January 1997 - Test - lists.nanog.org

URGENT: Operational Integrity Problem with IQ-INTERNET.COM
by Barry Shein 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

Reference: Sprint Customer Larry Host Domain: IQ-INTERNET.COM Problem Summary: Out of control mail loop 1. For the past 48 or so hours all e-mail from the domain IQ-INTERNET.COM has been blocked from our domain, STD.COM. All such email is refused with an immediate error message by our (std.com) server. 2. The account lhost(a)iq-internet.com, owner or adminstrator of this iq-internet.com domain, has been informed of this many times in this period. Messages have been left on their answering machine. Sprint personnel attempted to relay this message to him though I do not know if they were successful. Sprint security personnel have publically and privately (to me) acknowledged the problem. 3. Electronic mail continues to be sent (as of 17:17 EST) from iq-internet.com to world.std.com at a rate of several messages per minute, each one refused. THIS IS NOT A POLICY PROBLEM -- THIS IS A TECHNICAL PROBLEM. There is no reason for a host to send thousands of email msgs each being refused long after being informed of this state of affairs except: a) maliciousness b) severe technical failure or error, or gross operating negligence. I informed Sprint of this several hours ago, I reported it as a *TECHNICAL* problem although apparently Sprint network personnel continue to infer that they can read the system owner's mind and intuit that he is doing this for relatively innocent or purposeful reasons such that Sprint can not get involved. I assert this judgement by Sprint network personnel is a serious error and Sprint is ignoring a severe technical problem to the active detriment of the world-wide internetwork. There is a knowing dereliction of TECHNICAL AND OPERATIONAL responsibilities occurring here, and this abrogation of administrative responsibility is causing my business palpable damage, with full knowledge of authorized Sprint network operational and security personnel and more than sufficient time for them to have responded. xc: Sprint Legal Dept, Software Tool & Die Counsel -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs(a)world.std.com | http://www.std.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989

9 16

RE: tcg and cerf.net?
by Vadim Antonov 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

MFS and UUNET were in cooperation long before the merger. It came as no surprise. --vadim

1 0

NAIPR List
by Rodney Joffe 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

Anybody got any idea what happened to the NAIPR mailing list? Seems to have died at 11:30est after Kim's email......

1 0

RE: tcg and cerf.net?
by Danny Stroud 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

MFS bought UUNET. Was that any different a match? ---------- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu on behalf of Brett D. Watson Sent: Friday, January 03, 1997 11:08 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: tcg and cerf.net? i've heard something in the press about tcg buying cerfnet... anyone heard the same or can verify that? just curious. it seems like an odd match. -brett

1 0

RE: tcg and cerf.net?
by Danny Stroud 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

MFS bought UUNET. Was that any different a match? ---------- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu on behalf of Brett D. Watson Sent: Friday, January 03, 1997 11:08 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: tcg and cerf.net? i've heard something in the press about tcg buying cerfnet... anyone heard the same or can verify that? just curious. it seems like an odd match. -brett

1 0

Anybody from PSI?!?!?!
by dvv＠sprint.net 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

Hey, anybody from PSI here? c.root-servers.net is out of its mind, so approx 1/9 of _all_ valid DNS requests on the Internet end up with NXDOMAIN!!! Dima P.S. Yes, I did send a message to psinet-domain-admin(a)PSI.COM a couple of hours ago.

6 8

Re: Non-profit IP Registry
by Joe Pace 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

> > As a customer I have no problem paying for /16s so long as you'll give > me as many as I wish to buy. > -- > Eliot Lear > [lear(a)sgi.com] As a customer I feel the same. But this is precisely why addresses should never be sold. How do you expect some mom & pop business or individual to compete with billion dollar companies that don't blink at a $50K service charge. Joe Pace pace(a)honda.com

2 1

Non-profit IP Registry
by Kim Hubbard 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

Hello, Recently, there has been discussion concerning the need to keep IP issues separate from domain issues. The stability of the Internet in part relies on the careful management of the Internet Protocol addresses. The point has also been made that the management of the IP space should be put in the hands of those that depend on it - the users. Whether those users are ISPs, corporate entities, universities, etc., they should all play a role. To this end, Network Solutions, Inc. plans to create and initially fund a non-profit 501(c)6 organization to be known as The American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) to manage the IP address space for the territories it currently administers, similar to the APNIC and RIPE regional IP registries. This organization will be a non-profit spin-off of the current InterNIC IP group. Network Solutions, Inc. will initially fund ARIN until fees are imposed and will offer continued financing until such time as it is a stable, self-sufficient entity capable of funding itself through its membership dues, registration and maintenance fees. Details on the proposed organizational structure and 1997 funding model are located at http://rs.internic.net/arin. Questions regarding the proposal will be answered on the ARIN mailing list. To subscribe, send mail to: listserv(a)internic.net with "subscribe naipr" in the body along with your first and last name. Regards, Kim Hubbard InterNIC Registry

7 7

Re: Non-profit IP Registry
by Todd R. Stroup 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Arun Welch wrote: > > Since the registry doesn't control routing there's no way for them to > provide such a guarantee... > Being the facetious, jocular individual that I am, you don't think I understand this?? Since this was an attachment to the clause about getting whatever size block you wanted and getting more blocks without question.. why not dream a little bit. Anything is possible. > ...arun > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Arun Welch 5000 Arlington Centre Blvd > Lead Engineer, Internet R&D Columbus, OH 43220 > CompuServe awelch(a)compuserve.net > T..S

1 0

NANOG Meeting
by Pam Ciesla 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

Registration for the NANOG Meeting will be accepted until Friday, January 31. Full refunds will be given to anyone cancelling by January 31. After January 31, there will be a $20.00 fee. A list of attendees will be posted to the web page next week. Any questions please let me know. Thanks Pam Ciesla

1 0