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Re: IAHC Backtracks on Registrar Lottery
by Matthew E. Pearson 08 May '97

08 May '97

At 07:58 AM 5/8/97 +0300, Hank Nussbacher wrote: >Exactly as you stated. An applicant still has to be qualified as per the >previous rules. It is just that after you are qualified - there is no >lottery and you become part of the Council Of REgistrars. Ok... what exactly are the qualifications to become a registrar? The document says "these may change" what if anything have they changed to? Can someone restate them again? Any official URL or docs on this? M ------------------------------------------------- Matthew E. Pearson Vice President of Development Games-Online Inc. http://www.games-online.com

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IAHC Backtracks on Registrar Lottery
by Cameo Wood 08 May '97

08 May '97

Acting only five days after its highly publicized adoption of a new system of registering new domain names, the International Ad Hoc Committee announced Tuesday that it will remove its limit on registrars. Under a memorandum of understanding signed last week, the IAHC limited the number of name registrars to 28 worldwide, to be selected by lottery. Citing "consistent and universal criticism," the IAHC announced that any service meeting financial and technical qualifications will be eligible to become a registrar. No lottery will be held.

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RE: NEWDOM: The Root 64 Challenge
by Jim Fleming 07 May '97

07 May '97

On Wednesday, May 07, 1997 5:02 PM, Timothy Brown[SMTP:tbrown@I1.NET] wrote: @ # @ Who will develop this list? @ # @ # Maybe the ISP/C could take this on as a project @ # and keep a running list on their web site. @ @ As we have said numerous times, the ISP/C does not currently and will not @ in the foreseeable future have the resources to run any TLD functions, @ period. This includes the Fleming model (s0.g0), eDNS, IAHC, name.Space, @ etcetera. While it may be said that there are directors on the Board who @ would like to see this as a viable option, those directors may be leaving @ in the coming term. @ @ Speaking for myself and NOT the ISP/C, @ Timothy Brown @ Keeping a list of several hundred or up to 2,048 ASCII names is not very much work, especially when you mostly add to the list. Rather than have the FCC maintain the list, it seems easier to have some group with a vested interest and the experience to keep the list coherent. I was not referring to any name server operations, just a list of known TLDs seen around the net. Here is a sample... 800 AD AE AG AGN AI AL AM AN AO AQ AR ARPA ART ARTS AT AU AUDIO AUTO AW AZ BA BB BE BF BG BH BI BIZ BJ BM BN BO BR BS BW BY BZ CA CF CG CH CI CITY CK CL CM CN CO COM CORP CR CU CV CY CZ DE DJ DK DM DO DOT DZ EARTH EC EDU EE EG ER ES ET EUR EXP FAM FCN FI FJ FM FO FR FREE GAY GB GD GE GES GF GG GH GI GL GN GOV GP GR GT GU GW GY HIGGS HK HN HR HU ID IE IL IM IN INC INT IR IS IT JE JM JO JP JPN K12 KE KH KI KN KR KW KY KZ LA LAW LB LC LI LK LNX LS LT LTD LU LV MA MAIL MALL MC MD MED METRO MEX MG MH MIL MK ML MM MN MO MP MR MT MU MV MW MX MY MZ NA NC NE NET NEWS NF NG NI NIC NL NO NP NPO NUM NZ OM ORG PA PE PER PF PG PH PHONE PK PL PR PRO PT PY QA RO RU RW SA SB SE SEA SG SHOP SI SK SM SN SR SU SV SY SZ TC TG TH TN TO TOUR TR TT TV TW TZ UA UG UK US USA USVI UY UZ VA VC VE VI VN VU WEB WS WTV XXX YE YU Z ZA ZM ZONE ZOO ZR ZW Why is that so hard ? P.S. Armed with this list and a list of one server from each of the active Root Name Server Confederations one can derive a view of most of the useful information on the net using standard tools. "Syncing" the various Root Name Server Confederations involves checking each confederation for their "view" of each TLD and comparing that with the other Confederations. The deltas (problems) show up very quickly. -- Jim Fleming Unir Corporation http://www.Unir.Corp Check out...http://Register.A.Mall

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RE: NEWDOM: The Root 64 Challenge
by Jim Fleming 07 May '97

07 May '97

On Wednesday, May 07, 1997 12:23 PM, Michael Dillon[SMTP:michael@memra.com] wrote: @ On Wed, 7 May 1997, Jim Fleming wrote: @ @ > Imagine that the board can be arranged so that @ > the servers that are "nearest" to each other are @ > near each other on the board. If you pick any @ > square on the board, it has exactly 8 neighbors @ > assuming the board wraps at the edges and is @ > really mapped to a sphere. @ @ When you wrap the edges of a chessboard, it maps to a torus, *NOT* a @ sphere. @ @ > 1. Develop a MERGED list of ALL of the Top Level @ > Domains that are used any where in the world by @ > any TLD Registry and limit the list to 2,048 names. @ @ Who will develop this list? Maybe the ISP/C could take this on as a project and keep a running list on their web site. @ How will these people be chosen? First-come, first-serve...?...I do not think there are close to 2,048 TLDs with registries. @ What criteria will they use to limit their list? First-come, first-serve....? @ @ > 4. Deploy 8 Root Name Server Confederations @ > of 8 servers each and figure out the optimal @ > arrangement on an 8 by 8 grid based on network @ > connections. @ @ Internet topology is too complex to map to an 8 by 8 grid. @ These are just Root Name Servers... expanding from 9 legacy servers to 64 seems like a step in the right direction. If you like, just have 8 rows of 8. A Confederation can be a single row. -- Jim Fleming Unir Corporation http://www.Unir.Corp Check out...http://Register.A.Mall

