March 1999 - Test - lists.nanog.org

Re: need i say more?
by Brad S. Dreisbach 18 Mar '99

18 Mar '99

Never trust the whois database. Brad > server a.root-servers.net Default Server: a.root-servers.net Address: 198.41.0.4 > set type=any > internic.net. Server: a.root-servers.net Address: 198.41.0.4 Non-authoritative answer: internic.net nameserver = RS0.internic.net internic.net nameserver = NOC.CERF.NET internic.net nameserver = NS.ISI.EDU internic.net nameserver = NS2.internic.net internic.net nameserver = NS2.NETSOL.COM Authoritative answers can be found from: internic.net nameserver = RS0.internic.net internic.net nameserver = NOC.CERF.NET internic.net nameserver = NS.ISI.EDU internic.net nameserver = NS2.internic.net internic.net nameserver = NS2.NETSOL.COM RS0.internic.net internet address = 198.41.0.5 NOC.CERF.NET internet address = 192.153.156.22 NS.ISI.EDU internet address = 128.9.128.127 NS2.internic.net internet address = 198.41.0.11 NS2.NETSOL.COM internet address = 207.159.77.19 > !Delivered-To: nanog-outgoing(a)merit.edu !X-PH: V4.4@Intrepid !From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell(a)ufp.org> !Subject: Re: need i say more? !To: dts(a)senie.com (Daniel Senie) !Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 11:44:42 -0500 (EST) !Cc: nanog(a)nanog.org !MIME-Version: 1.0 !Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ! !In a previous e-mail, Daniel Senie said: !> "melinda b. thompson" wrote: !> > !> > No match for "INTERNIC.NET". !> !> Makes me feel marginally better about several of my domains not being !> located today. Gotta wonder... ! ! Since it doesn't "exist" I have to wonder if you sent in a !template for that name if you could grab it from them. It would be !quite funny if their own system gave up internic.net. ! !-- !Leo Bicknell - bicknell(a)ufp.org !Systems Engineer - Internetworking Engineer - CCIE 3440 !Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request(a)tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org ! ! ________________________________________________ Brad Dreisbach ~ Unix Systems Engineer digitalNATION ~ www.dedicatedserver.com Phone: 703-642-2800 ~ Fax: 703-642-3747 Work: www.dn.net ~ Personal: home.dn.net/~bradd

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Re: BOZO Alert...Re: They're at it again...
by Bryan A. Ignatow 18 Mar '99

18 Mar '99

At 20:11 3/17/99 -0500, jlewis(a)lewis.org wrote: >On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Joe Shaw wrote: > >> >> Wow. What's with the lag in some of the messages just now being delivered >> from the list? This on is 5 days old. > >Take a closer look at the headers. Some BOZO is bouncing mail back into >several mailing lists. Probably a mail<->news gateway gone bad. I'm >seeing this on nanog, inet-access (I think), and definitely the bb (big >brother) lists. The winner appears to be ignatow(a)paranet.com. > >I've added this to my .procmailrc > >:0: >* ^Received:.*rns-serv\.rsc\.raytheon\.com >dupes > Everyone is allowed one mistake. A very simple mistake in a one time bulk mail move caused the mail to be sent back out. The process was killed when the mistake was discovered, but not before several hundred mail messaged escaped. I apologize for any inconvenience, --- Bryan A. Ignatow Sr. Technical Analyst ignatow(a)sprintparanet.com Sprint Paranet (Intranet Only) http://general.srv.paranet.com/~baignato

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Re: Fwd: Re: [NIC-990226.52da] Suggestion: Add contact entry to whois
by owen＠dixon.DeLong.SJ.CA.US 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

If RWHOIS were the universal mechanism for maintaining domain information, that would be true. Here's my line of thinking: Problem: People constantly look up SPAM sources in whois, send mail to the Tech. contact. Often, the Tech. contact is not the security or abuse contact. This creates workload for the tech contact and delays in getting security and abuse information to the right destination. Solution: Add two contact fields to the WHOIS/RWHOIS/SWIP databases of the world providing for a security and an abuse contact. Sites that don't have seperate contacts would simply repeat the information, much like the existing Admin/Tech/Zone tends to often be the same contact. It seems to me that this is minimal additional effort to obtain much better scalability and usefullness of the information presented. It does not try to solve other problems. It doesn't try to solve the problem of out-of-date contact information, lame delegations, clubies, etc. There are other ways to solve those problems. However, this effort is focused strictly on the problem above. Owen > Owen, > > If you do go via the RFC process, might I offer a suggestion. RWHOIS > would seem to be the natural mechanism for obtaining this information. > Just like DNS database management is in the hands of the domain holder, > abuse contact information could also be. Sites that object on principle > to having the contact information available, wouldn't have to publish > a contact or they could publish a generic contact. > > Relying upon RWHOIS might also force greater acceptance of RWHOIS and > better client software could become available, as well as implementation > of the optional referral feature. > > RWHOIS would also remove the single point of failure that currently > exists in the form of the InterNIC. This might also make bulk > trolling of information from the whois database harder once the > data is distributed across all the domain holders. > > Dan > > -- > Dan Watts > Vitts Networks > dwatts(a)vitts.com >

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someone at ti.com = dups
by Jared Mauch 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

figured i'd mention it, as your mailboxes are already aware. i've sent something to postmaster(a)merit.edu also, hopefully they will squash asap. - jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared(a)puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.

