you record the >*way* they subscribed[0], you should be fine. It's also vitally >important that you respond promptly to email that arrives at your >domain's 'abuse@' address. > >[0] Eg: IP address & time stamp from when they hit the 'subscribe me' >button on a web form, copy of the signed paper form they sent in, etc. See http://www.cctec.com/maillists/nanog/historical/0104/msg00718.html for a NANOG post -- and a link -- on the subject. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb Full text of "Firewalls" book now at http://www.wilyhacker.com

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First stable version (0.1-final) of DoS detection software
by Constantinos A. Kotsokalis 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

Hello all, the Panoptis software to detect DoS/DDoS attacks with input from Cisco Netflow has reached version 0.1 final. This is the first stable version! You can download it at: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/panoptis/panoptis-0.1.tar.gz Best, Costas -- Constantinos A. Kotsokalis || ckotso(a)grnet.gr Greek Research and Technology Network Tel: +30 10 7474243 || Fax: +30 10 7474490

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[OT]Microsoft makes networked software 'illegal' on XP unless you pay them...
by Bruce Williams 21 Apr '02

21 Apr '02

From http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/03/18/020318oplivingston.xml Microsoft's XP license agreement says, "Except as otherwise permitted by the NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop features described below, you may not use the Product to permit any Device to use, access, display, or run other executable software residing on the Workstation Computer, nor may you permit any Device to use, access, display, or run the Product or Product's user interface, unless the Device has a separate license for the Product." I guess this improves security.... bye, Bruce Williams "Asking the wrong questions is the leading cause of wrong answers"

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NANOG 25 and Diamond Aircraft (warning! non-operational content)
by Joe Abley 21 Apr '02

21 Apr '02

For those private pilots planning to attend the meeting in Richmond Hill, Diamond Aircraft are located about two hours (drive) away at CYXU. The popular DA20-C1 two-seat trainer is manufactured on the field, as is the new four-place DA40-180 which has received some glowing reviews recently (see http://www.diamondair.com/ for pretty pictures). If there's any interest in a tour of the facilities, I can give them a call and try to set something up. Note that I have no connection to Diamond other than the fact that I fly from CYXU and think that their planes are cool. Joe

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