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MAE-LA?
by bmanning＠ISI.EDU 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

Hi, MFS is willing to entertain the creation of a MAE in the LA area. Please send all requests to John Hardie at: john.hardy(a)mfsdatanet.com If there is enough interest, this ought to be up in a few weeks. If not... :) -- --bill

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Re: number of unaggregated class C's in swamp?
by William Allen Simpson 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

> From: Brian Renaud <renaud(a)merit.edu> > Here is the breakdown of 198 in the radb, showing the number of > route objects registered in 198 for /14 through /24. > > prefix length > prefix 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 > ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- > 198.* 4 5 39 5 19 30 41 67 98 137 5314 > This is interesting, showing how bad assignment has been even _after_ CIDR. 5K sites migrating providers in 2 years. However, I was looking for the older and hoarier problem of 192 and 193. That's where the mostest bang for the buck will occur if we can move long prefix folks into their respective RA blocks. That's also where we will learn about the problems with renumbering relatively older routers and hosts. And that's where folks _deserve_ a break, since they didn't have CIDR allocation in the first place, due to _our_ lack of foresight. So, I'll come by Merit, and see if we can pick a few 192/24s in your AS, and figure out the overall scope of effort that is needed to renumber 192 and 193. Thanks. Merit will be a good starting point, since they already made their sites renumber out of net 35 about 6 years ago! There will be experience which can be built upon. Bill.Simpson(a)um.cc.umich.edu Key fingerprint = 2E 07 23 03 C5 62 70 D3 59 B1 4F 5E 1D C2 C1 A2

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Class "C" Filtering
by prieur3＠infolink.com 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

Could someone be kind enough to explain SprintLink's reason for starting to filter certain class C IPs ? Opinions and commentary on this decision are also apreciated. I know I am probably coming in late on this, but this issue directly effects me as I am a SprintLink customer. Thanks, Prieur J. Leary, III Infolink Information Services, Inc.

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Re: MAE-LA?
by feldman＠MFSDatanet.COM 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

Correction: John's email is "hardie.john(a)mfsdatanet.com". Steve > From list-admin(a)merit.edu Fri Sep 29 11:17:56 1995 > From: bmanning(a)ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) > Subject: MAE-LA? > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 10:30:49 -0700 (PDT) > Cc: inet-access(a)earth.com, john.hardy(a)MFSDatanet.COM > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset=US-ASCII> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Hi, > MFS is willing to entertain the creation of a MAE in the > LA area. Please send all requests to John Hardie at: > > john.hardy(a)mfsdatanet.com > > If there is enough interest, this ought to be up in a few weeks. > If not... :) > > -- > --bill >

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Re: Forwarded mail..
by sgoldste＠nsf.gov 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

At 12:11 PM 9/29/95, santa(a)north.pole wrote: >i dunno, i saw this and was sondering if it sounded paranoid or what.. >merry xmas.. Ho ho ho, stuff it up the chimney, Santa! NSF made the award to NSI for Internet Registration Services lonnnng before SAIC bought them out. And, it is the only award we have for registration services. But now, at least, the ex-spooks will have goodies like diarrhea.com to amuse themselves with. Could you have done a more poeticly just job than that, Santa? --SG > >-------------------- Forwarded Mail -------------------- >[headers deleted..] > > Ex-spooks take over Internet domain name registration > >The press recently reported that the National Science Foundation has turned >over Internet Domain Name registration to Network Solutions, Inc. (NSI) of >Herndon, VA. The press failed to note some interesting connections. ... >

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number of unaggregated class C's in swamp?
by William Allen Simpson 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

How would one go about determining how many /24 /23 ... /19 unaggregated advertisements are in the swamp. I assume it would have to be examined by AS, and look for multiple paths to find multi-homed, but it should be doable with the current database, shouldn't it? Has someone already done this? I asked Merit yesterday, and they don't seem to have the tools. Bill.Simpson(a)um.cc.umich.edu Key fingerprint = 2E 07 23 03 C5 62 70 D3 59 B1 4F 5E 1D C2 C1 A2

