June 1999 - Test - lists.nanog.org

Re: ARIN Difficulties
by Geoff Mohler 23 Jun '99

23 Jun '99

> > Who do you go to, when you've spent a year detailing everything ARIN wants > > when you ask for address space, then they decide to flush an installed and > > operating $2B business plan "just because". > > > > > Just a guess, whomever @home went to? --- Hey, a man's gotta draw a line somewhere *grin* But seriously, ARIN has become an 'issue' to put it lightly.

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bgp flap Jun 22 19:00 PST?
by Dan Hollis 23 Jun '99

23 Jun '99

Someone flapped yesterday around 19:00 PST, taking out our routes through agis/sprint/att/bbn for about an hour. cw and eli looked ok. Any news on what happened? -Dan

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NANOG 17
by Pam Ciesla 23 Jun '99

23 Jun '99

Sheryl: The registration for NANOG 17 is not open yet. It should be available the beginning of July. An announcement will be sent to the NANOG mail list at that time. If you do not belong to the mail list instructions to joined can be found on the webpage http://www.nanog.org. Any questions let me know. Pam ---------------- > Craig, > > I went to the link but there is no info on registering for NANOG, just the > hotel. > > Thanks, > Sheryl Chapin > CommTel Internet Pam Ciesla Merit Network,Inc. 734-936-0172 - phone 4251 Plymouth Road 734-647-3185 Bldg.I, Suite C pam(a)merit.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48107

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ARIN Public Policy Meetings
by Kim Hubbard 23 Jun '99

23 Jun '99

>From its inception, ARIN has been structured to provide a service to the Internet community in an open and fair manner. As part of a continuing effort to involve more of the general public in IP policy development, and thus to gain a broader perspective from the community, ARIN is happy to announce that it will be hosting public policy meetings in an open forum. These public meetings will be open to all parties and individuals interested in being involved in the discussion of IP-related issues, development of global policies, and overall advancement of the Internet. Each year, two meetings will be held over a 2-day period, usually in the spring and fall. Meeting agendas will include reports from ARIN's Advisory Council and from various working groups formed to address focused issues. Since the working groups will be addressing issues that affect others in the community, they will be included in the public meetings to gain a consensus of the attendees. The first Public Policy Meeting is scheduled to be held in Denver, CO, this coming October. Announcements and information about this meeting will be posted on ARIN's website. Also, a mailing list will be created to discuss issues and to keep interested parties up to date on the various activities and announcements. Feel free to browse ARIN's website to keep abreast of developments as they are posted. ARIN looks forward to your participation at these meetings and hopes to see you in October. Regards, Kim Hubbard ARIN

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Internet failures over the next 3 years
by Sean Donelan 23 Jun '99

23 Jun '99

I've been hearing bits and pieces of this report for a few months. It finally showed up on the web Monday. Network Group - An Examination of the NS/EP Implications of Internet Technologies - June 1999 <http://www.ncs.gov/nstac/NSTACReports.html> Its not as bad as I heard. It is definitely written from the bell-head perspective. If it didn't have the compulsive need to compare the Internet to the switched voice network, it would be a better report. I think the report does make a mistake in assuming the government is the source of all NS/EP information. I suspect if you did a survey of all the three-letter government agencies about how they obtained their information and updated anti-virus programs on their super-secret networks for the Melissa and Explorer.ZIP, most of them downloaded the fixes from the vendor web sites just like the rest of us. If they waited for the Black Helicopter (or FedEx) to deliver their 'secure' media they were vulnerable longer since the last several outbreaks occurred on a Friday afternoon or weekend and the fix showed up the following business day. Ignoring the NS/EP part of the report, the operational issues remain. The report does cover most of the major Internet operational vulnerabilities: - The distributed, informal nature of Internet management - The domain name system (DNS) - Critical Internet control software and systems - Procedural errors I'm sure each of us would define the problems a bit differently, but before we get hung up on what "is" is, does anyone care to address the issues as raised? Although you can't put this into your Cisco config, I think this is about as on-topic as we can get for this list. But I would request you at least read the report before responding. Its about 100 pages, and covers a lot of ground. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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22 Jun '99

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DS-3 CESM question - [summary]
by Alex Bligh 22 Jun '99

22 Jun '99

Several people kindly responded to my head-banged-against-a-brick-wall plea for help on getting a DS-3 to work between two cisco PA-2-T3 cards, where the carrier chose to provide this over a CESM interface. Just in case anyone else has to suffer this, here's the useful data I found. The framing (i.e. low level DS-3 framing - *NOT* ATM cell framing) which as I understand it is pretty much the line encoding, operates between the your CPE and the CESM interface at each end. Thus, unlike a "raw" T3, the carrier has to be aware of your line coding. Other than that, they are identical. And for the puzzled - at one end there was a miswire between our router and the telco DDF. Our TX was correctly connected, but our RX was connected to an arbitrary other port with a different type of framing selected on the CESM card. Hence we saw LOF. And the loop tests we asked from 5000 miles away to be applied, were, um, not performed entirely compatibly with scientific method. And yes, it does seem to work (or at least has done for a few hours). Thanks once again for everyone's help. -- Alex Bligh GX Networks (formerly Xara Networks)

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IXC fiber cut in Midland, MI
by Jared Mauch 22 Jun '99

22 Jun '99

Incase anyone has ckts in michigan on IXC. -- snip -- They have a splicing trailer and crew on site (Midland). ETR is 1.5 hours from now. This is a dig that IXC was aware of. As such, they arranged to have an IXC tech on site to supervise. The person running the backhoe didn't want to wait for the tech to arrive this morning and fired up the backhoe and proceeded to destroy the fiber cable. I'm told that words are being exchanged about this. -- snip -- -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared(a)puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine. | "Waste Management Consultant"

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Re: AS 2056 (AOL) access?
by colella＠aol.net 22 Jun '99

22 Jun '99

Send email to peering(a)aol.net. --Richard On Jun 22, 11:15am, nikw(a)martnet.com wrote: > Subject: AS 2056 (AOL) access? > > > Does anyone happen to know how to go about obtaining (purchasing) > connectivity into AOL's network (AS 2056)? I'm looking for DS3 access, to > satisfy colocation/hosting customers who want to be closer to the big > chunk of their customer base that lives on AOL. All of my many attempts > at figuring out who to talk to have thus far been completely fruitless. > Any hints would be appreciated... > > Nik Weidenbacher > Network Engineer > Sungard Network Solutions > nikw(a)sgns.net > nikw(a)martnet.com > >-- End of excerpt from nikw(a)martnet.com

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AS 2056 (AOL) access?
by nikw＠martnet.com 22 Jun '99

22 Jun '99

Does anyone happen to know how to go about obtaining (purchasing) connectivity into AOL's network (AS 2056)? I'm looking for DS3 access, to satisfy colocation/hosting customers who want to be closer to the big chunk of their customer base that lives on AOL. All of my many attempts at figuring out who to talk to have thus far been completely fruitless. Any hints would be appreciated... Nik Weidenbacher Network Engineer Sungard Network Solutions nikw(a)sgns.net nikw(a)martnet.com

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