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Re: MAE-Paris
by mpw＠anyweb.ch 24 Nov '99

24 Nov '99

Paul, no, it doesn't really help because there you can find only SFINX and PARIX :-( Maybe I am wrong but I think PARIX is not MAE-Paris! I have a link from MCI but this one is not quite helpfull... http://www.mae.net/ --Mike Paul Ferguson <ferguson@cis To: mpw(a)anyweb.ch co.com> cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: MAE-Paris 11/24/99 03:25 PM Maybe this will help? http://www.ep.net/naps_eu.html - paul At 03:12 PM 11/24/1999 +0100, mpw(a)anyweb.ch wrote: >Hi everybody, > >because I can't find any information about the MAE-Paris on the web I have >to ask you guys and girls. > >Who can give me an URL, etc. to get more information about this exchange >point? > >thanx > >--Mike > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Mike Portworsnick Network Engineer >AnyWeb AG CCIE# 4985 >Switzerland mpw(a)anyweb.ch > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >

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MAE-Paris
by mpw＠anyweb.ch 24 Nov '99

24 Nov '99

Hi everybody, because I can't find any information about the MAE-Paris on the web I have to ask you guys and girls. Who can give me an URL, etc. to get more information about this exchange point? thanx --Mike --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Portworsnick Network Engineer AnyWeb AG CCIE# 4985 Switzerland mpw(a)anyweb.ch ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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24 Nov '99

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Re: ARIN whois
by Dean Anderson 24 Nov '99

24 Nov '99

This has already been discussed with the FBI, and with attorneys. We are right hands down. The difficulty is doing the collections (actually, finding assets that can be seized) from people who don't want to pay. But I have insurance industry contacts (the insurance industry really knows how to find peoples assets) and some collection agencies willing to take the task. Anyway, I'm not willing to argue this with you. Take this as a statement. You can disagree right up until the tow truck takes your car away. You can still disagree. --Dean Around 07:10 PM 11/22/1999 -0500, rumor has it that Greg A. Woods said: > >[ On Monday, November 22, 1999 at 14:16:25 (-0500), Dean Anderson wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: ARIN whois >> >> Gee. We operated relay services for almost 4 years with only one >> incident before this summer. Since the antispammers started inciting >> attacks, we've been attacked more than 2 dozen times since July. >> Coincidence? I think not. > >I think so. Lots and lots of people are suddenly finding their >previously un-touched open relays are now being abused. Just because >they're suddenly abusing you doesn't mean beans. Join the group, but >please stay in line and don't get pushy -- you're no worse of than any >of the rest. > >> Also, there aren't very many _real spams_ in the attacks. The attacks >> are spamlike, but generally not spam. But the content of the messages >> doesn't matter. I don't care if its spam or not spam. Services >> rendered are worth money. We are entitled to collect the money >> regardless of the purpose of the relayed messages. If the money >> exceeds $5000, the unauthorized access becomes criminal. We complain >> to FBI. The "relayer" will be found. And we are still entitled to the >> money for the services provided. > >No, you're not. No contract was entered into, obviously; and of course >if you didn't protect your services so that they could only be used by >authorised users then there's not much you can do to the so-called >"abusers". This is especially true when there are simple and obvious >technical means of providing guaranteed protection. It's like replacing >the key lock on an unattended service station with a big red manual >on/off switch and changing the neon sign to read "Free Gas -- Help >Yourself!" They're not jimmying the lock because there isn't one! > >-- > Greg A. Woods > >+1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP <gwoods(a)acm.org> <robohack!woods> >Planix, Inc. <woods(a)planix.com>; Secrets of the Weird <woods(a)weird.com> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean(a)av8.com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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RE: Majore North Jersey outage...
by Martin, Christian 24 Nov '99

24 Nov '99

Still feeling the effects -- this outage was big. 2000 (That's right, TWO THOUSAND) DS3s were down for 12 hours or more. Alcatel has been on-site for 9 of them. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:alex@nac.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 12:21 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Majore North Jersey outage... Just spoke to Bell Atl, major DACS failure in 'newark-2', aka 95 williams st., newark. On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Alex Rubenstein wrote: > > > Reports coming in from throughout the state show Fast Packet services > (Frame, ATM), 411, 911, 0, 800, 900 services not working in much of north > jersey (LATA 224). > > Details to follow... > > >

