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Call For Papers: Peer To Peer in Higher Education Conference
by Chris Rapier 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

NANOG Members, I'm on the program committe for the Collaberative Computing in Higher Education conference on peer to peer technologies. This conference will immediately follow the Internet 2 Meeting this October in Austin Texas and is open to the public. At this point we are looking for paper and/or presentations on research and development be it in academia or corporate environments. The deadline for submission of an *abstract* is Friday, August 10. If your abstract is accepted you'll have plenty of time to prepare a final paper or presentation for the meeting. If you have any questions please contact me or the two committee chairs listed below. Chris Rapier Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center National Center for Network Engineering --------------------------------------------------------------------- Collaborative Computing in Higher Education: Peer-to-Peer and Beyond http://www.internet2.edu/activities/html/p2pworkshop.html Renaissance Austin Hotel, Austin, Texas. October 4, 11:30 am-5:00 pm October 5, 8:00 am-3:00 pm CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS/PAPERS The Workshop Program Committee is now accepting proposals for presentations and papers. The deadline for submission is August 10, 2001. Areas of focus for presentations/papers: - advantages of Peer-to-Peer (P2P) and distributed computing models for applications in: * teaching and learning * research and science * collaboration and business models - architectural/infrastructure issues - technnical issues and challenges in p2p applications: security, network performance, NATS and firewalls, standards, etc. - ipv6, end-to-end performance and p2p applications - exploration of potential collaborations between universities and P2P application developers: how can universities integrate and perhaps even innovate? - Policy and implications when P2P applications are used in real case scenarios. - Bandwidth issues and maximizing both commodity and Internet2 bandwidth How to Present We ask that the following be sent to both of the program chairs: Ana Preston <apreston(a)utk.edu> and Linda Roos <lroos(a)oar.net> - speaker/presenter name and affiliation, - email address and phone number, - the desired area of focus, - an abstract of no more than 200 words, and - permission to reproduce your presentation, including permission to netcast your session if it's selected for the program and for netcasting. Deadlines Submission deadline August 10, 2001 Notification by August 31, 2001. The Program Committee also welcomes suggestions/recommendations for panels, tutorials, speakers, and other presentation topics. Registration http://www.internet2.edu/activities/html/p2pworkshop-reg.html Please note that this workshop requires separate registration from the Internet2 Member Meeting. Please send your suggestions and direct your questions to Ana Preston <apreston(a)utk.edu> and Linda Roos <lroos(a)oar.net> .

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Re: How many ISPs are out there?
by Marshall Eubanks 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

FI! The curse of cut and paste on insufficient coffee ! That link should be http://www.multicasttech.com/status/bgp.sum There is http://www.multicasttech.com/status/mbgp.sum for ASN with multicast MBGP reachability, as well. Regards Marshall Eubanks Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > > >Is there a site that can give me that info? > > > > I must say that I do not think that this is entirely a well posed > question. What is an ISP ? Do you have to have an ASN ? Run BGP? > Support dial ups ? Have your own address blocks ? > I can think of clear ISP's that do not do have an ASN, or run BGP, or... > > At any rate, there is a list of ASN reachable from us by BGP at > /home/httpd/html/MCAST/status/bgp.sum > > There are 11313 as of this morning. > > Also, of course, Boardwatch maintains a list of US ISP's. > > Regards > Marshall Eubanks > >-- > >R O E L A N D M J M E Y E R > >Managing Director > >Morgan Hill Software Company > >t:01 925 373 3954 > >c:01 925 352 3615 > >f:01 925 373 9781 > > > > Marshall Eubanks > > tme(a)21rst-century.com -- Marshall Eubanks tme(a)21rst-century.com

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RE: How many ISPs are out there?
by Roeland Meyer 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

That wouldn't constitute a complete answer because there are MANY local ISPs that aggregate under a regional. Also, not all regionals (yes, I've found some exceptions <Qwest?>) use BGP either. Then there is the old route pre-fixing problem. Not many ISPs, smaller than /19, are going to be doing effective ASN's either. > From: bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com > [mailto:bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:21 AM > > how many active ASN's are there? > > > > > > > > I was actually thinking along IAP (Internet Access > Provider) lines. But, > > most folks lump ISPs and IAPs in the same breath. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Adam Rothschild [mailto:asr@latency.net] > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:09 PM > > > To: Roeland Meyer > > > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > > > Subject: Re: How many ISPs are out there? > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 10:37:01PM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote: > > > > Is there a site that can give me that info? > > > > > > When in doubt, ask Jeeves: > > > > > > <http://www.ask.com/main/askjeeves.asp?ask=How+many+ISPs+are+o > > > ut+there%3F> > > > > > > What exactly is an ISP anyways? > > > > > > -a > > > > > >

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Re: How many ISPs are out there?
by Marshall Eubanks 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

