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The Cidr Report
by Tony Bates 05 May '01

05 May '01

This is an auto-generated mail on Fri May 4 23:00:00 PDT 2001 It is not checked before it leaves my workstation. However, hopefully you will find this report interesting and will take the time to look through this to see if you can improve the amount of aggregation you perform. The report is split into sections: 0) General Status List the route table history for the last week, list any possibly bogus routes seen and give some status on ASes. 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level This lists the "Top 30" players who if they decided to aggregate their announced classful prefixes at the origin AS level could make a significant difference in the reduction of the current size of the Internet routing table. This calculation does not take into account the inclusion of holes when forming an aggregate so it is possible even larger reduction should be possible. 2) Weekly Delta A summary of the last weeks changes in terms of withdrawn and added routes. Please note that this is only a snapshot but does give some indication of ASes participating in CIDR. Clearly, it is generally a good thing to see a large amont of withdrawls. 3) Interesting aggregates Interesting here means not an aggregate made as a set of classful routes. Thanks to xara.net for giving me access to their routing tables once a day. Please send any comments about this report directly to me. Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report.html for a daily update of this report. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CIDR REPORT for 04May01 0) General Status Table History ------------- Date Prefixes 270401 100797 280401 102051 290401 102329 300401 102763 010501 103252 020501 104027 030501 104798 040501 104512 Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr.plot.html for a plot of the table history. Possible Bogus Routes --------------------- *** Bogus 218.6.128.0/17 from AS4134 AS Summary ---------- Number of ASes in routing system: 10668 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix: 6344 (3599 cidr, 2745 classful) Largest number of cidr routes: 2588 announced by AS2149 Largest number of classful routes: 1404 announced by AS701 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level --- 04May01 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS1221 1396 1034 362 25.9% TELSTRA-AS AS701 1404 1217 187 13.3% Alternet AS2149 613 452 161 26.3% PSINET-2 AS705 380 250 130 34.2% part of AS assignment AS701 - AS7 AS4151 258 146 112 43.4% part of AS assignment AS4151 - AS AS4293 392 283 109 27.8% part of AS assignment AS4287 - AS AS6429 215 107 108 50.2% ATT LA Internet Chile AS6595 164 62 102 62.2% autonomous system number assigned AS13999 104 8 96 92.3% autonomous system number assigned AS4755 235 145 90 38.3% part of AS assignment AS4608 - AS AS8013 343 258 85 24.8% autonomous system number assigned AS7018 701 617 84 12.0% AT&T WorldNet Service Backbone AS577 236 167 69 29.2% autonomous system number assigned AS174 427 361 66 15.5% Performance Systems International AS6471 113 49 64 56.6% autonomous system number assigned AS5106 100 37 63 63.0% autonomous system number assigned AS3464 153 91 62 40.5% Alabama Research and Education Ne AS3749 119 58 61 51.3% autonomous system number assigned AS3602 254 195 59 23.2% Sprint Canada Inc. AS724 205 147 58 28.3% part of AS assignment AS721 - AS7 AS11252 91 33 58 63.7% autonomous system number assigned AS1 609 551 58 9.5% GTE Internetworking AS16758 63 6 57 90.5% autonomous system number assigned AS6413 67 11 56 83.6% autonomous system number assigned AS226 149 93 56 37.6% Los Nettos AS4323 232 179 53 22.8% Time Warner Telecom Internet AS17561 110 59 51 46.4% UNKNOWN AS852 206 157 49 23.8% autonomous system number assigned AS8151 183 137 46 25.1% autonomous system number assigned AS13544 68 22 46 67.6% autonomous system number assigned For the rest of the previous weeks gain information please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html 2) Weekly Delta Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report 3) Interesting aggregates Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report

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Re: Carrier Circus (was RE: Intermedia (ICIX) brokenness...)
by Richard A. Steenbergen 05 May '01