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They're at it again...
by John Fraizer 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

As if it weren't bad enough that the pointy-haired management types are constantly taking credit for any innovation or improvement we make in our day-to-day duties as the keepers of the bits, our beloved Vice President has now decided to take credit for creating the internet! "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." -- Al Gore, Idiot Extraordinare' http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/18390.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ ML.ORG is gone. Check out http://www.EZ-IP.Net - It's *FREE* ------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your *FREE* Parked Domain account at http://www.EZ-Hosting.Com ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Fraizer | __ _ | The System Administrator | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice mailto:John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU http://www.EnterZone.Net/ | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation PGP Key fingerprint = 7DB6 1CA2 DAA6 43DA 3AAF 44CD 258C 3D7E B425 81A8

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Re: They're at it again...
by George Herbert 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com> writes: >>> Now that all these folks have laid claim to inventing the Internet, >>> I wonder who will take the credit (blame?) for inventing the web? >> Berners-Lee ?? > >indeed, tbl deserves much credit for html and the client/server model and >implementation. > >but hypertext, links, etc. were described by vanevar busch (sp?) in 1948. >undoubtedly the sociopaths of the time excoriated him for it. ...and were already in use in gopher and archie, though not to the same ease of use and multimedia expandability, at the time tbl did html/http. I spent a couple of years thinking html wasn't really going to be much of an improvement; it took until I saw a running Mosaic to really see it sink in. In a way, Andreesen and the rest of the uiuc mosaic team deserve a good chunk of the "web" implimentation credit. >From what I can tell, most of what the Web is (and a lot more) were prototyped and/or predicted in Xanadu, which never took flight but seems to have inspired a lot of people towards thinking about things that became the web. So perhaps a bit of credit to Nelson and the others there, though they really established the standard in vaporware... #insert <stdcollaborationwasgoodthingfornet.h> -george william herbert gherbert(a)crl.com

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semi-relevant: router/server serial console access aggregator
by Sanjay Dani 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

Hi, I am looking for recommendations on a small "footprint" (1U) device that is directly accessible via ethernet/IP and dial-in. It will be hosted in a remote data center to access the consoles of several cisco routers and UNIX servers remotely. I have a feeling somebody has built a cheap and reliable linux/bsd/unix based device with sshd, ethernet port and 8 or 16 serial ports. Please send your replies privately. I will post a summary if there is interest. Thanks.

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Can any friend tell me how view Cisco doc in "fvr" fromat? Thanks!(null)
by Yu Ning 16 Mar '99

16 Mar '99

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Smurf amp detection and notification scripts
by Stephen Sprunk 16 Mar '99

16 Mar '99

Since no scripts to do what I was looking for have been forthcoming, I broke down and decided to prove to myself I still know perl. Find attached the following: flow-smurf.pl Takes a sorted output (simple unix sort) from "sh ip cache flow" and finds what it believes are smurf amplifiers. The thresholds for number of bytes, number of flows, prefix length, etc are all tunable. Outputs a list of suspect prefixes. smurf-email.pl Takes a list of prefixes, looks them up in whois, and prints a list of contact email addresses and the associated prefixes. Also emails the contacts if you specify a return address. Requires ipw. Stephen ObRandy: "no ip routing" will stop smurf attacks | | Stephen Sprunk, K5SSS, CCIE #3723 :|: :|: NSA, Network Consulting Engineer :|||: :|||: 14875 Landmark Blvd #400; Dallas, TX .:|||||||:..:|||||||:. Pager: 800-365-4578 / 800-901-6078 C I S C O S Y S T E M S Email: ssprunk(a)cisco.com

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domain IN-ARPA.ADDR
by Jin Yixin 16 Mar '99

16 Mar '99

I was trying to find a way to check whether an IP address is used by some host without actually probing it. DNS sounds like a good way to go, but I'v heard that domain "IN-ARPA.ADDR" is not well maintained and updated. Is that true? If so, how un-dependable it could be? Thanks a lot Yixin Jin UCLA, Computer Science Dept.

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