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Re: Small / Rural ISP owners
by Aaron Atac 22 Nov '24

22 Nov '24

Tom hit the nail on the head of my points, a lot of multiplayer video games are hosted on a server in a hyper scaler, AWS for example, or players can make their own PCs/Consoles the game server as well. Lobbies are formed, goal is get 20 people into the lobby with minimal rtt to game server and minimal standard deviation in each player’s rtt to game server compared to the rest of the lobby to have as equal of an experience as possible amongst all players. However, there can be players in rural areas or beyond networks with not as fast of an RTT to these hyper scalers like AWS where they are the odd player out. What this results in is a player waiting much longer to find a lobby of players with comparable rtt to them. Even worse, they will probably get put in a lobby where their standard deviation in rtt is still higher than everyone else. Imagine a FPS (first person shooter). Player 1 and Player 2 are facing each other ready to fire. Player 1 has 10ms rtt to game server. Player 2 has 20ms rtt to game server. In real time, player 2 hits the trigger first, but due to higher latency, player 1 in game time kills player 2 first. These games are by the millisecond game play in terms of who is victorious and have large market share. -Aaron Nov 22, 2024 at 9:56 AM by nanog(a)nanog.org: > I can tell you this was the problem Subspace was trying to resolve, but then went out of business. > > Specifically, Subspace wasn’t focused on caching video game updates and distributing those better, but rather building a network for clients to access game servers with lower rtt for a more optimal experience in multiplayer video games. > > WTFast was the next best thing last I heard. > -Aaron > > Nov 22, 2024 at 7:37 AM by mehmet(a)akcin.net: > >> Are there a lot of gamers in rural areas? Do the rural ISPs have challenges with reaching gaming servers. I do not know if gaming or caching or both a challenge for rural isps due to being distant from population centers and possibly caches >> >> Mehmet >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 08:32 Josh Luthman <> josh(a)imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: >> >>> Might want to say why. >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 6:50 AM Mehmet <>> mehmet(a)akcin.net>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hello - i am looking for small ISP owners, Rural ISPs in FL, TX, NY, VA, CA (but anywhere in the world is fine). >>>> >>>> If anyone lurking on the list please contact me offlist >>>> >>>> Mehmet >>>> +1-424-298-1903 >>>>

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Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report
by Routing Table Analysis Role Account 22 Nov '24

22 Nov '24

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Global IPv4 Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG UKNOF, TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net. For historical data, please see https://thyme.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfsinoz(a)gmail.com>. IPv4 Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 23 Nov, 2024 IPv4 BGP Table (Global) as seen at Japan. Report Website: https://thyme.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: https://thyme.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 968709 Prefixes after maximum aggregation (per Origin AS): 368403 Deaggregation factor: 2.63 Unique aggregates announced (without unneeded subnets): 470919 Number of IPv4 prefixes with a valid ROA: 511627 Number of IPv4 prefixes with an invalid ROA: 1264 Number of IPv4 prefixes with no ROA: 455818 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 76500 Prefixes per ASN: 12.66 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 65528 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 26878 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 10972 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 533 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 5.3 Max AS path length visible: 56 Max AS path prepend of ASN (265020) 50 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 1061 Number of instances of unregistered ASNs: 1075 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 45864 Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 37496 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 195241 Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 47 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 1 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 489 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 3026836480 Equivalent to 180 /8s, 105 /16s and 220 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 81.8 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 