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Deutsche Telekom
by Alex Rubenstein 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

I've tried emailing (no response) and calling (I don't speak german) the dtag.de NOC, to find out some info. If anyone from dtag.de is listening, please feel free to respond to me vie private email (alex(a)nac.net) Thanks! -- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex(a)nac.net, latency, Al Reuben -- -- Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net --

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OT: Need a QWEST NOC contact please - contact off-list
by Rich Sena 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

-- Rich Sena - ras(a)thick.net ThickNET Consulting "On the way to understanding; you understand, and forget."

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Contact for Yahoo - Messenger service related
by Alexander Kiwerski 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

Howdy All- Does anyone have a contact at Yahoo in relation to the messenger service? (preferably someone with a clue about routers and IP filters) I've got an interesting little problem that appears everyday between 9:00 and 9:30 AM and vanishes about 5:00 pm (PST). Thanks in advance, /Alexander Kiwerski

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Open Peers at PAIX - Jan 2002
by Pete Ashdown 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

In honor of Verio depeering with my network at PAIX today, I present the latest Open Peers at PAIX list. This list is constructed off of submitted information to me in my experience of being a network at PAIX. If you have any corrections, additions, or omissions, please email me directly. Organization IP address AS# Email contact Vixie Enterprises 198.32.176.3 3557 ? AboveNet 198.32.176.11 6461 noc(a)above.net DSL.net Santa Cruz 198.32.176.13 4436 peering(a)dsl.net Exodus 198.32.176.15 3967 peering(a)exodus.net Hurricane Electric 198.32.176.20 6939 mleber(a)he.net VIA Net.Works 198.32.176.22 5669 peering(a)vianetworks.com ValuServe 198.32.176.28 6123 ? Lightning Internet 198.32.176.34 6427 peering(a)lightning.net Critical Path 198.32.176.37 10627 noc(a)cp.net WebTV 198.32.176.39 6469 soc(a)corp.webtv.net XMission 198.32.176.42 6315 peering(a)xmission.com DACOM Corporation 198.32.176.43 3786 peering(a)bora.net Hostcentric 198.32.176.45 11388 peering(a)hostcentric.com PFM Communications 198.32.176.48 4513 ? SingTel 198.32.176.50 7473 peering(a)ix.singtel.com Zocalo 198.32.176.53 715 peering(a)zocalo.net KDDNet 198.32.176.65 2516 peering(a)kddnet.ad.jp WinterLAN 198.32.176.73 5081 noc(a)winterlink.net Hanaro Telecom 198.32.176.75 9318 peering(a)hanaro.com Hotmail 198.32.176.77 12076 dmcgilli(a)microsoft.com Via.Net 198.32.176.80 7091 noc(a)via-net-works.com Nokia 198.32.176.84 14277 nokiaisp(a)iprg.nokia.com Open Data Network 198.32.176.86 4725 as-admin(a)gw.odn.ad.jp Digital Island 198.32.176.99 6553 mrose(a)digisle.net StarNet 198.32.176.100 6316 peering(a)starnetusa.net Sunrise Communications 198.32.176.110 6730 helpdesk(a)sunrise.ch Open Data Network 198.32.176.115 4725 as-admin(a)gw.odn.ad.jp Advanced Telcom Group 198.32.176.116 6971 peering(a)atgi.net DirecTV Broadband 198.32.176.119 12050 peering(a)telocity.net Nominum 198.32.176.120 17204 peering(a)nominum.com Thrunet 198.32.176.122 9277 noc(a)eng.thrunet.com RCN 198.32.176.126 6079 peering(a)rcn.com Akamai 198.32.176.127 12222 peering(a)akamai.com Cogent Communications 198.32.176.131 16631 peering(a)cogentco.com One Call Communications 198.32.176.133 6402 rirving(a)onecall.net Yahoo! Inc. 198.32.176.135 10310 peering(a)yahoo-inc.com SITA Equant 198.32.176.140 2647 Juan.Vadillo(a)sita.int Primus Telecom 198.32.176.141 11867 peering(a)primustel.com BBC 198.32.176.151 9156 Simon.Lockhart(a)bbc.co.uk Compaq 198.32.176.241 33 noc(a)compaq.net Compaq 198.32.176.242 33 noc(a)compaq.net Internet Mainstreet 198.32.176.249 3856

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Intelligent IGP Link Costing Algorithms?
by Joel Krauska 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

