May 2001 - Test - lists.nanog.org

RE: Instant chats and central servers
by Roeland Meyer 09 May '01

09 May '01

Can you require access via SSH tunnel? > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Slagle [mailto:raistlin@tacorp.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:39 PM > To: Christopher A. Woodfield > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Instant chats and central servers > > > > Newer versions of bahamut will do encrypted links. Just rc4. > > http://bahamut.dal.net > > Scalability while compressing to clients is a severly limiting factor > unless you only plan on using it locally. > > Jason > > -- > Jason Slagle - CCNP - CCDP > Network Administrator - Toledo Internet Access - Toledo Ohio > - raistlin(a)tacorp.net - jslagle(a)toledolink.com - WHOIS JS10172 > /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . > \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign . If dreams are like movies then memories > X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . are films about ghosts.. > / \ - NO Word docs in e-mail . - Adam Duritz - Counting Crows > > > On Tue, 8 May 2001, Christopher A. Woodfield wrote: > > > > > This begs a question - does anyone have good experience > with SSL-enabled > > IRC servers? I'm testing UnrealIRCd right now, but I've run > into some > > showstopper bugs when trying to link servers over SSL. Any other > > suggestions? > > > > -Chris > > > > On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 08:50:29PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 11:35:27AM -0700, Sean Donelan wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > If folks are using this these services for real-time > communications, > > > > should we be trying to improve their reliability? Or > is this just a > > > > "feature" of how presence services work. > > > > > > We use IRC for internal communication, and for communication with > > > techies of several other Dutch ISPs. Works like a charm, > and the irc > > > server is local to us. If it's down, you pick another > irc-server on > > > the same network. > > > > > > Works for us, works for lot of people. > > > > > > Greetz, Peter. > > > > > >

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Political Correctness Strikes a Blow for free speech....
by David Lesher 09 May '01

09 May '01

I just love the bounce message I just got back... > Trend SMEX Content Filter has detected sensitive content. > > Place = nanog(a)merit.edu; ; ; wb8foz(a)nrk.com > Sender = David Lesher > Subject = Re: [Fwd: Re: HR 1542 [OT, anti-BS attempt, US]] > Delivery Time = May 07, 2001 (Monday) 14:09:15 > Policy = Sexual Discrimination > Action on this mail = Quarantine message > > Warning message from administrator: > Sender, Content filter has detected a sensitive e-mail. What a great way to limit my audience to those adult enough to be willing to risk "sensitive content..." -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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Network Simulation and Measurement Software
by Wojtek Zlobicki 09 May '01

09 May '01

I need to evaluate what is out there in regards to network simulation and modeling software. I am especially interested in freeware that will run on Linux. However, just about any application will do. I will compile a list of all the responses I get and will be publishing a web page with this info (part of a larger research project I am doing). I need software that will allow me to see how different applications react to different network/protocols conditions. I would like to create a system that would allow any application to be tested in a controlled environment. Any links to such software or already established network simulation projects would be greatly appreciated. Wojtek Zlobicki

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Re: Northern VA CATV systems
by RJ Atkinson 09 May '01

09 May '01

At 11:34 09/05/01, Curtis Maurand wrote: >It was my understanding (several years ago) from a 60 Minutes special done >on Fairfax, VA that they had built an all fiber system (Fiber to the >house). They had built it on a Video on demand system and a pay as you go >(That was experimental). I'm not sure whatever happened to that. I do >know that it was largely experimental, but was supposed to be state of the >art. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. > >Curtis I live in Fairfax County and have for most of the past decade at least. If there was any fibre-to-the-home system, it was not done by the CATV folks. Media General owned the CATV system several years ago; Cox bought MG's Fairfax system, perhaps ~18-24 months back. While some surrounding areas (e.g. Alexandria, Arlington) have real HFC, they don't have FTTH from their cable company. No one I can find here has ever heard of an FTTH that went to any of their neighborhoods and there certainly isn't one now to my neighborhood. So if an experiment was here, it was never county-wide and hasn't gone production. If it was production and county-wide, it was someplace else. I do know of places with fibre-to-the-curb, mostly in Sweden, but also including Palo Alto CA and a few other US places. This is pretty far off topic for NANOG folks, lets please have followups be private rather than on-list. Thanks, Ran

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China says we started it.
by Shawn McMahon 09 May '01

09 May '01

According to Reuters, Chinese hackers are calling a truce. And also, they say we started it. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010509/wr/internet_china_hackers_dc_1.html Enjoy.

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Clued ISP in/around Detroit
by Mark Radabaugh - Amplex 09 May '01

09 May '01

We have a dedicated customer in need of a connection (DSL/ISDN) in/around Detroit, Michigan. Please contact off-list. Prefer connectivity to Sprint and/or Verio. Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419) 833-3635

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OT: Questions...
by Rich Sena 09 May '01

09 May '01

Implimenting tacacs on some Extreme Networks gear - can anyone who has done this or might have some info re: same contact me privately. I have it working but am chasing down some issues with command accounting... thanks... -- Rich Sena - ras(a)thick.net ThickNET Consulting "On the way to understanding; you understand, and forget."

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Re: HR 1542 [OT, anti-BS attempt, US]
by Fletcher E Kittredge 09 May '01

09 May '01

> > Some areas still have both a contract with the local government, and tax > breaks and other services provided to them by the local government. This is > why the 'open access' arguement is raging fiercly in places like Northern > Virginia -- Fox Cable got millions in tax and right of access breaks from > the government over the years, but now claims that they own the cable and > shouldn't be required to resell access to competitors. Non-germane to this discussion. Roland Meyers claimed that US cable companies had current, exclusive contracts to provide high speed Internet access. We are waiting for him to come up with quotations from said contracts. It is accepted by all that cable companies have contracts with local municipalities. regards, fletcher

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RE: black hat .cn networks
by Paul Lantinga 09 May '01

09 May '01

> -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Hinderliter > > The past week i've seen attacks increase 5-fold, mostly > 111/udp attacks [snip] Justin, et al, do you have any *proof* that these attacks are coming from Chinese attackers on Chinese machines? If so, look for commonalities amongst the attacks such as common netblocks etc. If not, the hype could probably be routed into the round file. Attacks happen all the time to the good and the bad. We still need good documentation and due diligence. Until then, join "North America Nonblocking Oriental Groups" -Paul Lantinga -- Pretty much guaranteed that these are solely my opinions

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Cisco DS3 Performance data
by Bill Thomas 09 May '01

09 May '01

Thanks to all for the valuable feedback. The LightReading article that covers the "Edge Router" bakeoff data was most revealing. thanks again, Bill Thomas

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