October 1998 - Test - lists.nanog.org

ISP communities
by Philippe Strauss 22 Oct '98

22 Oct '98

Hi there, Is there any web site summarizing communities defined by major ISP? I'm looking for UUnet (AS701), MCI (euhh C&W sorry) (AS3561), BT (AS5400). Of course, their communities are not published in the whois database, like UU europe (AS702), Ebone (AS1755), Swisscom (AS3303). TIA, Cheers. -- Philippe Strauss, ingenieur systeme/reseau, Urbanet SA philippe.strauss(a)urbanet.ch tel +41 21 623 30 20 --

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Re: Actions to quiet the Smurf amplifiers?
by Phil Howard 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

> If you search on the Cisco web page, you'll probably find it > under "reverse-path" or "reverse-path forwarding" - only works > for singly homed customers. Then it is merely similar, and not identical, to what I described. What I described included the notion that the source address must be in the set of all (not just the best) routes back. The theory on this is that even most asymmetric routing will have a lesser route that would be symmetric. Of course some really goofed assymetric routes do often appear and those may be trouble. Still, the place where ISPs should apply it is all the interfaces _other_ _than_ their border interfaces. They will have control over their own routing symmetry (hopefully) and the logic (at least as I describe it) applies to packets coming _in_ on an interface, not those going out. -- -- *-----------------------------* Phil Howard KA9WGN * -- -- | Inturnet, Inc. | Director of Internet Services | -- -- | Business Internet Solutions | eng at intur.net | -- -- *-----------------------------* philh at intur.net * --

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VHSN 98 is coming!
by Account of Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

*************************************************************** 9th Maryland Workshop on Very High Speed Networks December 14-15, 1998 *************************************************************** Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research University of Maryland Baltimore County Supported by CISCO, Nortel Networks and CESDIS/NASA The Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research (MCTR) at the University of Maryland Baltimore County (UMBC) will hold the 9th Maryland Workshop on Very High Speed Networks (VHSN '98) on December 14-15, 1998. The Workshop will be held in the Ballroom of the University Center on the UMBC campus. The goal of the workshop is to provide a forum where researchers and developers can meet to exchange ideas and report on leading- edge developments in the area of high speed networks. Each of the previous workshops attracted approximately 150 researchers representing academia, industry and government. The two day meeting will include invited speakers and contributed presentations. Papers on selected presentations will appear in a special issue of the Journal of High Speed Networks. The agenda, driving directions, and other information regarding the conference can be found at the URL http://www.mctr.umbc.edu. A registration fee of $350 will include two lunches and conference proceeding. For questions regarding the technical content of the workshop or giving a presentation, please contact the workshop organizer: Dr. Deepinder Sidhu, Tel: (410) 455-3028 or 3063, Fax: (410) 455-3969, Email: mctr(a)cs.umbc.edu. Mail checks (payable to University of Maryland Foundation) and registration form to Dr. D. Sidhu, Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research, University of Maryland Baltimore County, 1000 Hilltop Circle, Baltimore, MD 21250. All funds for this event will be managed by the UM foundation. Please DO NOT include hotel accommodation expenses in your payment for the Workshop Registration. Room payment should be made directly to the hotel you selected for stay. The following hotels are closest to UMBC campus. Some hotels may offer reduced rate. To obtain the reduced rate, you must identify yourself as an attendee of this workshop. BWI Airport is approximately five miles from UMBC Campus. * Sheraton International Hotel - BWI Airport. Closest to airport and UMBC campus. Tel: (410) 859-3300 or (800) 638-5858 * Holiday Inn - BWI Airport. Close to airport and UMBC campus. Tel: (410) 859-8400 or (800) HOLIDAY * Omni Inner Harbor Hotel. Close to Downtown Baltimore/Inner Harbor. About 20 minutes drive to UMBC campus. Tel: (410) 752-1100 or (800) 843-6664 For more information on the workshop and directions to UMBC, check our home page on WWW (http://www.mctr.umbc.edu) --------------------------------------------------------------- VHSN '98 REGISTRATION FORM (December 14-15, 1998) Name: Affiliation: Address: Tel: Fax: Email: Dietary Restrictions: Vegetarian ------ Kosher -------- ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Summary: Data Center Design Mailing List
by Jeffrey C. Ollie 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

I posted a summary from home last night, but I haven't seen it come through yet so I'm reposting this slightly revised edition. Thanks to everyone that responded to my query about mailing lists on data center design. It turns out that there is already a list dedicated to this purpose: send a message to majordomo(a)shorty.com with "subscribe datacenter" in the body. There is a companion mailing list hosted on the same server called "dce" that is for trading and/or selling used data center equipment. Thanks to Robbie Honerkamp for running these lists and pointing them out to me. Thanks also to the kind folks that offered resources to run a mailing list. Jeff

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Summary: Data Center Design Mailing List
by Jeffrey C. Ollie 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

Thanks to everyone that responded to my query about mailing lists on data center design. It turns out that there is already a list dedicated to this purpose: send a message to majordomo(a)shorty.com with "subscribe datacenter" in the body. There is a companion mailing list hosted on the same server called "dce" that is for trading and/or selling used data center equipment. Jeff

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Re: Wired News on Backhoe Troubles
by Sean Donelan 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

