September 1998 - Test - lists.nanog.org

Yet another way to look
by bmanning＠ISI.EDU 07 Sep '98

07 Sep '98

(sorry about duplicates) For your viewing pleasure I've taken the 7-Sep-98 ASN delegation file from the ARIN ftp site and stuffed it into the RDI.INT zone. Won't give you the prefixes associated with the ASN, but it does get you another way to look up the contact for a given ASN. (there are some formating problems will will be fixed later) If the contact for any given ASN would like to re-map that entry to their own servers so they can indicate which prefixes they are willing to announce (sort of like the 4555.rdi.int example) they can. And NO, you don;t have to do all that RPSL stuff if you don't want to. The only way to check authoritative announcements is if the prefix delegates add an entry into the in-addr.arpa zones that they maintain to indicate which ASN is expected to be the authoritative announcer for said prefix. If there is interest, I'll keep the zone current with regular updates from ARIN. I don't know if the other RIRs (RIPE, APNIC) update ARIN on a regular basis. If not I can add the information from those registries as well. Comments are appreciated. If you think this is pointless, (and have not already told me so :) I'd appreciate those comments as well. like so: 7% dig 4.rdi.int txt ; <<>> DiG 8.1 <<>> 4.rdi.int txt ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; 4.rdi.int, type = TXT, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: 4.rdi.int. 1d12h IN TXT "ISI-AS;[JKR1-ARIN]" --bill

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Re: European/Asian equivalents to NANOG?
by Jim Fleming 07 Sep '98

07 Sep '98

-----Original Message----- From: Barry Raveendran Greene <bgreene(a)cisco.com> To: nanog(a)merit.edu <nanog(a)merit.edu> Date: Monday, September 07, 1998 2:07 AM Subject: RE: European/Asian equivalents to NANOG? >Well .... > >Lets fill in the E-mail addresses: > > zanog - (south)Africa (do not have it with me) > nanog - North America nanog(a)merit.edu > eof - European eof-list(a)ripe.net > apops - Asia/Pacific apops(a)apnic.net > enredo - Latin America enredo(a)reacciun.ve > >I've heard rumors of another ops list in the Mid-East/Gulf States. > There is also http://www.iops.org but I am not sure if they have done much since the initial web site. Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com End-2-End: VPC(Java)---C+@---<IPv8>---C+@---(Java)VPC http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt http://www.ddj.com/index/author/idx10133.htm

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Re: European/Asian equivalents to NANOG?
by Paul G. Donner 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

Actually, to be more precise, that would be: enredo(a)reacciun.ve >From what I generally see, though, there is a lot of politicking going on on this list. But you should be able to hit some folks that might be interested in what you are doing. English will generally work although you might not get everyone's attention. -Donner p.s. The educated latin americans generally speak two languages also. >>>> <excerpt>At 07:37 PM 9/5/98 -0700, Randy Bush wrote: >> Leaving out South America (onlybecauseIdon'tknow) > >enredo is the closest of which i am aware. A lot of this is conducted in Spanish, the "other" language on this side of the hemisphere. > >randy > > </excerpt><<<<<<<<

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Re: European/Asian equivalents to NANOG?
by Sean M. Doran 05 Sep '98

05 Sep '98

Uhm, how do you give a European routing tutorial without already knowing about RIPE (http://www.ripe.net/) ??? Sean.

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Re: European/Asian equivalents to NANOG?
by Sean M. Doran 05 Sep '98

05 Sep '98

| From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb(a)clark.net> | | At 2:47 PM -0700 9/5/98, Sean M. Doran wrote: | >Uhm, how do you give a European routing tutorial | >without already knowing about RIPE (http://www.ripe.net/) ??? | > | > Sean. | | You don't. But I was asking about operational mailing lists, not | registries. If RIPE has a mailing list separate from the general European | registry function, great. That's what I am asking about. S You mean like the part of the home page at http://www.ripe.net/ where it says "Mailing Lists"? If you missed it, it's at the bottom of the "Services" column at the start of the page... Sean. P.S.: I dont suppose you wanna float your tutorial syllabus on NANOG? --:)

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RE: MAE-EAST / MAE-WEST Interfaces
by Kyle_Bacon/Fnsi/US＠fnsi.net 05 Sep '98

