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InterNAP
by Larry Rosenman 30 Mar '01

30 Mar '01

Anyone have any comments (good/bad/indifferent) on InterNAP? Larry -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

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any non-bgp challenged engineer from Digital Island?
by alex＠yuriev.com 30 Mar '01

30 Mar '01

Hello, We are trying to find non-BGP challenged engineer from DigitalIsland. Can such person please drop me an email off-list? Yes, we have tried their NOC, both through phone and email. Their suggestion to solving a problem is to turn off the link... Thanks, ALex

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NANOG 22 -- Registration Open
by Carol Wadsworth 30 Mar '01

30 Mar '01

---------------------- NANOG 22 Registration Open ---------------------- Registration is now open for the 22nd Meeting of the North American Network Operators' Group. The meeting will be held May 20-22 at the DoubleTree Paradise Valley in Scottsdale, Arizona, and will be hosted by CenterGate Research Group. ---------------------- Online Registration: https://www.merit.edu/nanog/registration.form.html.0105 ---------------------- Hotel Reservations: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0105/hotel.html Special rate expires: April 27 ---------------------- Call for Presentations: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0105/call22.html http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0105/call22.pdf Submission deadline: April 9

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Input..
by Matt Levine 30 Mar '01

30 Mar '01

I'm looking at putting together a site to track, report and notify about network maintenance/outages/issues. The goal is to provide a single source of information to help diagnose and track down problems, and will probably include some strategically placed trace gateways. If anybody has any input, I'd appreciate an off-list reply.. Regards, Matt -- Matt Levine <matt(a)deliver3.com> .... "I used to think that the brain was the most wonderful organ in my body. Then I realized who was telling me this." -- Emo Phillips

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out/in band management networks (incredibly non-operational)
by Jade E. Deane 30 Mar '01

30 Mar '01

Can anyone recommend a good white paper or page regarding construction of management networks? Practices, procedures, policies, and technical details of management interfaces, etc. Thanks in advance, Jade Jade E. Deane Sr. Network Engineer helloNetwork Las Vegas, Nevada email: jade.deane(a)helloNetwork.com

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OUTAGE: network shutdown
by Sean Donelan 30 Mar '01

30 Mar '01

As most folks are aware, Northpoint Communications is/has/will shutdown its DSL network. The shutdown seems to be proceeding at different speeds in different states. State PUC's don't seem to have a proceedure for handling customers abandoned by a failing provider. Originally, I was viewing this as a shutdown of an end network, hard on the users of that network but not really an Internet service outage. But AT&T's description of Northpoint as a wholesaler meant the shutdown affected multiple ISPs. So I'm including northpoint's going out of business in my tracking of outages because it affected multiple Internet networks.

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Re: MBone access
by Toerless Eckert 30 Mar '01

30 Mar '01

Try: http://www.broadcast.com/mcisp for a list of ISP that carry Yahoo Broadcast content via IP Multicast. I would hope that this is equivalent to full native IP Multicast connectivity for the majority of these ISPs. (Note: This message should not be construed as an endorsement of any particular content provider/aggregator or ISP ;-)) --- Toerless

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RE: dsl providers that will route /24
by troy＠clownhammer.org 30 Mar '01

30 Mar '01

John- Please keep the trife legal disputes off Nanog. If you are seeing Wacky Packets(tm), call your upstream(s) and have them apply a filter if Zebra boxen are incapable of filtering the traffic. Can we end this thread since it crossed the line from "Operational" to "Personal" a long time ago? thanks, -troy >David. > >We're seeing a flood of RFC1918 sourced traffic bounce off our ingress >filters. > >This is causing unwarranted load on our edge routers. I feel that we >should be compensated by whomever is originating or allowing the >origination of said packets. > > As a result of your strance on the matter, we're going to be naming you >as a defendant in a civil lawsuit. Please be sure to have available >packet logs from _all_ of your customers at _every_ _ingress_ and _egress_ >point on your network for the past 24 and next 48 hours. > >See you in court. > >--- >John Fraizer >EnterZone, Inc > > > > > > http://www.clownhammer.org

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RE: dsl providers that will route /24
by Nick Guy 30 Mar '01

30 Mar '01

Having run said ingress filters at a fairly good sized ISP with several thousand DSL customers It must be said that we are not talking about filters that create outrageous cpu load. What the filters can tell you is how many of your customers have misconfigured Nat, are doing multi-homing on the cheap or are just being naughty. If you do not have the filters you are going to have issue anyway when your dual-homed DSL customer calls with 50% packet loss because their other provider is doing ingress filtering. Point being is that there are pragmatic reasons to filter that are less abstract than the more difficult to grasp netizenship issues, although why folks don't get karma is beyond me :-). Finally, I cannot imagine being the source of a major DDOS and trying to explain why I did not use simple tools to avoid the problem. Nick Guy -----Original Message----- From: David Schwartz [mailto:davids@webmaster.com] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:10 AM To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: RE: dsl providers that will route /24 > > Subject: RE: dsl providers that will route /24 > > > > > > That definition, if you really mean it, would make nearly > > every packet on > > the Internet spoofed. Sooner or later, pretty much every packet winds > > up > > coming into a router with a source not assigned to the customer > > on the other > > end of that link. > > think edge man, EDGE!

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Summary of Alteon inquiry
by K.Graham 30 Mar '01

30 Mar '01

At the request of many below is a summarization of the emails I recieved concerning my Alteon question. There seems to be alot of people very interested in Alteon's. The common answer was that it is difficult to find extensive information about them on the web. My assumption would be is if you do not have a support contract then the best way to recieve guidance with Alteon products would be to contact them directly. Either via a sales representative or by the email address below. Websites: http://www.alteon.com http://www.alteonwebsystems.com/ http://www.alteonwebsystems.com/whitepapers/ (pdf documents) http://www39.nortelnetworks.com/products/ (white papers, equipment specs, FAQ's, Viso icons) http://www39.nortelnetworks.com/products/780/ http://www39.nortelnetworks.com/products/webos/ http://vegan.net/lb (mailing list and searchable archives) http://www.nortelnetworks.com/documentation https://www.esight.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+dns.home Suggestions: Ask your sales rep or sales engineer. We've been very happy with our AceDirector 3's. I was able to find some stuff by searching on google for 'alteon loadbalancer example config' (or something like that) it at least gave me enough to get a loadbalanced config up and running.. support(a)alteon.com Their documentation isn't publically available last time I checked. But they shouldn't have any problems emailing you electronic copies or even hard copies. Kim Graham

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