November 1997 - Test - lists.nanog.org

new pretty pictures of address space visibility
by k claffy 27 Nov '97

27 Nov '97

http://www.caida.org/IPv4space/ (from hwb who didn't want to post cause the text isn't really ready but i figured nanog folks wouldn't read the text anyway and the pictures speak more to than the text will anyway) this probably belongs on big-internet or ipv6 some other list i'm not on and don't know if exists anymore anyway so delete/forward if you want k/hwb ps yes it would be nice to have animations of this in real-time throughout the last few years but we don't have such historical data so oh well comments/feedback welcome anyway

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Update on land.c and Cisco
by John Bashinski 27 Nov '97

27 Nov '97

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- A new version of the field notice covering Cisco products and land.c has been posted at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/770/land-pub.shtml Rather than post the ever-growing full text yet again, I'll summarize the changes: 1. The last version said that Catalyst 5000 switches were vulnerable. This was based on a report from a customer. We've now tried it in house and been unable to reproduce it. If there is in fact any vulnerability in the Catalyst 5000, it requires some environmental condition not present in our labs to trigger it. We will continue to investigate this until we have it nailed down. 2. Catalyst switches other than the Catalyst 5000 don't appear to be vulnerable... and don't share any TCP code with the 5000. 3. We have some initial results indicating some level of vulnerability in the BPX and IGX WAN switches and in the AXIS shelf, but only when they're attacked through their management ports, which typically aren't exposed to the Internet or other large, potentially hostile networks. We don't have a lot of details yet. Please read the notice on the Web to see what little information we do have. There is no new information about IOS or IOS/700. Please do me the favor of checking the full text of the advisory before sending in any questions. We have very limited staff to deal with questions about these notices. Future updates, by the way, will be posted with a "From" address of "security-alert(a)cisco.com". -- J. 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RADB not accepting updates?
by David M. Meyer 27 Nov '97

27 Nov '97

Has anyone had success updating the RADB this afternoon? I haven't. Dave

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RE: Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund
by jodi 27 Nov '97

27 Nov '97

Observations : 1. Is this an organization for Domain Names for registering them and maintaining them , and developing global policy ?? 2. If this Person has breached federal telecommunication regulations ? if so . then must pay for the crimes as set down in the countries law.!!!! 3. Defense Fund , if people want to help this person , this should not be connected in anyway to this organization or this may be seen around the world as an incorrect organization policy !!!!!!! 4. I am confused over the role of the CORE know because of this discussion on a issue that doesn't concern the domain registration or GLTD policy development. Yours Sincerely Brian Burnett President PacificaNet -----Original Message----- From: owner-gtld-discuss(a)imc.org On Behalf Of Bob Allisat Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:33 PM To: Geoff White Cc: Karl Denninger; Marc Hurst; Paul A Vixie; nanog(a)merit.edu; newdom(a)ar.com; iwar(a)iwar.org; gtld-discuss(a)gtld-mou.org Subject: Re: Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund I wrote: >> Eugene talked the talk *AND* walked the >> walk. None of you other people have. So >> pay up. Or shut up. Freedom is freedom. >> And it has often has a high price. Pay >> it or lose it. There will be many more >> who may choose to follow Eugene in the >> months and years to come. You who have >> been dragging your heels and delaying Geoff White replied: >Eugene is not a freedom fighter or a patriot or >anything like that.He is a fool, and a stupid fool at that. >The only thing that he accomplished by his act was a bit of ego >stroking and a lot of grief for the rest of the community. We shall see what happens in the days and months and years ahead. Only time will tell who is right. What Kashpureff did was imperfect. But what everyone else does is sweet phuck all. TeleVirtually Yours, Bob Allisat Director, World TeleVirtual Network http://www.wtv.net PO Box 191 St E Toronto Canada M6H 4E2 tor(a)wtv.net (416) 534-1999 http://www.wtv.net/portfolio.html

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are your routers having a hot time tonight?
by Randy Bush 27 Nov '97

27 Nov '97

mae-west#sh env last RSP(6) Inlet previously measured at 33C/91F ^^^^^^^ mae-east#sh env la RSP(2) Inlet previously measured at 19C/66F paix#sh env la RSP(6) Inlet previously measured at 19C/66F randy

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I'm sorry...
by George Herbert 26 Nov '97

26 Nov '97

Someone please thwap me upside the head in private email if I argue with Eugene and don't edit nanog out of the headers ever again. Some weeks it just doesn't pay to get out of bed. -george william herbert gherbert(a)crl.com

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Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund
by Bob Allisat 26 Nov '97