05 May '01

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 12:18:18PM -0700, Jonathan Disher wrote: > > Personally, I'm still trying to figure out why Exodus, in all their > apparent wisdom (or lack thereof), has stopped using the GBLX OC-48's > in the former GlobalCenter facilities (or at least SNV3), and is now > shuttling all its traffic out a single Exodus OC-12. Prior to > yesterday these traces would've shown gblx.net routers (on different > IPs), and would never have touched an exodus backbone... Hrm lets think about that for a momment shall we. Could it be, perhaps, that Exodus purchased GlobalCenter and is integrating those facilities into their network? Could it also be that Exodus has a well designed network where most of the traffic is quickly sent to peers and an OC48 backbone is not required? I don't see any congestion on that OC12, so perhaps that is the case? I also don't see a damn thing wrong with the traceroute you provided, and an OC12 peer to UU is pretty good. Was there some other complaint or do you just not like it when your traceroute changes? > Of course, this is probably a move I should've expected from Exodus, > after the mongolian flustercluck that was the AS change in SNV3. > You'd think they would do something like that carefully, as you can > -seriously- bone customers. But noooooo. One of our junior admins > made the change (since I was out of town, but hey, it's cut and > paste!). He, and all of the other affected customers in SNV3 on the > conference call, were left on hold for about half an hour (plus the > call started half an hour late), whereupon the exodus engineering team > popped back in and said "We're done with our side, you guys go > ahead!". Actually I was awake for that. I guess your junior engineer wasn't able to figure out that if he simply put in an additional neighbor statement with the new AS your downtime would have been less then 30 seconds as bgp came back up. 30 second outages are pretty light in the history of GCTR and GBLX outages, if you can't handle maint then you should have setup static routes out or multihomed, but you shouldn't blame your stupidity or lack of forethought on other networks. > Now. Does it seem logical to kill connectivity over BOTH of your > hosting routers at once, thus killing every single BGP-running > customer you have that isn't physically in their cage at the time? > Or would it seem better to do what I assumed they'd do, which is do > one router, wait for everyone to make changes, then do the other? ASN changes are not exactly easy or frequent, but I seem to recall that one going over rather smoothly. Customers were given ample warning and a conference call was setup to handle any outstanding issues, of which there were none. > I guess this is what happens when I assume intelligence at a > hosting/backbone provider. Or when we assume intelligent posts to nanog... -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras(a)e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)

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Intermedia (ICIX) brokenness...
by Dominic J. Eidson 04 May '01

04 May '01

So who replaced Intermedia's routers with a lump of cheese? : 4 gw-swbell.digex.net (206.181.161.153) 8 ms 9 ms 10 ms 5 aus1-core3-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.68.210) 9 ms 6 ms 7 ms 6 dfw3-core2-pos2-2.atlas.icix.net (165.117.68.218) 18 ms 15 ms 14 ms 7 dfw3-core1-pos7-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.121) 28 ms 14 ms 14 ms 8 a3-0-14.crtntx1-cr12.bbnplanet.net (4.24.147.53) 1366 ms 1336 ms 1360 ms 9 p6-0.crtntx1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.9.253) 1404 ms 1352 ms 1381 ms 10 p15-0.crtntx1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.113) 1374 ms 1327 ms 1359 ms 11 p2-0.crtntx1-cr1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.5.2) 1368 ms 1392 ms 1364 ms 12 p3-0-0.aperian3.bbnplanet.net (4.24.104.98) 1423 ms 1328 ms 1369 ms 13 morannon.the-infinite.org (216.139.208.190) 1423 ms 1383 ms 1374 ms $ ... and the reverse ... 4 183.at-2-0-0.XR1.DFW7.ALTER.NET (152.63.96.241) 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms 5 191.ATM10-0-0.BR1.DFW7.ALTER.NET (146.188.241.177) 29 ms 30 ms 21 ms 6 137.39.52.34 (137.39.52.34) 29 ms 28 ms 28 ms 7 dfw3-core1-pos6-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.133) 1370 ms 1377 ms 1369 ms 8 dfw3-core2-pos6-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.122) 1306 ms 1357 ms 1353 ms 9 aus1-core3-pos3-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.68.217) 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms 10 aus1-core1-pos9-0-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.68.209) 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 11 206.181.161.30 (206.181.161.30) 37 ms 38 ms austin-gw.swbell.com (206.181.161.154) 1363 ms 12 ded1-fa1-0-0.austtx.swbell.net (151.164.20.243) 38 ms 38 ms 37 ms 13 seton-medical-center-638746.cust-rtr.swbell.net (151.164.22.46) 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms $ -- Dominic J. Eidson "Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-menu!" - Gimli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.the-infinite.org/ http://www.the-infinite.org/~dominic/

