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GTEI/Exodus
by joe＠vpop.net 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

Looks like they settled their peering argument?: GTE Internetworking has joined with Exodus Communications, Inc. to speed up their customers' access to the Internet. [....] http://www.computerworld.com/home/news.nsf/all/9809152gte -joe -- NewsHub: http://www.NewsHub.com/tech/ MultiTrace: http://www.MultiTrace.com/ DomainWatch: http://www.DomainWatch.com/

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Re: TLD whois servers
by Leo Bicknell 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

In article <6ts1pf$dgv(a)gizmo.dimension.net> you write: >[ On Thu, September 17, 1998 at 14:03:01 (-0700), Rodney Joffe wrote: ] >> Subject: TLD whois servers >> >> Does anyone have a partial list that we can incorporate, or pointers to >> resources? > >The most recent version of the list of servers I have collected to use >in my awhois.sh script is always available here: > > ftp://ftp.weird.com/pub/local/ahwois.sh In line with recent discussions I'll point out that rwhois eliminates the need for such things by putting them all inside the system (via referrals). This is one of the reasons I wish we could get a lot of people behind rwhois and make those minor improvments necessary to get it out. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell(a)dimension.net Network Engineer (CCIE #3440) - Dimension Enterprises 1-703-709-7500, fax, 1-703-709-7699

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TLD whois servers
by Rodney Joffe 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

We're in the process of putting together a free tools and resources site for general use of this community. Amongst the things we're putting up (ping and traceroute gateways, looking glass machines, etc) is a smart whois front end that will allow a user to enter a domain name with any tld. The problem is that IANA does not currently require a tld manager/administrator to provide the address of their whois server. In some cases, apparently, there may not even be a whois server. Does anyone have a partial list that we can incorporate, or pointers to resources? We hope to have a useful functioning site by NANOG in Atlanta. /rlj

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Re: COM zone and serials
by Paul Vixie 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

jhawk(a)bbnplanet.com (John Hawkinson) writes: > ... "host" that differs from any of the canonical versions (like that > distributed with bind), etc., etc. I include the NIKHEF version of "host" in the contrib/ directory of BIND. I have not put it into bin/ and replaced Charles Hedrick's version (from which the NIKHEF version was derived) mostly because the NIKHEF version does not subscribe to BIND's various portability-level #include's but also because ISC is not the definitive source of the NIKHEF version of "host" -- and the "bin/" subtree of the BIND source has only things we are the definitive source of. But I personally use the NIKHEF version on my own systems since it is a lot more featureful and better implemented than the BIND version. (That it, I use NIKHEF "host" whenever BIND "DiG" won't do what I need.) -- Paul Vixie La Honda, CA "Many NANOG members have been around <paul(a)vix.com> longer than most." --Jim Fleming pacbell!vixie!paul (An H.323 GateKeeper for the IPv8 Network)

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Packet Loss
by William S. Duncanson 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

Is anyone else seeing high packet loss between ad1-core2-h1-0.atlas.digex.net and mae-east.att.net? -- William S. Duncanson caesar(a)starkreality.com

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RE: hearing word of a fiber cut in virgina
by Martin, Christian 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

Is it me, or has nearly every cut in the past 6 months been Worldcom glass? Do they have any redundant rings? Looks like their growth has been too agressive for sound SONET engineering efforts to be employed. But, hey, they have a lot of glass... Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: SuperTaz [mailto:supertaz@mindspring.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 1:41 AM > To: Martin, Christian > Cc: 'shields(a)crosslink.net'; 'steve(a)altrina.exodus.net'; > 'nanog(a)merit.edu' > Subject: RE: hearing word of a fiber cut in virgina > > > I believe it was repaired around 2230...it was 10 Worldcom > OC-12's/423 > DS3's nice little cut. > > -Taz > On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Martin, Christian wrote: > > > As far as I have heard from MFS, the cut is on a ring > between Bolling > > Green and Fredericksburg. I also understand that it has > been repaired. > > > > Chris > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: shields(a)crosslink.net [mailto:shields@crosslink.net] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 1:15 AM > > > To: SuperTaz > > > Cc: steve(a)altrina.exodus.net; nanog(a)merit.edu > > > Subject: Re: hearing word of a fiber cut in virgina > > > > > > > > > In article <Pine.BSF.3.96.980917005255.2077E-100000@localhost>, > > > SuperTaz <supertaz(a)mindspring.net> wrote: > > > > I believe it was Bolling Green ;P~ > > > > > > No. > > > > > > > -Taz > > > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 steve(a)altrina.exodus.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > Seems to be a MFS fiber cut in Bowling Green, Virgina. > > > This is all > > > > > the information I have at this time. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Steven O. Noble -- Sr. Backbone Engineer, Exodus > > > Communications (EXDS) > > > > > -- Work:408.346.2333 -- > > > > > All my love to the Canadian Mooing Frog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Shields, CrossLink. > > > > > > >