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Forwarded mail..
by santa＠north.pole 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

i dunno, i saw this and was sondering if it sounded paranoid or what.. merry xmas.. -------------------- Forwarded Mail -------------------- [headers deleted..] Ex-spooks take over Internet domain name registration The press recently reported that the National Science Foundation has turned over Internet Domain Name registration to Network Solutions, Inc. (NSI) of Herndon, VA. The press failed to note some interesting connections. Tomorrow morning (Sept. 26), Web Review, a biweekly online magazine (see Special Report at http://gnn.com/wr/) will reveal that NSI was purchased in May by Scientific Applications International Corporation (SAIC) of San Diego. SAIC is a $2 billion company indicted by the Justice Department on ten felony counts for fraud in managing a Superfund toxic cleanup site (SAIC pleaded guilty) and sued by the Justice Department for civil fraud on an F-15 fighter contract. SAIC's board members include Admiral Bobby Inman, former NSA head and deputy director of the CIA; Melvin Laird, Nixon's defense secretary; and retired General Max Thurman, commander of the Panama Invasion. Recently departed board members include Robert Gates, former CIA director; William Perry, current Secretary of Defense; and John Deutch, the current CIA director. Current SAIC government contracts include re-engineering information systems at the Pentagon, automation of the FBI's computerized fingerprint identification system, and building a national criminal history information system. "At the very time the Internet community is struggling with the issues of encryption and privacy, I'm more than a little uneasy to find this bunch of ex-spooks sitting at the very entry point of the Net," says Jim Warren (a leading activist in making government records accessible) in the article, which was written by investigative journalist Stephen Pizzo, Web Review Senior Editor and co-author of the book Inside Job, an expose on the savings & loan looting.

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Re: number of unaggregated class C's in swamp?
by Barney Wolff 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 15:16:20 GMT > From: "William Allen Simpson" <bsimpson(a)morningstar.com> > > > From: Brian Renaud <renaud(a)merit.edu> > > Here is the breakdown of 198 in the radb, showing the number of > > route objects registered in 198 for /14 through /24. > > > > prefix length > > prefix 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 > > ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- > > 198.* 4 5 39 5 19 30 41 67 98 137 5314 > > > This is interesting, showing how bad assignment has been even > _after_ CIDR. 5K sites migrating providers in 2 years. I believe the NIC was assigning out of 198 before CIDR went into effect. I got a single C directly from them in late 1993, as I recall. Barney Wolff <barney(a)databus.com>

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Re: number of unaggregated class C's in swamp?
by rrv＠uiuc.edu 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

How did you account for longer prefixes that are covered by shorter ones? Did you limit your study to the RADB, or did you use the whole IRR? At 9:22 AM 9/29/95, Brian Renaud wrote: >Here is the breakdown of 198 in the radb, showing the number of >route objects registered in 198 for /14 through /24. > > prefix length >prefix 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 >------ ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- > 198.* 4 5 39 5 19 30 41 67 98 137 5314 > >-Brian > >> How would one go about determining how many /24 /23 ... /19 unaggregated >> advertisements are in the swamp. I assume it would have to be examined >> by AS, and look for multiple paths to find multi-homed, but it should be >> doable with the current database, shouldn't it? >> >> Has someone already done this? I asked Merit yesterday, and they don't >> seem to have the tools. >> >> Bill.Simpson(a)um.cc.umich.edu >> Key fingerprint = 2E 07 23 03 C5 62 70 D3 59 B1 4F 5E 1D C2 C1 A2 >>

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Notes from last NANOG on line
by sob＠academ.com 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

All my notes (with some help from Kent England and Randy Bush) are now on line. The slides from the talks are not up yet. I will get them in as I can. I still need the mail that made up the Sprint NAP report. I don't have that at all. The URL is http://www.academ.com/nanog/sept1995 Enjoy. -- Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob(a)academ.com Olan | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: amdahl!academ!sob Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.

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