26 Nov '97

http://httpd.com/press/defense.html: > > Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund > > To Contribute To Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund by Wire Transfer: > > To: EUGENE KASHPUREFF DEFENCE FUND > C/O: The ROYAL BANK OF CANADA > 1 Main Street North > BRAMPTON, Ontario L6X 1M8 > > TRANSIT NO: 00482 ACCOUNT NO: 100-274-0 http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,16763,00.html: > > Fund created for AlterNIC founder > By Janet Kornblum > November 24, 1997, 2:10 p.m. PT > > Jailed AlterNIC cofounder Eugene Kashpureff is strapped for cash and > his business partner has set up a legal fund for him. > > Diane Boling is asking people to contribute to the Eugene Kashpureff > Defense Fund at the Royal Bank of Canada. > TeleVirtually Yours, Bob Allisat Director, World TeleVirtual Network http://www.wtv.net PO Box 191 St E Toronto Canada M6H 4E2 tor(a)wtv.net (416) 534-1999 http://www.wtv.net/portfolio.html

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RE: Advisory - tunneling of IP at exchange points.
by Dave Van Allen 26 Nov '97

26 Nov '97

Hi, Craig, that's all been done, cisco verified the troubles and anomalies here on-site, all info has been transmitted to them now for months. The BUGid description is worded incorrectly as I said, so you can't really glean meaningful info from just the description. I opened that ticket and it has been very frustrating indeed. You're right, it's a valuable tool however it is verifiably broken in certain instances. I was just cautioning anyone who needed to count on it. Happy holidays! Best regards, David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation dave(a)fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) http://www.fast.net FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig A. Huegen [SMTP:chuegen@quadrunner.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 1997 10:35 AM > To: Dave Van Allen > Cc: 'Paul Thornton'; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: RE: Advisory - tunneling of IP at exchange points. > > On Wed, 26 Nov 1997, Dave Van Allen wrote: > > ==>We find log-input to very unreliable and often producing wrong > ==>information. It indeed operates differently across the 11.1 train > (no > ==>comment on 11.2 offered) I think 11.1.15 breaks it badly. Albeit > ==>improperly worded and not well defined in print on CCO, please > reference > ==>cisco BUGid CSCdj40503 prior to trusting log-input for any valid > info. > > CSCdj40503 simply fixes a problem where packets are not logged under > certain conditions. It doesn't change any information. > > I've never seen a problem with log-input reporting bad information; if > you > have and can reproduce, please document and contact your normal > support > channels to fix this valuable tool. > > /cah

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Living in a disfunctional list (Was Re: Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund (fwd))
by Mark Milhollan 26 Nov '97

26 Nov '97

>* ^From: .*tor(a)wtv.net.* >/dev/null Better add ... * ^Subject:.*Kashpureff /dev/null ... as well -- at least for a while.

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RE: Advisory - tunneling of IP at exchange points.
by Dave Van Allen 26 Nov '97

26 Nov '97

Thanks Paul, wonderful job. Side-note (taken from the exploit write-up http://www.linx.net/tunnel-advisory.txt) >// Adding "log-input" to the end of each access-list line will log >// the hardware address of the sender for good measure. IOS 11.1 >// and upwards only (from memory) We find log-input to very unreliable and often producing wrong information. It indeed operates differently across the 11.1 train (no comment on 11.2 offered) I think 11.1.15 breaks it badly. Albeit improperly worded and not well defined in print on CCO, please reference cisco BUGid CSCdj40503 prior to trusting log-input for any valid info. Best regards, David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation dave(a)fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) http://www.fast.net FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Thornton [SMTP:prt@linx.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 9:47 AM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Cc: eof(a)ripe.net; se-gix(a)sunet.se; mae-east-tech(a)uu.net; > membership(a)linx.net; ops(a)linx.net > Subject: Advisory - tunneling of IP at exchange points. > > -- PLEASE NOTE: If you are replying to this, consider pruning the list > -- of cc's rather than crossposting replies wildly! > Thanks. > [snip] > The LINX and several of its members have recently had to take action > against an ISP that was using GRE tunneling between exchange points > to appropriate the capacity of other ISPs. > > Keith Mitchell > > Chairman > London InterNet Exchange keith(a)linx.org > Geneva House, 3 Park Road > Peterborough PE1 2UX > United Kingdom > Phone: +44 1733 705000 (fax 353929) > > > Paul > > -- > Paul Thornton, Network Engineer, London Internet Exchange Ltd. > Tel: 07000 783797 Mobile: +44 467 372205

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