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pass the hat
by Eric A. Hall 04 May '01

04 May '01

* * WELCOME to ARIN Registration Services * * Sorry, the system load is temporarily too heavy. * * Please wait a while and try again. Thanks * I will start with $5 towards a third 386. -- Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/

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60 hudson colo and BW
by Thomas Kernen 04 May '01

04 May '01

I'm looking for a half rack in 60 Hudson and some bandwidth between 25 Broadway and 60 Hudson. If anyone can help me out, please reply off-list. Thomas

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RPSL and Cisco Conditional Advertisement
by Howard C. Berkowitz 04 May '01

04 May '01

One of those questions, I'm afraid, that could go to an assortment of lists. Has anyone defined an RPSL construct that can express the semantics of Cisco BGP conditional advertisement? I can see how to express "static" relationships, but not dynamic ones among routes, and an action clause doesn't quite fit. TIA, Howard

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RE: BGP Question: Problems with connectivity when using local pre ferences
by Devon True 04 May '01

04 May '01

All: Thanks for the replies off-list. Telocity (AS12050) got a hold of me and the problem is now solved. Thanks! ----- Devon True -----Original Message----- From: Devon True Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:28 PM To: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' Subject: BGP Question: Problems with connectivity when using local preferences All: We are running BGP4 between Sprint and UUNet. We are using route-maps to add local preferences to certain AS numbers to force traffic out Sprint rather than UUNet. One of the AS's we force out Sprint is AS3356 (Level3). Our CTO has a DSL line from a local provider. When he traceroutes from his DSL connection, he goes across the DSL provider, Level3, and stops at UUNet. When I run a traceroute to his DSL IP, I go across UUNet, Level3, and stop at the DSL provider's router. Here is the AS path that my traceroute takes: AS701 -> AS3356 -> AS12050 Here is the AS path that his traceroute takes: AS12050 -> AS3356 -> AS701 We are forcing Level3 routes out our Sprint connection, but AS12050 routes go out UUNet (no local-preference change). When I took out Level3's AS from our route-map, thus sending Level3 routes out UUNet, everything worked fine. He could reach us and I could him. Any ideas why? Devon

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BGP Question: Problems with connectivity when using local prefere nces
by Devon True 04 May '01

04 May '01

All: We are running BGP4 between Sprint and UUNet. We are using route-maps to add local preferences to certain AS numbers to force traffic out Sprint rather than UUNet. One of the AS's we force out Sprint is AS3356 (Level3). Our CTO has a DSL line from a local provider. When he traceroutes from his DSL connection, he goes across the DSL provider, Level3, and stops at UUNet. When I run a traceroute to his DSL IP, I go across UUNet, Level3, and stop at the DSL provider's router. Here is the AS path that my traceroute takes: AS701 -> AS3356 -> AS12050 Here is the AS path that his traceroute takes: AS12050 -> AS3356 -> AS701 We are forcing Level3 routes out our Sprint connection, but AS12050 routes go out UUNet (no local-preference change). When I took out Level3's AS from our route-map, thus sending Level3 routes out UUNet, everything worked fine. He could reach us and I could him. Any ideas why? Devon

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oc12 card in DC area?
by Michael C. Toren 03 May '01

03 May '01

Hi, Does anyone in the DC area have a long range oc12 card for either a GSR or a Juniper that they would be willing to let us borrow for less than 24 hours? If so, please contact me offlist, or at (610) 862-0404. Thank you very much, -mct

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Re: graphical display of routes
by Mikael Abrahamsson 03 May '01

03 May '01

On Thu, 3 May 2001, Seth H Holmes wrote: > Why announce anything other than the full aggregate? I'm not talking about eBGP announcements here, but IGP routes for /30 and such. I want to see if there are any gaps in my current IP plan, perhaps currently unused link nets etc. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike(a)swm.pp.se

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