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need some digex hosting assistance
by Derrick 14 Jul '00

14 Jul '00

Can someone from digex hosting familiar with their internal switching and routing environment please contact me off-list. I need some information confirmed to help save my sanity regarding ftp issues. Derrick

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Re: RFC 1918
by Shawn McMahon 14 Jul '00

14 Jul '00

Folks, I didn't expect to have to have 15 private conversations in which I'd have to send the same thing over and over to 15 different people. If you want to reply to me about my "RFC 1918" post, feel free; but if you do it off-list, I'm gonna read it and then delete it unanswered, with specific exceptions chosen completely arbitrarily and without any attempt at fairness. :-) Thanks, Shawn

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RE: DNS for interfaces & PPPoE Time Burst
by Eyers, Jerry 14 Jul '00

14 Jul '00

Unless you have a monopoly (hence the previous poster's comment). I personally have seen the "we are a monopoly, you get the bandwidth we dictate to you, not what you paid for" mentality in operation in my local area DSL provider, after they changed bandwidth on my service three times (always down, go figure). Jerry -----Original Message----- From: Bob Biver [mailto:bbiver@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 10:49 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: DNS for interfaces & PPPoE Time Burst Addendum-- To to overwhelming responce: I was simply trying to get a perspective on shaping PPPoE traffic. I would *NEVER* misinform or otherwise attempt to defraud anyone. The account would simply be cheaper than one that was advertised as full bandwidth. This account would be put out there so that *everyone* would know what they were buying 320K down with a 16K CIR up but burstable to 128. Sorry for the confusion- Bob- PS Why does everyone think poeple are trying to 'rip" off customers? you will not stay in business or in your job long if you do that. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: GC/Exds deal -- How would it work?
by Richard A. Steenbergen 14 Jul '00

14 Jul '00

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Jason Legate wrote: > http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/000712/n12107355.html > > Would all the customers be moved to exds? Wouldn't that be like shooting > one's self in the foot (on gc's part)? > > Anyone have any ideas on how they would do this? I think you believe what you read a little too much. Even if they wanted to, I don't believe Exodus has anywhere near the backbone capacity to support those datacenters, so unless they're getting some dark fiber as part of the deal... -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras(a)e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/humble PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)

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Bridged 1483
by Morris, Dennis 14 Jul '00

14 Jul '00

Is anyone running an operational net using bridged RFC 1483 or 2684, or has had other experiences in a lab or test net environment. Any references or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Dennis Morris morrisd(a)ncr.disa.mil

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GC/Exds deal -- How would it work?
by Jason Legate 13 Jul '00

13 Jul '00

http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/000712/n12107355.html Would all the customers be moved to exds? Wouldn't that be like shooting one's self in the foot (on gc's part)? Anyone have any ideas on how they would do this? -j

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RE: MAE West down?
by John Fraizer 13 Jul '00

13 Jul '00

http://www.rsng.net/rs-views/mae-west/index.html Peer | Routes Exported | Peers Exported To | Routes Imported | Peers Imported From --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AS 2548 (Digex) 2431 2 0 2 AS 6259 (FibreNet) 0 18 2273 18 Looks kinda dismal, huh? There's BIG trouble when DIGEX has a grand total of 2 peers at the exchange and they're not importing ANY routes. --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3a mQCNAzlo9RIAAAEEAK03prYoSsHIpASXliiU7HMshrsyT9KrigEKgy/ADVB6noQS Yp5nIlCt4BIV/8oYFloZcNxoo8LDchkDM+0arJcJ9236W+r7nf+UUu8e4hJz0y73 Jq6DEkGY64qbsgF/NBy5xQGnNFyY98KcIbp62m+C5UlTa3NNjIbMmesdFkq5AAUR tClKb2huIEZyYWl6ZXIgPEpvaG4uRnJhaXplckBFbnRlclpvbmUuTmV0PokAlQMF EDlo9RKGzJnrHRZKuQEBa/oEAKiYVn+zfRSeGxA5fdK9be1DpN0ygV0UX0ghIUsg LLAb4bhhGqwXz/my1w5oLIwa4YSOvHzkPzbC0jvEEfbQXlE/bGOqpK8VlznudGy4 DV4p0eu4Ij5gWAdkWmjyI4DfjJL8nVsat9HgE0/IsYi7xwujdvwz6TQWuxmNkQyx D3aS =WdqV -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Dave Cahill wrote: > John, > > The Mae-west looking glass is still functioning and providing BGP routing > information? > > http://nitrous.digex.net/mae/maew-lg.html

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MAE-West repair time line
by Sean Donelan 13 Jul '00

13 Jul '00

Looking at the public mae-west looking-glasses, it appears mae-west returned to normal at about 2am PDT this morning. Individual ISPs have been turning their peering sessions back on throughout the morning. Traffic appears to be returning to previous levels.

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RE: DNS for interfaces & PPPoE Time Burst
by John Fraizer 13 Jul '00

13 Jul '00

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Bob Biver wrote: > > Addendum-- > To to overwhelming responce: > I was simply trying to get a perspective on shaping PPPoE traffic. I would > *NEVER* misinform or otherwise attempt to defraud anyone. The account would > simply be cheaper than one that was advertised as full bandwidth. This > account would be put out there so that *everyone* would know what they were > buying 320K down with a 16K CIR up but burstable to 128. Sorry for the > confusion- > > Bob- > > PS Why does everyone think poeple are trying to 'rip" off customers? you > will not stay in business or in your job long if you do that. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > Some of the oldest ISPs on the planet have been doing it for years. It's called oversubscribing. 288 ISDN ports at a POP being fed with 3 DS1's into the WAN. They're selling "business" accounts with a CIR of 128K. We've run into it twice on WAN connections into supposed Tier-1's. It's sad when you have more connectivity into them than they have to the world (at least at your peering point).. --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc

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Re: [Fwd: 07/12/00 Internet Routing Problems]
by John Fraizer 13 Jul '00

13 Jul '00

It scared the hell out of me too. Now the pinko's have gotten to Merit and CIADA. Time to start swinging the "Bright Platinum Baseball Bat of Truth" again... --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Rick Irving wrote: > > And suddenly, I woke up. > > :) > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: 07/12/00 Internet Routing Problems > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:22:11 -0400 (EDT) > From: stats(a)merit.edu > To: routing-problems(a)merit.edu > > See http://www.merit.edu/ipma for a more detailed report on > routing problems and recommendations on ways service providers can > limit the spread of invalid routing information. > Send comments and questions to ipma(a)merit.edu > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > routing-problems-request(a)merit.edu. > A hypermail archive is available at > http://www.merit.net/mail.archives/html/routing-problems/ > > Also see http://www.caida.org for more information about Internet > statistics > collection research efforts. > > Reserved Network and Host Announcements > --------------------------------------- > No routing problems were detected >

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