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'Nic database hoseD?
by Scott Call 07 May '97

07 May '97

Just tried to help someone track a spammer, and found out the 'nic database has been in better shape: whois sc386 [rs.internic.net] Sorry, you shouldn't see this record. whois ccnet.com [rs.internic.net] [No name] (ID?) NE14 COM -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- |Scott Call | Negawaku wa, | |Network Engineer | hana no shita nite haru si-nan, | |CCnet, Inc | sono kisaragino mochizuki-no koro. | ------------------------------------Saigyo-----------------------

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Re: IAHC Backtracks on Registrar Lottery
by sob＠academ.com 07 May '97

07 May '97

> It is statements like these (which have appeared with some regularity > in the past) that make me believe that IAHC/iPOC have in mind a single > monolithic database for all TLDs... Do you mean gTLDs? I never thought that IHAC/iPOC was planning to have the database deal with the country-code-based TLDs. Did I miss something? -- Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob(a)academ.com Olan | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: {mcsun|amdahl}!academ!sob Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.

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The Root 64 Challenge
by Jim Fleming 07 May '97

07 May '97

Some people can continue to play games. Most peple involved in the Registry Industry have moved beyond this and are now deploying real servers on real networks. In my opinion, there is still a lot of room on the "Root 64" chessboard. This board is 8 by 8 and has room for 8 Root Name Server Confederations, each with 8 Root Name Servers. At the moment, there are only 5 Root Name Server Confederations actively in use: AlterNIC eDNS InterNIC (Legacy) name.space NSI/ISI Imagine that the board can be arranged so that the servers that are "nearest" to each other are near each other on the board. If you pick any square on the board, it has exactly 8 neighbors assuming the board wraps at the edges and is really mapped to a sphere. Because of technical limits of the current "named" technology used by many companies, people are forced to select only one Root Name Server Confederation. This is like saying that they must select all of the servers in one row of the Root 64 board. More modern versions of the "named" software will be able to work around this limit. In the future, an ISP will be able to pick a square on the board that represents the best location for that ISP from a connectivity point of view. When the ISP does that, the surrounding collection of Root Name Servers will form that ISPs confederation. In order to do this in the future, it is important to have all of the Root Name Server Confederations "in synch". To be in synch, the Root Name Servers should provide referrals for the same collection of TLDs and provide the same set of referrals to the TLD Name Servers that support that TLD. If people are really interested in working together there are three easy steps to meet the "Root 64 Challenge". 1. Develop a MERGED list of ALL of the Top Level Domains that are used any where in the world by any TLD Registry and limit the list to 2,048 names. 2. Locate the TLD Name Servers that service each Top Level Domain. 3. Make sure that all recognized Root Name Servers support the top 2,048 TLDs and provide referrals to the proper TLD Name Servers. 4. Deploy 8 Root Name Server Confederations of 8 servers each and figure out the optimal arrangement on an 8 by 8 grid based on network connections. 5. Convene the various Root Name Server Confederations to represent the 64 Root Name Servers on the board. There are 5 now, and room for 3 more. Encourage this convention to bring the 64 servers into "synch". These are real steps that will result in working systems. If the Root 64 Challenge is met, then people everywhere will have a coherent Internet and many choices on Top Level Domain Names and Root Name Server Confederations to use for support. Think global and act local... -- Jim Fleming Unir Corporation http://www.Unir.Corp Check out...http://Register.A.Mall

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'nic, and on a different note...
by Janet Pippin 07 May '97

07 May '97

anyway.. crush@noc 187 ~ > wi agis.net DNS3615-HST PHANT4-HST (ID?) jdp@mailhost 135 > wi mcs.net [No name] (ON14-ORG ) COM HOUSEOFKIDS.COM -- Janet Pippin * CyberRamp Internet Services Network Administrator *** 11350 Hillguard Road jdp(a)cyberramp.net * Dallas, Texas 75243-8311 http://www.cyberramp.net * (214) 340-2020 (817) 226-2020

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la la la.. 'nic..
by Janet Pippin 07 May '97

07 May '97

hrm... crush@noc 186 ~ > wi mit.edu [No name] (University of Montevallo) SN35 -- Janet Pippin * CyberRamp Internet Services Network Administrator *** 11350 Hillguard Road jdp(a)cyberramp.net * Dallas, Texas 75243-8311 http://www.cyberramp.net * (214) 340-2020 (817) 226-2020

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Eh.. Internic..
by Golan Ben-Oni 07 May '97

07 May '97

whois sprint.net [No name] (Poor Richard's Publishing) RW535 3 D To see this organization record with registered members, repeat the command with a star ('*') before the name; or, use '%' to show JUST the registered members. The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.

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