> >Is there a site that can give me that info? > I must say that I do not think that this is entirely a well posed question. What is an ISP ? Do you have to have an ASN ? Run BGP? Support dial ups ? Have your own address blocks ? I can think of clear ISP's that do not do have an ASN, or run BGP, or... At any rate, there is a list of ASN reachable from us by BGP at /home/httpd/html/MCAST/status/bgp.sum There are 11313 as of this morning. Also, of course, Boardwatch maintains a list of US ISP's. Regards Marshall Eubanks >-- >R O E L A N D M J M E Y E R >Managing Director >Morgan Hill Software Company >t:01 925 373 3954 >c:01 925 352 3615 >f:01 925 373 9781 > Marshall Eubanks tme(a)21rst-century.com

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Re: List of AS names by ASN?
by Marshall Eubanks 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

> >Hi, all. > >I'm trying to find a list/table of AS names by ASN, preferably >tab-delimited, that I can use in spreadsheets and scripts. (Like, e.g., the >Cidr Report) > >Can anyone give me an idea where I might find this sort of thing? ftp://rs.arin.net/netinfo/asn.txt has all of the Arin, and some of the others. I would be glad for similar lists from RIPE and APNIC. Note that this list includes some ASN blocks, and needs to be "expanded" before use in a spread sheet. I have a awk routine to do this... Regards Marshall Eubanks > >Thanks, >Jeb Linton > Marshall Eubanks tme(a)21rst-century.com

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RE: Good Job, White House!
by Rowland, Alan D 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

IMHO "fixing" whitehouse.gov scales much better than "fixing" *.mil in a number of interesting ways. YMMV -Al -----Original Message----- From: Alan Clegg [mailto:alan@clegg.com] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 8:24 PM To: nanog(a)merit.org Subject: Good Job, White House! According to: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/militarycyberattack_010723.ht ml > In recent weeks, variations of the virus are believed to have infected at > least 225,000 business and institutional computer systems. Last Thursday, > infected computers were instructed to flood the White House Web site, but > with minutes to spare the White House was able to protect itself. I'm personally more pleased with the network operators that dealt with the problem. Thanks, Guys! I'm not exactly sure what the White House did. The above web page also confirms that http://*.mil:80 is currently unavailable. I guess the military should contact the White House to see how to go about fixing the problem. AlanC

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RE: How many ISPs are out there?
by Roeland Meyer 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

Sprint is the worst for pre-fix filtering for all but their own customers. I recently went through this with my old /24. It's still SWIP'd to MHSC but I can't use it. > -----Original Message----- > From: up(a)3.am [mailto:up@3.am] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:41 AM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: RE: How many ISPs are out there? > > > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote: > > > some exceptions <Qwest?>) use BGP either. Then there is the > old route > > pre-fixing problem. Not many ISPs, smaller than /19, are > going to be doing > > effective ASN's either. > > I would take issue with the assertion that you need a /19 or > larger to "be > doing effective ASNs". My understanding is that as long as you get a > block from former class C or "the swamp", you should be visible > everywhere. We recently requested, and got a /21 from 65/8 > from Sprint. > A phone call and some pleading got them to change that to > 208.8.16.0/21 > > AFAIK, that's reachable everywhere from AS19975 If that's > *not* correct, > I'd sure like to know... > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > up(a)3.am > http://3.am > ============================================================== > =========== >

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RE: How many ISPs are out there?
by Roeland Meyer 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

I was actually thinking along IAP (Internet Access Provider) lines. But, most folks lump ISPs and IAPs in the same breath. > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Rothschild [mailto:asr@latency.net] > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:09 PM > To: Roeland Meyer > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: How many ISPs are out there? > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 10:37:01PM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote: > > Is there a site that can give me that info? > > When in doubt, ask Jeeves: > > <http://www.ask.com/main/askjeeves.asp?ask=How+many+ISPs+are+o > ut+there%3F> > > What exactly is an ISP anyways? > > -a >

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How many ISPs are out there?
by Roeland Meyer 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

Is there a site that can give me that info? -- R O E L A N D M J M E Y E R Managing Director Morgan Hill Software Company t:01 925 373 3954 c:01 925 352 3615 f:01 925 373 9781

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Netflow bug on 3-GE cards (Trident) in Cisco GSRs
by Dani Roisman 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

Hey folks, Sharing some knowledge to try and save frustration. I think this is on-topic, forgive me if it isn't. We were struggling to get netflow to work on our 3-port GigE cards in our GSRs. I'll spare you the ugly details, but a few maintenance windows and many useless TAC calls later, we finally were directed to the following Cisco Bug ID: CSCdu72555 Turns out you can only run netflow on the first port of a 3-GigE port on the current S-tract software rev. If you have been struggling with this as well, I'm eager to hear about it off-list. Have a great weekend. - Dani

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