81.8 Percentage of available address space allocated: 100.0 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 99.6 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 316574 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 258382 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 75817 APNIC Deaggregation factor: 3.41 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 250525 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 101803 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 14464 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 17.32 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 4419 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1902 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 5.5 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 35 Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 9909 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 756579712 Equivalent to 45 /8s, 24 /16s and 125 /24s APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319, 58368-59391, 63488-64098, 64297-64395, 131072-153913 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 36/8, 39/8, 42/8, 43/8, 49/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 101/8, 103/8, 106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8, 163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 283353 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 126536 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.24 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 285871 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 136036 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 19195 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 14.89 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 6975 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2007 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 4.6 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 35 Number of ARIN region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 5069 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 1266350080 Equivalent to 75 /8s, 122 /16s and 248 /24s ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 (pre-ERX allocations) 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647, 29696-30719, 31744-33791 35840-36863, 39936-40959, 46080-47103 53248-55295, 62464-63487, 64198-64296, 393216-402332 ARIN Address Blocks 3/8, 4/8, 6/8, 7/8, 8/8, 9/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8, 15/8, 16/8, 17/8, 18/8, 19/8, 20/8, 21/8, 22/8, 23/8, 24/8, 26/8, 28/8, 29/8, 30/8, 32/8, 33/8, 34/8, 35/8, 38/8, 40/8, 44/8, 45/8, 47/8, 48/8, 50/8, 52/8, 54/8, 55/8, 56/8, 63/8, 64/8, 65/8, 66/8, 67/8, 68/8, 69/8, 70/8, 71/8, 72/8, 73/8, 74/8, 75/8, 76/8, 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8, 100/8, 104/8, 107/8, 108/8, 128/8, 129/8, 130/8, 131/8, 132/8, 134/8, 135/8, 136/8, 137/8, 138/8, 139/8, 140/8, 142/8, 143/8, 144/8, 146/8, 147/8, 148/8, 149/8, 152/8, 155/8, 156/8, 157/8, 158/8, 159/8, 160/8, 161/8, 162/8, 164/8, 165/8, 166/8, 167/8, 168/8, 169/8, 170/8, 172/8, 173/8, 174/8, 184/8, 192/8, 198/8, 199/8, 204/8, 205/8, 206/8, 207/8, 208/8, 209/8, 214/8, 215/8, 216/8, RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 269200 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 130149 RIPE Deaggregation factor: 2.07 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 266160 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 169352 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 28829 RIPE Prefixes per ASN: 9.23 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 12133 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 3981 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.3 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 43 Number of RIPE region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 12150 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 722165376 Equivalent to 43 /8s, 11 /16s and 94 /24s RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 (pre-ERX allocations) 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-35839, 38912-39935 40960-45055, 47104-52223, 56320-58367 59392-61439, 61952-62463, 64396-64495 196608-216475 RIPE Address Blocks 2/8, 5/8, 25/8, 31/8, 37/8, 46/8, 51/8, 53/8, 57/8, 62/8, 77/8, 78/8, 79/8, 80/8, 81/8, 82/8, 83/8, 84/8, 85/8, 86/8, 87/8, 88/8, 89/8, 90/8, 91/8, 92/8, 93/8, 94/8, 95/8, 109/8, 141/8, 145/8, 151/8, 176/8, 178/8, 185/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/8, 195/8, 212/8, 213/8, 217/8, LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 122892 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 28703 LACNIC Deaggregation factor: 4.28 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 120460 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 