July 2000 - Test - lists.nanog.org

Re: Sonet protection usage
by Sean Donelan 26 Jul '00

26 Jul '00

On Tue, 25 July 2000, Danny McPherson wrote: > > Of course, the usual failure mode is backhoe fade, not electronics. > > In which case, that APS circuit was cut along with the rest. > > Of course, backhoes don't normally work inside PoPs, which is the application > of APS I was referring to. Routers do fail though (often more than links), > and APS has been demonstrated to work relatively well for protecting against > such failures. Although backhoes are often publically identified as the cause of problems, it turns out 71% of the reportable telephone outages last quarter were due to problems inside the carrier's control (i.e. inside the C.O.) according to ATIS/NRSC's calaculations. CO's are dangerous places for network equipment.

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Re: Sonet protection usage
by Danny McPherson 26 Jul '00

26 Jul '00

I should clarify. The "ADM trib" I'm referring to here is when the transmission gear (ADM) is located in the same facility as the routers and local loops are a non-issue. As for two local loops w/APS, one protecting the other, there are certainly precautions that can be taken to avoid a great deal of the problems that folks have shared here over the years, some obvious some not. But simply handing over another $100K for a second port, simply to protect against router failures, isn't always a sensible .. or viable option. -danny

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FRF.9 compression
by Mufti Ahmed 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

i'm trying to do sometype of Frame Relay compression between a Bay router and a CiscoRouter. Nortel states that they do not do FRF.9 which is a standard Frame Relay comp. because they haven't gotten much of a demand for it. Are there any other types of compression algorithms for Frame Relay and any websites that are helpful ? He mentioned Hi/fn compression but i'm not finding much info on this either. Any help is appreciated. Thanks Mufti Nayeem Ahmed Network Systems Engineer Market Data Networks Reuters America Inc. (212)-603-3595 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd.

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New? domain name registration scam
by Chris Cappuccio 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

There is a new company called "Electronic Domain Name Monitoring" which you may get letters or faxes from... They read something like: "*** FINAL NOTICE *** FINAL NOTICE *** URGENT NOTICE OF IDENTICAL DOMAIN NAME APPLICATION BY A THIRD PARTY Please be advised that the above noted domain name has been submitted for registration, consequently, it is our opinion that this application may be submitted in bad faith for one or more of the following reasons......" Basically, this company becomes an affiliate to various hosting providers and registration resellers, possibly even to Network Solutions itself, although I was not able to get specific information. It asks them to send it new registration requests before they are approved. It then notifies anyone with a similar domain name or trade mark that the domain is being registered, and if so, it asks the registrar to prevent the registration, and instead registers the domain name with Network Solutions for the owner of the similar domain name or trade mark holder. Why is this a scam? This company presents itself as an authority, and acts as if it has official officers who are part of some team that regulates the Internet. Instead it just diverts registrations to Network Solutions!!! Short of saying it is a branch of the US government, they do a lot to make themselves sound official on the phone. The letter they send out looks scary, using lots of legalese, or like a Publisher's Clearing House sweepstakes joke, depending on how you read it. "In addition to remedies provided for by the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Policy, Section 4a (1)(2)(3) & b (1)(2)(3)(4), EDNM provides existing registrants, trademark and service mark owners with a first-right-to-use preference on domain names which are identical or confusingly similar to their own." Now, I don't think notifying people in advance because their domain name is being registered with a different extension and giving them the option to take the new registration is fair, or even legitimate, but this topic is already strecthing it for this mailing list. -- "Should we now be comfortable with a 'trust us, we're the government' approach?" he said. "I don't think anybody on this committee shares that view." -John Conyers, House Judiciary Committee

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Re: UBR at MAE-East ATM, anyone? (fwd)
by Alex 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

As you all may recall, a little while I ago I started a thread about UBR at MAE-*-ATM. Since then, I've found http://www.mae.net/~feldman/presentations/NANOG-May99/mgp00006.html (which I must have missed).. Questions to WCom about this have been met with a nifty black-hole affect. Is there a demand for this? Do we want UBR?

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any ISPs using dynamic dns?
by Eric A. Hall 24 Jul '00

24 Jul '00

Hi, Quick question: are any ISPs using Dynamic DNS for their end-user addressing and naming, or is everybody using fixed assingments for this still? Do any of the cable or xDSL vendors even support DDNS to anybody's knowledge? Thanks -- Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/

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who is peer?
by noc-eng＠gurlmail.com 24 Jul '00

24 Jul '00

sirs and madams, our noc inform us of down peer on mae east router... MAE-East#show ip bgp sum | include Active 129.21.60.174 4 4385 18542 632128 0 0 0 1d03h Active this resolve to mae-east.csh.rit.edu host, not mae fddi or atm ip. maybe ebgp multi hop. contacted appliedtheory noc does not know vci/vpi or switch port. pls help! ________________________________________________________________________ --> get your free, private gURLmail account at http://www.gURLmail.com !!

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Re: who is peer?
by Dean M. Soran 24 Jul '00

24 Jul '00

mae-east.csh.rit.edu has a long history. I think currently it is serving as a stealth peering session for PGEX, so that when the creditors come knocking they don't find all of the hidden routers. Cheers, Dean __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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non-gui tool for parsing/generating cisco configs
by Eric Hall 23 Jul '00

23 Jul '00

I'm looking for a non-gui tool (or tools) for parsing and generating configs for cisco switches and routers that can be run from another process on unix systems. The configs I'll have are pretty simple, minimal routing, some port-specific commands, and basic host info. I've searched around the web and dug through the nanog archives (mostly to find there are few things, none of which match my current needs, and lots of people saying they need what I'm asking for and more). If anybody has pointers for the above, they're much appreciated. Thank you, -eric

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