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RE: Priori ?
by Dave Cooper 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

The Priori Network (parts and pieces) was picked up by ELI. It was not technically an acquisition, just a purchase of contracts and some routers. ELI has taken over the AADS connection, however, due to disconnects placed against the Worldcom ATM uplink to the rest of the old Priori Network (only 1 customer still remains on the old Priori Network), the AADS connection had to be moved to ELI's main facility in Chicago (the Sears Tower) where our OC-3 backbone is terminated. Unfortunately, it came to our attention that it was going to take much longer for Ameritech to move the circuit (alot longer actually). Therefore we had to abruptly drop the connection to the NAP until this move is facilitated. ELI will turn back up the link as soon as Ameritech can get the move completed and will contact peers who wish to reestablish peering with AS 5650. ELI has already converted PAIX and Mae-West from Priori's AS10303 to ELI's AS5650. If you need further information on this, please send mail to peering(a)eli.net and we will respond accordingly. The Priori network has ceased to exist and what *remains* of the network has been folded into the ELI network. Thanks, Dave Cooper ELI Internet Engineering -----Original Message----- From: James Rishaw [SMTP:jamie@dilbert.ais.net] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:18 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Priori ? OK, anyone know the scoop on Priori? Our BGP with them went down yesterday(?) some time. Nobody's answering e-mail, and three of the four listed numbers I've tried have been disconnected.. "www.priori.net" gives NXDOMAIN .. ? -- jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. Tel:312.425.7140, FAX:312.425.7240 -- Your silence will NOT protect you. -- "Did they just ask Don King to come to the lobby?!" - davidr

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RE: CISCO Easter Egg
by Martin, Christian 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

Sean, Why would they use this feature for that purpose? To fake a router crash in order to load new software? Interesting way of "breaking the rules." Chris > > This was put in to allow a small handful of engineers in > various companies > to load new software into boxes outside the maintenance windows > imposed upon them by misguided but fanatical operations management. > > This particular feature saved the Internet on several occasions. > > Sean. >

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root name servers
by noc＠nso.org 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

anybody knows the physical location of all root name servers, or a pointer ? thx /Bert

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FW: Priori ?
by Dave Cooper 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

-----Original Message----- From: Dave Cooper [SMTP:dcooper@eli.net] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 1:04 PM To: 'jamie(a)ais.net'; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: Priori ? The Priori Network (parts and pieces) was picked up by ELI. It was not technically an acquisition, just a purchase of contracts and some routers. ELI has taken over the AADS connection, however, due to disconnects placed against the Worldcom ATM uplink to the rest of the old Priori Network (only 1 customer still remains on the old Priori Network), the AADS connection had to be moved to ELI's main facility in Chicago (the Sears Tower) where our OC-3 backbone is terminated. Unfortunately, it came to our attention that it was going to take much longer for Ameritech to move the circuit (alot longer actually). Therefore we had to abruptly drop the connection to the NAP until this move is facilitated. ELI will turn back up the link as soon as Ameritech can get the move completed and will contact peers who wish to reestablish peering with AS 5650. ELI has already converted PAIX and Mae-West from Priori's AS10303 to ELI's AS5650. If you need further information on this, please send mail to peering(a)eli.net and we will respond accordingly. The Priori network has ceased to exist and what *remains* of the network has been folded into the ELI network. Thanks, Dave Cooper ELI Internet Engineering -----Original Message----- From: James Rishaw [SMTP:jamie@dilbert.ais.net] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:18 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Priori ? OK, anyone know the scoop on Priori? Our BGP with them went down yesterday(?) some time. Nobody's answering e-mail, and three of the four listed numbers I've tried have been disconnected.. "www.priori.net" gives NXDOMAIN .. ? -- jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. Tel:312.425.7140, FAX:312.425.7240 -- Your silence will NOT protect you. -- "Did they just ask Don King to come to the lobby?!" - davidr

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Re: CISCO Easter Egg
by Tony Li 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

> Not only interesting, but dishonest. Sometimes, honesty is not the best way to get a job done. This is why society functions best with a 'little white lie'. > Forcing a company to spend money on false premise is tantamount to theft > or conversion. I believe that there is some confusion here. There was no money that changed hands. There was no requirement to upgrade imposed by Cisco. The conflict that Sean cites is wholly internal to the company running the network. If operations insists that a box not be rebooted even though the network is not operational, that sometimes leaves the network engineer in a difficult position: they can't repair the problem and they can't repair the problem. At the same time, the command was installed so that Cisco could actually test crash procedures. [Yes, you do have to test them. Yes, it helps if there is a deterministic and constant way of testing them. ;-) ] Thus, from Cisco's viewpoint, this was simply exposing an existing mechanism. Tony

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Re: Linux Router KIT
by Dean Anderson 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

>Actually, a cisco may actually double as a toaster, a foot-warmer at the >least <grin>. I thought that the little door on the top of a 7513 was for a pizza warmer. ;-) --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean(a)av8.com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Re: Rootshell pages hacked
by Adam D. McKenna 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

I was wondering when this was going to reach NANOG. Right now all there is is a lot of speculation. No "real" info. I would encourage everyone not to jump to conclusions (as the bugtraq poster did). --Adam -----Original Message----- From: neil <neil(a)junior.uwc.ac.za> To: Russ Haynal <russ(a)navigators.com> Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu <nanog(a)merit.edu> Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:34 PM Subject: Rootshell pages hacked Hi there. Apparently rootshell.com pages had been hacked this morning by crackers using ssh-1.2.26.? Any got more news about this event, regards "May you live in interesting times" by chinese ppl

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Re: CISCO Easter Egg
by Sean M. Doran 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

Bernhard Kroenung wrote: | One of the nice features of a CISCO-Router is the ability to simulate a | crash of the system - just type "test crash" - and they crash happily ever after | This was put in to allow a small handful of engineers in various companies to load new software into boxes outside the maintenance windows imposed upon them by misguided but fanatical operations management. This particular feature saved the Internet on several occasions. Sean.

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Fwd: nanog in usenet
by Pam Ciesla 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

>From: Chris Callison <chrisc(a)clbooks.com> >To: "'pam(a)merit.edu'" <pam(a)merit.edu> >Subject: nanog in usenet >Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:40:08 -0800 >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Can I see nanog in USENET rather than as a mailing list? > >Christopher N. Callison >Senior Network/NT Administrator >computerliteracy (bookshops+online) >e-mail: chrisc(a)clbooks.com >phone: 408.541.2020 x410 >http://www.clbooks.com >

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RE: CISCO Easter Egg
by Bill Woodcock 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

"Martin, Christian" writes: > Forcing a company to spend money on false premise is tantamount > to theft or conversion. That cisco gives them the opportunity > for doing so is aiding an abetting. You appear to have mistakenly cross-posted this from NANAG, the North American Network Accountants Group. -Bill

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