48686 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 11180 LACNIC Prefixes per ASN: 10.77 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 2661 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2495 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 5.9 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 56 Number of LACNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 9098 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 177427968 Equivalent to 10 /8s, 147 /16s and 86 /24s LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671, 52224-53247, 61440-61951, 64099-64197, 262144-274844 + ERX transfers LACNIC Address Blocks 177/8, 179/8, 181/8, 186/8, 187/8, 189/8, 190/8, 191/8, 200/8, 201/8, AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 33821 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 6538 AfriNIC Deaggregation factor: 5.17 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 45204 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 14631 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1910 AfriNIC Prefixes per ASN: 23.67 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 690 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 376 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 5.9 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 39 Number of AfriNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 1270 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 104051712 Equivalent to 6 /8s, 51 /16s and 180 /24s AfriNIC AS Blocks 36864-37887, 327680-329727 & ERX transfers AfriNIC Address Blocks 41/8, 102/8, 105/8, 154/8, 196/8, 197/8, APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 9808 10050 8753 89 CHINAMOBILE-CN China Mobile Communication 7545 6126 842 662 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited, AU 4538 4889 4192 73 ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Resear 18403 4399 347 23 FPT-AS-AP FPT Telecom Company, VN 9498 3910 515 284 BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd., IN 7552 3905 1331 25 VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Group, VN 7713 3674 1036 72 TELKOMNET-AS-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indones 45899 3258 1869 100 VNPT-AS-VN VNPT Corp, VN 24560 2794 833 542 AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., 4766 2288 11520 588 KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom, KR Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-APNIC ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 16509 11039 11956 3964 AMAZON-02, US 11492 4677 311 552 CABLEONE, US 174 4530 8767 872 COGENT-174, US 7155 4168 287 85 VIASAT-SP-BACKBONE, US 6327 3605 1320 79 SHAW, CA 22773 3405 3037 188 ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC, US 749 3262 54895 2509 DNIC-AS-00749, US 7018 3176 23561 2016 ATT-INTERNET4, US 396982 2882 3655 431 GOOGLE-CLOUD-PLATFORM, US 16625 2861 1248 2122 AKAMAI-AS, US Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-ARIN RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 12479 7651 1709 143 UNI2-AS, ES 39891 4749 290 61 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 20940 3920 3395 130 AKAMAI-ASN1, NL 9009 3674 316 1863 M247, RO 12389 2949 2294 880 ROSTELECOM-AS, RU 34984 2345 360 574 TELLCOM-AS, TR 212238 1830 132 1352 CDNEXT, GB 13188 1607 100 26 TRIOLAN, UA 8452 1605 1852 14 TE-AS TE-AS, EG 62240 1469 97 729 CLOUVIDER Clouvider - Global ASN, GB Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-RIPE LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8151 11460 3221 608 UNINET, MX 10620 3542 494 942 Telmex Colombia S.A., CO 13999 2533 534 373 Mega Cable, S.A. de C.V., MX 11830 1996 369 64 Instituto Costarricense de Electricidad y 3816 1327 783 201 COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES S.A. ESP BIC, 28573 1322 2310 261 Claro NXT Telecomunicacoes Ltda, BR 6503 1155 374 163 Axtel, S.A.B. de C.V., MX 11664 1145 278 33 Techtel LMDS Comunicaciones Interactivas 6147 1118 371 22 Telefonica del Peru S.A.A., PE 22884 1068 98 372 TOTAL PLAY TELECOMUNICACIONES SA DE CV, M Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-LACNIC AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 24835 1658 593 29 RAYA-AS, EG 24863 1646 389 16 LINKdotNET-AS, EG 36992 1421 1518 288 ETISALAT-MISR, EG 29571 1406 89 61 ORANGE-COTE-IVOIRE, CI 36903 1249 554 96 MT-MPLS, MA 36935 1015 523 46 Vodafone-, EG 20011 915 162 254 INTERNET-SOLUTIONS, ZA 37069 902 1083 15 MOBINIL, EG 6713 556 1861 35 IAM-AS, MA 36914 551 82 3 KENET-AS, KE Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-AFRINIC Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8151 11460 3221 608 UNINET, MX 16509 11039 11956 3964 AMAZON-02, US 9808 10050 8753 89 CHINAMOBILE-CN China Mobile Communication 12479 7651 1709 