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RE: Network Speed Testing and Monitoring Platform
by Luke Guillory 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Here is what you get. resultDate ipAddress country region city latitude longitude serverId serverName userAgent connectionType ispName ispNameRaw download (Kbps) upload (Kbps) ping (ms) jitter testId From: Mike Hammett [mailto:nanog@ics-il.net] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 11:25 AM To: Luke Guillory Cc: NANOG; Aaron Gould; Colton Conor Subject: Re: Network Speed Testing and Monitoring Platform I haven't seen the level of reporting on the paid service because I don't have it, but I get reporting on a free, public server. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Luke Guillory" <lguillory(a)reservetele.com<mailto:lguillory@reservetele.com>> To: "Aaron Gould" <aaron1(a)gvtc.com<mailto:aaron1@gvtc.com>>, "Colton Conor" <colton.conor(a)gmail.com<mailto:colton.conor@gmail.com>> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog(a)nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 11:22:21 AM Subject: RE: Network Speed Testing and Monitoring Platform The paid version gives you access to all the reporting from the test ran against your server. Luke Ns From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Gould Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 11:18 AM To: 'Colton Conor' Cc: 'NANOG' Subject: RE: Network Speed Testing and Monitoring Platform I think the motivation for the paid/onsite version of ookla was so that we could say how good our customers speed is, without going through the internet. We can’t control utilization on the Internet, but we can internally. -Aaron From: Colton Conor [mailto:colton.conor@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:37 AM To: Aaron Gould Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Network Speed Testing and Monitoring Platform Aaron, How does the https://account.speedtestcustom.com/login differ from hosting a speedtest.net<http://speedtest.net> server as an ISP, and letting anyone test through it? Seems the speedtest custom is a paid option, but hosting a speedtest.net<http://speedtest.net> server is free if you allow it to the public domain. Sure it uses up bandwidth (which I am sure you have a ton of), so I don't see the point of having a custom one? On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:27 AM Aaron Gould <aaron1(a)gvtc.com<mailto:aaron1@gvtc.com>> wrote: https://github.com/adolfintel/speedtest - one drawback we’ve seen is upload test has issues on some iphones (maybe other mobile devices) in safari, but I think chrome might work, unsure https://account.speedtestcustom.com/login - ookla customer speedtest – we have this running *internally* in our network on VM and also bare-metal, this is where our customers test locally Iperf - us engineers used it wifiperf – us engineers used it -Aaron

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RE: AT&T starting to charge for RFOs on ASE tail circuits?
by Tony Patti 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Hi Victor, I was curious about this, so I did a Google search, and found this AT&T RFO PDF: http://attnocpr.com/custportal/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ATT-PR-NOC-RFO.pdf While it does not specifically talk to your cost question, it does define a simple procedure to request RFO via email, and one would presume there is no cost, since none specified. Tony Patti [SW_logo_HighRes]<http://www.swalter.com/> CIO t: (215) 867-8401 f: (215) 268-7184 e: tony(a)swalter.com<mailto:tony@swalter.com> w: www.swalter.com<http://www.swalter.com/> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org<mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org>> On Behalf Of Victor Breen Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 2:35 PM To: nanog(a)nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Subject: AT&T starting to charge for RFOs on ASE tail circuits? Hey All, I just caught wind from multiple support reps of ours that AT&T is now demanding payment to get an RFO. As in, our folks are calling up AT&T to see why a particular tail circuit was down for whatever period of time and has since come back up with no clear utility power issue or backhoe fade to explain it. The response they get is that an RFO is billable and they have been asked to accept the charge to proceed (which they have rightly rejected thus far). This is the first time I've heard of this happening with any of our last-mile transport providers. I'm very curious, has anyone else experienced this lately with AT&T or any other carriers? -- Victor Breen | victor(a)impulse.net<mailto:victor@impulse.net> Sr. Engineer | Impulse Advanced Communications www.impulse.net<http://www.impulse.net>

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contact from AS3
by Ricardo Patara 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Hello, I need to contact someone form AS3. If in the list, could you please contact me privately. It seems this ASN is announcing IP blocks from other organization. Thanks Ricardo Patara

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AT&T starting to charge for RFOs on ASE tail circuits?
by Victor Breen 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Hey All, I just caught wind from multiple support reps of ours that AT&T is now demanding payment to get an RFO. As in, our folks are calling up AT&T to see why a particular tail circuit was down for whatever period of time and has since come back up with no clear utility power issue or backhoe fade to explain it. The response they get is that an RFO is billable and they have been asked to accept the charge to proceed (which they have rightly rejected thus far). This is the first time I've heard of this happening with any of our last-mile transport providers. I'm very curious, has anyone else experienced this lately with AT&T or any other carriers? -- Victor Breen | victor(a)impulse.net Sr. Engineer | Impulse Advanced Communications www.impulse.net