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quick question?
by Kyle D. Smith 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

First of all, i know that this is not the best place to ask this quesiton, but it is the only place that can quickly come to mind... I have a customer who has a block of 62 ip addresses (206.206.162.130 -> 206.206.162.190 and one for network/brodcast). They are current expanding their network, and need around 30 more ip addresses. I went ahead and allocated them the following IP address pool (207.66.81.144 -> 207.66.81.174 with network/brodcast address.) I attempted to use the new address on a Apple Macintosh (PowerMac 6500/75) and it erturned an error message saying that the router was not on the subnet, and that it could not use the new address. I know I should remember how to fix that, but I am not sure what to do.... Any help or guidence would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. =-=-=-=-=-= -Kyle Donald Smith -Systems Administrator -Community Internet Access, Inc. -peaches(a)cia-g.com

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European/Asian equivalents to NANOG?
by Howard C. Berkowitz 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

There is, of course, worldwide input into the NANOG list. Are there equivalent and active lists for European and Asian ISPs? If so, how does one sign up? I'm giving an European routing tutorial and want to be able to refer students to appropriate lists/web pages on exterior routing in their regions. IEPG, of course, also applies. Thanks. Howard

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RE: hearing word of a fiber cut in virgina
by John M. Brown 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

AHAHAHAHAHAH Yes, I'll take a lot of those as well!!! jmbrown(a)ihighway.net At 12:10 AM 9/17/98 -0400, Martin, Christian wrote: >Maybe with a gopher driving it... > >-----Original Message----- >From: scott w [mailto:scott@digisle.net] >Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 11:55 PM >To: Edward S. Marshall >Cc: Craig Partridge; nanog(a)merit.edu >Subject: Re: hearing word of a fiber cut in virgina > > > > >I'll buy a few of them too... :) > > >On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Edward S. Marshall wrote: > >> On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Craig Partridge wrote: >> > More broadly, I had this idea for a NANOG T-shirt. Under the slogan, >> > "Don't Get Mad, Get Even" -- the image of a backhoe lined up in the >crosshairs >> > of a weapon... >> >> Heh. Sign me up...I'll take a few. ;-) >> >> -- >> -------------------. emarshal at logic.net >.--------------------------------- >> Edward S. Marshall `-----------------------' >http://www.logic.net/~emarshal/ >> >

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RE: hearing word of a fiber cut in virgina
by Sean Donelan 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

CMartin(a)mercury.balink.COM (Martin, Christian) writes: >Is it me, or has nearly every cut in the past 6 months been Worldcom >glass? Do they have any redundant rings? Looks like their growth has >been too agressive for sound SONET engineering efforts to be employed. >But, hey, they have a lot of glass... I don't have my papers at home, so this is my recollection. Over the last four years cable cuts and other physical outages seem pretty randomly distributed between AT&T, MCI, Sprint and Worldcom. Some years one carrier has more, other years a different carrier has more. However the affect of an outage has not been equally distributed. Each carrier has its strengths in different markets. Worldcom happens to be fairly strong in the Internet circuit market so you read about Worldcom cable cuts on Internet lists. If you were a financial type, you would have thought MCI had a lot of problems. Remember the cable cut in Manhatten earlier this summer, it affected some Internet traffic but the brokers on wall street were livid. If you were an airline, you would have thought AT&T had a lot of problems. Sprint has problems, but I don't know which market segment it is really strong in. Salespeople for each of the above companies are usually more than willing to give you information about the reliability problems of their competitors. Getting information about their own company is harder. I doubt backhoes or gophers will show any favoritism for or against cable installed new competitors such as Qwest or Level3. Never lose respect for Murphy's power. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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