>Participants in the North American Network Operators Group email >discussion list -- the primary shop talk forum for telecom and ISP >engineers -- have been bandying about ideas for a new T-shirt. The backhoe is the usual suspect. And this week the U.S. government is launching its Y2K awareness campaign. Texas network facilities are still drying out. None of which I really want to think about at the moment (my brain is fried on appletalk and who cares about CLNS). But does anyone have predictions for next year's Rodent Of the Year? A couple of years ago it was a wayward Stanford rat which blacked out a bit of the net in San Francisco. Although some conspiricy theoriests claim the rat was made a scapegoat. The rat did get a T-Shirt. I think this year's winner was a hungry gopher which gnawed through some fiber optic in New Mexico. Do sharks still like to chew on trans-oceanic cables? LessonsLearned: Did you know standby generator makers have a universal key for the maintenance hatches on your generator sitting outside your building. All 'authorized' service people all over the country have it. How many folks knew there was a black market for generator starting batteries? How many folks have ever gone outside to their generator and found the battery gone? When was the last time you checked? How many folks have tamper switches on their generator panels? How many folks just picked up the phone to have their facilities people install some? -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Who do we appreciate...?
by Jay R. Ashworth 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

This seemed pertinent... -----Forwarded message from RFC Editor <rfc-ed(a)ISI.EDU>----- To: rfc-dist(a)rfc-editor.org Subject: RFC 2468 on I REMEMBER IANA Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:19:23 -0700 From: RFC Editor <rfc-ed(a)ISI.EDU> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 2468: Title: I REMEMBER IANA Author(s): V. Cerf Status: Informational Date: October 1998 Mailbox: vcerf(a)mci.net Pages: 4 Characters: 8543 Updates/Obsoletes/See Also: None I-D Tag: None URL: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2468.txt Jon, our beloved IANA, is gone. Even as I write these words I cannot quite grasp this stark fact. We had almost lost him once before in 1991. Surely we knew he was at risk as are we all. But he had been our rock, the foundation on which our every web search and email was built, always there to mediate the random dispute, to remind us when our documentation did not do justice to its subject, to make difficult decisions with apparent ease, and to consult when careful consideration was needed. We will survive our loss and we will remember. He has left a monumental legacy for all Internauts to contemplate. Steadfast service for decades, moving when others seemed paralyzed, always finding the right course in a complex minefield of technical and sometimes political obstacles. This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF list and the RFC-DIST list. Requests to be added to or deleted from the IETF distribution list should be sent to IETF-REQUEST(a)IETF.ORG. Requests to be added to or deleted from the RFC-DIST distribution list should be sent to RFC-DIST-REQUEST(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Details on obtaining RFCs via FTP or EMAIL may be obtained by sending an EMAIL message to rfc-info(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG with the message body help: ways_to_get_rfcs. For example: To: rfc-info(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG Subject: getting rfcs help: ways_to_get_rfcs Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the author of the RFC in question, or to RFC-Manager(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Unless specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for unlimited distribution.echo Submissions for Requests for Comments should be sent to RFC-EDITOR(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Please consult RFC 2223, Instructions to RFC Authors, for further information. Joyce K. Reynolds and Alegre Ramos USC/Information Sciences Institute -----End of forwarded message----- -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra(a)baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Buy copies of The New Hackers Dictionary. The Suncoast Freenet Give them to all your friends. Tampa Bay, Florida http://www.ccil.org/jargon/ +1 813 790 7592

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Jon Postel (Flowers & Donations) (fwd)
by Forrest Houston 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

I thought some people here might be interested in knowing this. This is for general distribution so please forward it on to where you feel it is appropriate. Please remove my name though as I already get enough mail as it is :-) Thanks Forrest Houston USC/ISI - IPCe [cut here] ---------------- Forwarded mail ---------------------- Jon's family has issued the following statement regarding flowers and donations: In lieu of flowers... Two funds have been established by the Internet Society: one for an endowed chair at UCLA and the other to endow an award for someone whose service to the Internet honors Jon's memory. Checks can be sent to: Jonathan B. Postel Endowed Chair Fund or Jonathan B. Postel Service Award Fund Internet Society 12020 Sunrise Valley Drive Suite 210 Reston, VA 20191-3429 USA Tel: 703-648-9888 Donations may be also directed in Jon's name to: The Sierra Club 3435 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 320 Los Angeles, CA 90010 Tel: 213-387-4287 The California Arboretum Foundation 301 N. Baldwin Ave Arcadia, CA 91007 Tel: 626-447-8207 The Red Cross [any chapter in the world] ...or to any charity of your choice. You can electronically post a condolence message about Jon by sending it to postel-condolences(a)isoc.org. They're being collected and displayed at http://www.isco.org/postel/condolences.shtml ----------------------------------------------------

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Re: WARNING: AOL is hosed (again)
by Sean Donelan 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

markb(a)infi.NET (Mark Borchers) writes: >Yep, somebody modified the delegation via a forged domain >modification email. An emergency root server update has been done to >correct the problem. Gosh, I wonder if NSI would do an emergency root server update for me. Perhaps it would be a good time to review the Guardian documentation. Is there a way to review what the Guardian settings are for various objects? -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Data Center Design Mailing List?
by Jeffrey C. Ollie 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

I've been extremely interested in the discussion that has happened lately regarding design considerations for data centers. I'm interested in having some more detailed discussions on this subject but I'm not sure that NANOG is the best place for such a discussion. If there isn't a list already out there for this purpose I'd be willing to host a mailing list on a system of mine (assuming that enough people participate). Comments? Jeff

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