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colocation in Kansas City
by Tom Ammon 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Does anybody here do business with Tierpoint in Kansas City? Do you recommend them? Tom -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Ammon M: (801) 784-2628 thomasammon(a)gmail.com -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Anyone using AT&T's ECOMP/ONAP?
by adamv0025＠netconsultings.com 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Hi gents, I'm looking for physical network services orchestration framework for network service providers that could later be used/extended to orchestrate other areas of the business (virtualized services in DC, etc..). So far it appears to me that there's no such ready-made commercial product on the market that would contain all the building blocks I'd be interested in (well especially the easy to use service designer tool). ECOMP and now OANP seem to have it all and much more I'm just curious if anyone is using it in anger (or parts of it for that matter) for orchestration/design/automation of services on physical network. I'd like to hear some stories from trenches with regards to the implementation, but I'd be also interested in your thoughts in case you just assessed the tool for implementation (why did liked not liked about it). Thank you adam netconsultings.com ::carrier-class solutions for the telecommunications industry::

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RE: Your opinion on network analysis in the presence of uncertain events
by adamv0025＠netconsultings.com 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

> From: Mel Beckman <mel(a)beckman.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:21 PM > > MTBF can’t be used alone to predict failure probability, because product > mortality follows the infamous “bathtub curve”. Products are as likely to fail > early in their lives as later in their lives. MTBF as a scalar value is just an > average. > Yes very good point -however that's where the historical data should come to rescue to help bend the MTBF line into this expected "bathtub curve". adam

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Re: ASNs decimation in ZW this morning
by Colin Johnston 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

> On 15 Jan 2019, at 17:03, C. A. Fillekes <cfillekes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Whole countries falling off the net? BUT TEH TOP POSTINGS!!! > > I'm a little frustrated with the very existence of that thread. > > Trying to constructively change the topic to something more interesting lol. > > I guess the concerning thing to me is that the whole point of packet switched networks was to provide resilience in the face of e.g. civil disorder. > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:50 AM Colin Johnston <colinj(a)gt86car.org.uk <mailto:colinj@gt86car.org.uk>> wrote: > sorry top posting, > yup whatsup doesnt work in harare. > phone circuits land ok though and checked ok > > col > > Sent from my iPod > > On 15 Jan 2019, at 15:42, C. A. Fillekes <cfillekes(a)gmail.com <mailto:cfillekes@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:34 AM C. A. Fillekes <cfillekes(a)gmail.com <mailto:cfillekes@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> So @meileaben on twitter this morning notes: >> >> Many #Zimbabwe <https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zimbabwe?src=hash> Internet routes withdrawn around 9:30 UTC amidst civil unrest in the country. near-realtime on #RIPEstat <https://twitter.com/hashtag/RIPEstat?src=hash> here: https://stat.ripe.net/ZW <https://t.co/sgJ4O3310z> #OpenNetworkIntelligence <https://twitter.com/hashtag/OpenNetworkIntelligence?src=hash> #ZimbabweShutdown <https://twitter.com/hashtag/ZimbabweShutdown?src=hash> >> >> https://twitter.com/meileaben/status/1085118237157851136 <https://twitter.com/meileaben/status/1085118237157851136> >> >> wondering if anyone here has additional info on that. Looing at stat.ripe.net/ZW <http://stat.ripe.net/ZW> now it looks as though one (out of an original 18, current 9) ASN has recovered, but kind of curious as to what exactly happened there. >> >> So Bloomberg notes that a number of ISPs were shut down to quell online protest >> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-15/by-killing-the-internet-… <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-15/by-killing-the-internet-…> but are there no work-arounds available, if implemented? zimbabwe situation link below re telecom problems https://www.zimbabwesituation.com/news/zimbabwe-telecoms-jammed-after-viole… <https://www.zimbabwesituation.com/news/zimbabwe-telecoms-jammed-after-viole…> I was back in Zim myself last month as well to see family children, internet was working well then inc whats up, mobile and adsl. I wonder how they block social media sites/whats up, is it null routing on peering cores or filtering since did not see filtering in place from ZIM<>UK last month... Colin

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No IPv6 by design to increase reliability...
by John Von Essen 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

I was having a debate with someone on this. Take a critical web site, say one where you want 100% global uptime, no potential issues with end users having connectivity or routing issues getting to your IP. Would it be advantageous to purposely not support a AAAA record in DNS and disable IPv6, only exist on IPv4? My argument against this was "Broken IPv6 Connectivity" doesn't really occur anymore, also, almost all browsers and OS IP stacks implement Happy Eyeballs algorithm where both v4 and v6 are attempted, so if v6 dies it will try v4. I would also argue that lack of IPv6 technically makes the site unreachable from native IPv6 clients, and in the event of an IPv4 outage, connectivity might still remain on IPv6 if the site had an IPv6 address (I've experienced scenarios with a bad IPv4 BGP session, but the IPv6 session remained up and transiting traffic...) Thoughts? -John

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Announcing Peering-LAN prefixes to customers
by Dominic Schallert 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

Hi all, this might be a stupid question but today I was discussing with a colleague if Peering-LAN prefixes should be re-distributed/announced to direct customers/peers. My standpoint is that in any case, Peering-LAN prefixes should be filtered and not announced to peers/customers because a Peering-LAN represents some sort of DMZ and there is simply no need for them to be reachable by third-parties not being physically connected to an IXP themselves. Also from a security point of view, a lot of new issues might occur in this situation. I’ve been seeing a few transit providers lately announcing (even reachable) Peering-LAN prefixes (for example DE-CIX Peering LAN) to their customers. I’m wondering if there is any document or RFC particularly describing this matter? Thanks Dominic

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