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ARIN whois
by Dean Anderson 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

Can someone send me a list of *all* AOL netblocks? ARIN's whois only gives back a handful. I want to block _all_ AOL netblocks, but its tough to find out what they are. Thanks to a few malicious, radical antispammers (Chris Neill, Alan Brown, etc) we are getting hit with a large number of criminal mail relays. Mostly coming from AOL addresses. We have about a half dozen individual criminal complaints underway. Thanks, --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean(a)av8.com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Bell Atlantic statement on New Jersey outage (Nov 23 1999)
by Sean Donelan 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

Bell Atlantic has issued a press release about the continuing outage in Northern New Jersey. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/991123/ny_bell_at_2.html

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Re: ARIN whois (fwd)
by Jesse Schachter 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Dean Anderson wrote: > > I'm all for working with the community. Each time I have, it has turned out that we need to operate relays. Last time I checked, its not the "community"'s job to administrate your network. That kind of statement is solid proof that you have absolutely no idea what you're doing. Why don't you hire a professional to run your network? Better yet, I'll do it for free if your company promises to fire you, or at least demote you to a position that would put you no where near an electronic device. > Its the foolish people who ASSUME that all of the internet is composed > of cable modems and the company email server, and the internal company > modem bank, all behind a firewall and a VPN who think we don't need to > operate relays. Nobody needs to operate open relays, no matter what. No exceptions. > Try to take relaying out of sendmail, and see what happens. Sendmail is designed to relay. So what? That doesn't mean you're supposed to be an open relay. _.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-*.,_.,+=~'`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-., Jesse Schachter .,. Systems Administrator The Protosource Network .,. Main Number: (888) 643-8558 <JSchachter(a)PSNW.COM> .,. Fax: (559) 490-8630 _.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+*=~`^"-.,_.,+=%~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-.,

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Re: ARIN whois
by Jesse Schachter 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Dean Anderson wrote: > > This has already been discussed with the FBI, and with attorneys. We > are right hands down. The difficulty is doing the collections > (actually, finding assets that can be seized) from people who don't want > to pay. But I have insurance industry contacts (the insurance industry > really knows how to find peoples assets) and some collection agencies > willing to take the task. You can be right all you want. But how much money are you going to get out of these people? Forget about the fact that you have no legal contract with them, direct or implied. You're trying to get money out of people who can't even afford to pay for legitimate advertising, and have to resort to illegal free advertising. You're going to collect, at most, a broken down trailer home. Last time I checked, there is a minimum of 2-3 years worth of waiting involved in getting an FBI investigation into bullshit computer crimes like this. You could stop the problem in a lot less than 2-3 years if you had any kind of clue as to what you're doing. Why don't you stop helping the spammers to ruin the Internet by being an open relay... Read "System Administration for Dummies", and learn how to run a mail server? The bottom line is, you're ignorance is causing the problem, not the spammers. _.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-*.,_.,+=~'`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-., Jesse Schachter .,. Systems Administrator The Protosource Network .,. Main Number: (888) 643-8558 <JSchachter(a)PSNW.COM> .,. Fax: (559) 490-8630 _.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-.,_.,+*=~`^"-.,_.,+=%~`^"-.,_.,+=~`^"-.,

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DACS failures and manual reprogramming
by Sean Donelan 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

I've asked this before, but have never heard a convincing answer. The story is Bell Atlantic has several Alcatel technicians going around and reprogramming the DACS in Northern New Jersey. Why when DACS fails do most telephone companies have to reprogram them manually? Don't they have a download and upload configuration telco's could save somewhere else, and just upload the config when restoring service. It isn't unique to BellAtl, I've experienced the same thing with MCI, Southerwestern Bell, PacBell, and other phone companies. The manual reprogramming seems to drag restoration times out to 18-24 hours. Yeah, I know, I'm the one to talk about backups. I can't even keep my e-mail.

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