Does anyone use intelligent algorithms for determining IGP costs? It's a widely academic topic on solving a NP-Hard problem, but I've found most providers tend to stick to simple functions based on RTT and link capacity. With bandwidth costs becoming more and more reasonable, it also seems to have been a simple "get bigger pipes" between point A and B solution. However, with budgets being tighter, I would assume some more thought has been put in to using more intelligent methods of traffic optimization. (briefly ignoring the MPLS TE "solution") An added twist appears to be that a full demand matrix is difficult to build without large systems of flow collection. I'm curious if the problem can easily be approached without full insight in to this data. (per link usage yes, but without end-to-end flows) I've seen a few modeling applications, but nothing that attempts to solve the general optimization problem. Thoughts? Is there a need for something like this? Are there existing effective solutions? Thanks, Joel Krauska

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ip address management
by Irwin Lazar 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

Thought I'd pass along the below: GLOBAL CROSSING RELEASES FREE IP ADDRESSING SOFTWARE TOOL Global Crossing released a free software tool designed to help ISPs and other organizations manage and assign IP address space to customers more efficiently. The software tool creates a streamlined allocation process and provides a method for easily and accurately auditing existing address space usage, enhancing the ability of Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) tables to manage router information. The software was originally developed by Ben April, a Global Crossing network engineer, to help allocate more than 2 million IP addresses in parcels that range in size from two to four addresses up to thousands of addresses in the most mathematically conservative way possible. Global Crossing said its decision to release the tool for free is part of a larger effort to extend the life of IPv4 until IPv6 becomes broadly available. The tool is available for free online. http://www.freeipdb.org/ http://www.globalcrossing.com Global Crossing, January 10, 2002

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New discussion list: spamcon-general
by J.D. Falk 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

Another potential place for spam-related messages to go when they're off-topic for nanog. ----- Forwarded message ----- SpamCon Foundation is pleased to announce a new, moderated, email discussion list for the many issues related to email spam. Relevant topics include: - what is spam? - the impact of spam on society (present and future) - how should we deal with the various forms of spam? - I have a spam-related dilemma. How should I deal with it? - discussion of the progression of spam, including new techniques used by spammers and new techniques for dealing with it, volume changes & style changes Topics that are not relevant include reports of specific spam runs or spammers (unless directly relevant to one of the above), and ad-hominem attacks or other verbal abuse. Unlike most other anti-spam lists, spamcon-general will be moderated to ensure that all relevant opinions are discussed in the most effective manner possible, and to prevent disruption and drifts from relevant topics. The moderators are all experts in this fairly specialized field, and have been active particpants in similar fora for years. The spamcon-general list is in no way intended to be specific to the efforts of SpamCon Foundation. Its founding moderators are Troy Rollo, Jeff Cole and J.D. Falk. For more information, to access the archives, or to join the list (or others), please visit: http://www.spamcon.org/directories/discussions.shtml Please feel free to forward this message as is appropriate. See you there! ----- End forwarded message ----- -- J.D. Falk "you can bomb the world to pieces, <jdfalk(a)cybernothing.org> but you can't bomb it into peace" -- Michael Franti

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Adoption of MPLS in the Enterprise
by Lee Watterworth 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

Hi, MPLS has been in use at providers for a number of years. Does anyone have experience with MPLS adoption at the enterprise level? For what reasons was it deployed? Thanks -Lee ----------------------------- Lee Watterworth - (lee @ rim.net) ----------------------------- To err is human, to forgive is Not Company Policy.

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Fiber Cut Yesterday
by Andrew Dorsett 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

There was a fiber cut on DukeNet yesterday in NC between Greensboro and Mebane. Everything was repaired by 4am this morning according to them. Thanks for everyone who helped provide some information to track this down. Andrew --- <zerocool(a)netpath.net> http://www.andrewsworld.net/ ICQ: 2895251 Cisco Certified Network Associate Development Assistant: Netpath/Stratonet, Inc. (http://www.netpath.net/) Email: dorsett(a)netpath.net "Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself."

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Re: SWBell NOC contact #
by Lauren Nowlin 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

<Sorry for the duplicate Brian, but I should have sent out the note to the list as well.> NOC: noc(a)sbnoc.net, 214-495-2237 Cheers, -Ren P.S. Thanks for the pointer about Jared's list being out of date with the various PacBell, Ameritech, SWBell, Nevada Bell, SNET, Prodigy, etc. details. Peers of AS5102, AS5673, AS5676 & AS7132 have been notified. Guess there are other sites that should be as well. Brian Wallingford wrote > > > I've checked their site as well as Jared's NOC list and any *nic and ARIN > contact info to no avail. I'd appreciate a phone number if someone can > provide such. We're under what appears to be an attempted DOS attack from > a DSL customer of theirs. > > tia, > brian

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