05 Sep '98

Along this thread... Is anyone else having MFS/WorldCom capacity problems getting into the 8100 Boone Blvd MAE-EAST Colocation facility? You'd think that if MFS/WorldCom is interested in a successful ATM MAE, they would have checked capacity into their colo facilties, eh? Does anyone know of other Colo space in the vicinity that does have facilities capacity and cabinet colo space? Thanks! K Deepak Jain <deepak(a)ai.net> on 09/04/98 03:36:45 PM To: Kyle Bacon/Fnsi/US cc: "Bono, Vinny J (CORP, ITDG)" <VBono(a)comstor.com>, Brian Horvitz <horvitz(a)shore.net>, nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: MAE-EAST / MAE-WEST Interfaces Now the real question is, will MFS be offering ATM NAP service-level agreements covering conditions like outages, downtime, or those ever-popular "unannounced scheduled maintenance windows" at 11pm on Friday nights. -Deepak. On Fri, 4 Sep 1998 Kyle_Bacon/Fnsi/US(a)fnsi.net wrote: > > Confirmed with the ATM MAE's Product Manager, Caleb Williford. > > There will be no connectivity between the "legacy" FDDI MAE > and the new ATM based MAE. > > Current FDDI users will most likely pay for FDDI MAE connections > for quite some time in addition to their new ATM MAE connection during > transition. WorldCom/MFS is supposed to be "looking into incentives to > migrate FDDI customers to the ATM side, (see below from Caleb Williford) > > K > > > -- > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:58:15 -0500 > From: "J. Caleb Williford" <jcwillif(a)gwsmtp.wcom.com> > To: jmparks(a)gwsmtp.wcom.com > Subject: Fwd: Re: Scaling of interconnections at MAE-EAST and MAE-WEST > -Reply > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: inline > > Although we are looking into some incentives to migrate customers from the > Legacy platform to ATM, our current pricing is pretty much inline with what > the other ATM-based NAPs are offering (I've pasted the URLs with their > pricing below for your reference). > However, I'd like to point out that there are a number of aspects that are > unique to the new platform (higher actual throughput, scalability to OC-12, > PVCs, etc.). Please call me at your earliest convenience and we can have a > chat about the specifics. > -Caleb > > PacBell NAP: > http://www.pacbell.com/products/business/fastrak/networking/nap/pricing.htm > l > Ameritecy NAP: > http://www.aads.net/napPricing.htm > > > > > > > > > > "Bono, Vinny J (CORP, ITDG)" <VBono(a)comstor.com> on 09/04/98 01:02:27 PM > > To: Brian Horvitz <horvitz(a)shore.net> > cc: nanog(a)merit.edu (bcc: Kyle Bacon/Fnsi/US) > Subject: RE: MAE-EAST / MAE-WEST Interfaces > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Richard Almeida wrote: > > > > > Just be careful here, MFS are launching new ATM MAE's certainlty > > > at Mae-east - but you can only see other ATM connected people > > > > You sure this is true? > > > > Brian > > This is absolutely true. > -vb > > > > >

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Re: European/Asian equivalents to NANOG?
by David R. Conrad 05 Sep '98

05 Sep '98

>Are there equivalent and active lists for European and Asian ISPs? Well, there's apops(a)apnic.net, but I wouldn't exactly call it "active". >If so, how does one sign up? majordomo, apops-request(a)apnic.net Regards, -drc

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Re: Director Database Marketing (Herndon VA US)
by Sean Donelan 05 Sep '98

05 Sep '98

>> how a "competitive procurement" or "peer reviewed" panels could have >> possibly chosen a group with no Internet experience and only a single >> 56Kbps line over the other bids from well-known, well-connected >> (bandwidth-wise) organizations? > >lowball bid Completely unconfirmed rumor, but if I recall correctly didn't Rick Adams offer to do it for free at one point in time? Disclosure: A number of years ago DRA sent a letter to Ann Cooper offering to provide registration and name servers for all the *.lib.*.us domains at no charge. Where are the historians when you need them? Today's router configuration tip: ip classless -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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RE: MAE-EAST / MAE-WEST Interfaces
by Scott, Dan 04 Sep '98

04 Sep '98

NO OC-3 (minimum) connection to the existing FDDI system?? value of location just dropped considerably. Daniel T. Scott Chief Engineer NASA Integrated Services Network (http://www.nisn.nasa.gov) MSFC Information Systems Services Office ******NOTE NEW AREA CODE FOR MSFC ****** 256.544.0131 voice 256.544.2554 fax dan.scott(a)msfc.nasa.gov > ---------- > From: rpa@insnet.net[SMTP:rpa@insnet.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 4:44 PM > To: leigh(a)wisper.net > Cc: czmok(a)ipf.de; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: MAE-EAST / MAE-WEST Interfaces > > Just be careful here, MFS are launching new ATM MAE's certainlty > at Mae-east - but you can only see other ATM connected people > > R > > In a previous message Leigh Porter wrote: > > > > Jan Czmok wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > Does anybody know if the statement > > > > > > "mfs can offer atm ds3 connection to the mae-west and mae-east > ehternet > > > from colo space" > > > issued by a german salesperson is true. > > > > > > According to the www.mfst.com webpage i only see > > > possiblities for 10 Mbit Ethernet, HSSI or FDDI. > > > > Aparrently true since I know somebody who actually got sold > > a similar service. It is actually delivered as bridged FDDI. > > > > -- > > Leigh > > > > > > > > > -- > Richard Almeida email: rpa(a)insnet.net > Technical Director phone: +44 181 239 5000 > Internet Network Services Ltd fax: +44 181 239 5001 > The Education Exchange Ltd (EDEX) mobile: /dev/null >

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Re: Director Database Marketing (Herndon VA US)
by William Allen Simpson 04 Sep '98

04 Sep '98

> From: Stephen Wolff <swolff(a)cisco.com> > SRI lost to NSI in a competitive procurement run by DISA, and SRI turned > over the database to NSI as a consequence. >... > When the dust settled on the peer-reviewed and competitive NSF > solicitation, NSI had won the registration piece; this avoided yet another > transfer of the non-USG-related part of the database to the winner. > Hey, now that you are at Cisco, rather than NSF, maybe you can tell us how a "competitive procurement" or "peer reviewed" panels could have possibly chosen a group with no Internet experience and only a single 56Kbps line over the other bids from well-known, well-connected (bandwidth-wise) organizations? Well-connected politically? I distinctly remember the teething pains of _that_ baby! WSimpson(a)UMich.edu Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32

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