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Verio as an DS3 upstream provider - comments?
by matthew zeier 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

I'm looking into possibly using Verio as an additional upstream provider. If you have any experience with Verio, can you give me any feedback on them? Thanks. - mz -- matthew zeier - "In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them." - Johann von Neumann

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Re: PacBell Security/Abuse contact
by Walter Prue 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Jeremy, We have been a T3 customer of PacBell for 3 years. We have had a few DOS attacks over the years which required intervention by our backbone providers which included PacBell. In every case their policy was to not help. They refered us to their abuse email address or phone number which promised to get back to us in 72 hours. In each case we involved our salesman who was wonderful! He intervened for us and bumped it up to upper management until we got what we needed. We ended up dropping PacBell in part because of their unwillingness to help during DOS attacks. Walt

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Transatlantic response times.
by Pistone, Mike 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

I wasn't really sure where to post this, but I figured NANOG would have some insight or at least experience here. I was curious if anybody would share what they consider to be average or acceptable transatlantic ping response times over a T1. I know there are tons of variables here, but I am looking for ballpark figures. Assume that utilization on the circuit is extremely low, and you are measuring point to point across the line. You can also assume no other bottlenecks effecting the response times (router performance, or what not). Should you see a ~150ms trip? 250ms? 450ms??? Also, if possible, include the to and from info. Obviously NYC to London is a bit different than Dallas to Prague or something. Is there any equation to estimate response times? For example, if your circuit from A to Z has a 500ms avg response, than that equates to a circuit distance of aprox. 5000 miles or something? Thanks in advance, Mike

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Re: Transatlantic response times.
by PETER JANSEN 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Mike: Our web site at http://sla.cw.net/ provides you with real time RTT measurements on our network. That should give you a good picture of typical large network response times. Regards Peter Jansen Global Peering Cable & Wireless Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Pistone, Mike" <Mike.Pistone(a)msfc.nasa.gov> To: "'nanog(a)merit.edu'" <nanog(a)merit.edu> Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog-outgoing(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Transatlantic response times. I wasn't really sure where to post this, but I figured NANOG would have some insight or at least experience here. I was curious if anybody would share what they consider to be average or acceptable transatlantic ping response times over a T1. I know there are tons of variables here, but I am looking for ballpark figures. Assume that utilization on the circuit is extremely low, and you are measuring point to point across the line. You can also assume no other bottlenecks effecting the response times (router performance, or what not). Should you see a ~150ms trip? 250ms? 450ms??? Also, if possible, include the to and from info. Obviously NYC to London is a bit different than Dallas to Prague or something. Is there any equation to estimate response times? For example, if your circuit from A to Z has a 500ms avg response, than that equates to a circuit distance of aprox. 5000 miles or something? Thanks in advance, Mike

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FWD: FC: Verisign reportedly sending deceptive domain registration bills (fwd)
by brett watson 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

in case anyone has experienced this and wants to complain... ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:57 AM -0500 From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: politech(a)politechbot.com Subject: FC: Verisign reportedly sending deceptive domain registration bills > > --- > > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:26:15 -0500 > To: declan(a)well.com > From: Peter Wayner <pcw(a)flyzone.com> > Subject: Fwd: A WARNING TO OUR CUSTOMERS > > [Another scandal mixing spam, the DNS tables and ICANN.--Peter] > > >> Date: 23 Mar 2002 00:07:10 -0000 >> To: pcw(a)flyzone.com >> From: service(a)godaddy.com >> Subject: A WARNING TO OUR CUSTOMERS >> >> Please be aware that Verisign, Inc. (formerly Network Solutions) is >> sending via the US Mail, what we believe to be deceptive and predatory >> domain expiration notices. >> The purpose behind these notices is to get the unsuspecting customer to >> transfer to and renew their domain name(s) with Verisign Inc. at >> significantly higher prices. >> >> The domain expiration notices are designed so that it is not obvious >> that the notices are from Verisign, Inc. as opposed to Go Daddy >> Software. To see a copy of one of these deceptive expiration notices, >> please go to the following URL: >> http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/private_vsrn.asp?display=letter. >> >> Those customers who fall prey to the Verisign, Inc. scheme will have >> their domain name(s) renewed at a price more than 3 times higher than >> would be the case if they renewed with Go Daddy Software. >> >> For a .com, .net or .org domain name renewal, the victimized customer >> would pay $29.00 to Verisign, Inc. instead of the $8.95 charged by Go >> Daddy Software. >> Those customers who fall prey to this scheme, will not receive any >> better service or value. They will however be tricked out of $20.05 >> per domain name. >> >> Renewal notices from Go Daddy Software are sent via email, and always >> mention the Go Daddy name. You can be sure that any communications you >> receive concerning your domain name that do not explicitly and obviously >> display the Go Daddy name are not from Go Daddy Software. >> >> If you believe, as we do, that this practice of Verisign Inc. is >> misleading, predatory and improper, we invite you to make your feelings >> known by writing to ICANN (who is the governing body for all Registrarís >> and Registries) and to Verisign Registry. Email links for both are >> provided below. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Bob Parsons, President >> Go Daddy Software, Inc. >> >> ICANN Registrar Complaint Form (hosted at InterNIC) >> http://www.internic.net/cgi/registrars/problem-report.cgi >> >> VeriSign Registry Customer Service >> info(a)verisign-grs.com >> Phone: 703-948-3200 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list > You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. > Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ > To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html > This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Politech dinner in SF on 4/16: http://www.politechbot.com/events/cfp2002/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- End Forwarded Message ----------

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One more reason to drop Network Solutions
by Stephane Bortzmeyer 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

This morning, when clicking on Help on their Web site: You are Here: Help -> Error Error We were unable to answer your question for the following reason: Compiled keyword file not found. Package at 'nsol' could not be loaded. Please contact webmaster(a)networksolutions.com. © Copyright 2002 VeriSign, Inc. All rights reserved.

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Yipes
by Allan Liska 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Hello, Almost a year ago Ralph Los asked the following: "2. They're not funded yet, and selling WAY below cost. Does this mean that a year from now they're going to triple their prices? worse?" Yesterday they declared bankruptcy: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/03/2… Ralph -- if you are still around, I hear Miss Cleo is hiring :). allan -- allan allan(a)allan.org http://www.allan.org

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RE: SNMP and BGP
by Adam Spann 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

Thanks to Everyone, The answers were excellent :) I have gone through the mib definition file, and as Anne said in her response, the information I was after is not stored in the mib, I was looking to be able to get the total number of routes from a given Peer from the Mib, in place of the 'show ip bgp sum' command, looks like I will be stuck with that till a new object is added to the Mib. STill now that I have the information, I will be able to do some other things using the mib which should be able to give me a lot more information. Thanks Everyone. Adam Spann.

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looking for GigE providers
by matthew zeier 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

I'm looking for GigE providers in southern California. If you have any recommendations, please let me know. Or any reasons I should stay away from GigE upstream access. thanks. -- matthew zeier - "In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them." - Johann von Neumann

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DNS-O.NET?
by John Palmer (NANOG Acct) 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Is anyone aware of the significance of the domain dns-o.net in China. I just registered this domain for another purpose and pointed it to an empty website for now and the log file is full of what appear to be requests for random URLs (mostly for banners .gifs, etc). I'm just curious if anyone knows the history of that domain. ---- AGN Domain Name Services, Inc http://www.adns.net Since 1995. The Registry for .AMERICA, .EARTH, .LION, .USA and .Z Define yourself or Be Defined. Censorship-free GA list at : http://dns-o.org/mailman/listinfo/ga

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