143 UNI2-AS, ES 7545 6126 842 662 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited, AU 4538 4889 4192 73 ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Resear 39891 4749 290 61 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 11492 4677 311 552 CABLEONE, US 174 4530 8767 872 COGENT-174, US 18403 4399 347 23 FPT-AS-AP FPT Telecom Company, VN Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet Global Per AS Maximum Aggregation summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 9808 10050 9961 CHINAMOBILE-CN China Mobile Communications Grou 12479 7651 7508 UNI2-AS, ES 16509 11039 7075 AMAZON-02, US 7545 6126 5464 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited, AU 4538 4889 4816 ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Net 39891 4749 4688 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 18403 4399 4376 FPT-AS-AP FPT Telecom Company, VN 11492 4677 4125 CABLEONE, US 7155 4168 4083 VIASAT-SP-BACKBONE, US 7552 3905 3880 VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Group, VN Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-CIDRnet List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) ----------------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Net Originated Transit AS Transit AS Name 33123 UNALLOCATED 8.10.69.0/24 174 COGENT-174, US 12169 UNALLOCATED 8.15.207.0/24 32787 PROLEXIC-TECHNOLOGIES-D 40493 UNALLOCATED 8.17.26.0/24 3356 LEVEL3, US 46639 UNALLOCATED 8.17.66.0/24 701 UUNET, US 53775 UNALLOCATED 8.20.88.0/24 7029 WINDSTREAM, US 393266 UNALLOCATED 8.23.52.0/24 46887 CROWNCASTLE-AS46887, US 396894 UNALLOCATED 8.28.201.0/24 46887 CROWNCASTLE-AS46887, US 394936 UNALLOCATED 8.33.224.0/24 22442 HOU-PHONOSCOPE, US 54338 UNALLOCATED 8.33.241.0/24 3356 LEVEL3, US 46639 UNALLOCATED 8.38.73.0/24 3356 LEVEL3, US Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-badAS Prefixes from the Special Purpose Address Registry (Global) ----------------------------------------------------------- Prefix Origin AS Description 192.88.99.0/24 6939 HURRICANE, US Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-spar Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Unassigned Network ASN Information AS Name 14.192.20.0/22 Origin: 26658 HENGTONG-IDC-LLC, US 14.192.20.0/22 Transit: 6939 HURRICANE, US 23.139.32.0/24 Origin: 14727 RESERVED, ZZ 23.139.32.0/24 Transit: 6939 HURRICANE, US 23.140.216.0/24 Origin: 27176 DATAWAGON, US 23.140.216.0/24 Transit: 20278 NEXEON, US 23.141.0.0/24 Origin: 395350 RESERVED, ZZ 23.141.0.0/24 Transit: 11426 TWC-11426-CAROLINAS, US 23.152.48.0/24 Origin: 46167 RESERVED, ZZ 23.152.48.0/24 Transit: 7018 ATT-INTERNET4, US Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-add-IANA Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:16 /9:16 /10:36 /11:91 /12:295 /13:575 /14:1170 /15:2049 /16:13160 /17:8267 /18:13733 /19:24589 /20:45292 /21:52434 /22:112349 /23:100613 /24:593333 /25:691 /26:0 /27:0 /28:0 /29:0 /30:0 /31:0 /32:0 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 12479 6659 7651 UNI2-AS, ES 8151 5667 11460 UNINET, MX 11492 3555 4677 CABLEONE, US 39891 3440 4749 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 6327 3400 3605 SHAW, CA 7155 3112 4168 VIASAT-SP-BACKBONE, US 22773 2535 3405 ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC, US 16509 2268 11039 AMAZON-02, US 30036 2203 2543 MEDIACOM-ENTERPRISE-BUSINESS, US 10620 2172 3542 Telmex Colombia S.A., CO Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-sXXas-nos Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 1:2296 2:1551 3:524 4:8 5:4430 6:166 7:6 8:1496 9:1 11:172 12:1413 13:351 14:2500 15:336 16:269 17:360 18:903 20:442 21:4 22:188 23:7043 24:2649 25:2 27:2604 29:19 31:3030 32:40 34:70 35:173 36:2392 37:4480 38:8967 39:891 40:149 41:4160 42:2089 43:2494 44:340 45:17769 46:4792 47:299 49:2029 50:1844 51:581 52:1574 54:315 55:949 56:8 57:230 58:2267 59:1243 60:1150 61:2758 62:2822 63:1844 64:5399 65:2268 66:4640 67:3021 68:1312 69:3994 70:1116 71:592 72:2858 74:2788 75:1627 76:638 77:2541 78:1880 79:1641 80:2218 81:2039 82:1760 83:1404 84:1771 85:3136 86:963 87:2419 88:1258 89:4365 90:725 91:8254 92:2604 93:2833 94:3849 95:4221 96:1247 97:313 98:1068 99:734 100:71 101:1160 102:3429 103:32331 104:4435 105:730 106:984 107:2405 108:1187 109:4046 110:2237 111:3325 112:2042 113:1803 114:1942 115:2145 116:2009 117:2714 118:2818 119:1974 120:1865 121:1414 122:2718 123:2161 124:1622 125:2856 126:62 128:1448 129:940 130:1259 131:1881 132:817 133:448 134:1525 135:317 136:1263 137:1140 138:2845 139:1529 140:1494 141:1448 142:1833 143:1597 144:1028 145:406 146:2110 147:2057 148:2562 149:2832 150:1151 151:1467 152:2116 153:499 154:7318 155:1558 156:2809 157:1842 158:1222 159:2443 160:3317 161:1740 162:3570 163:1770 164:1932 165:2147 166:1337 167:1854 168:4116 169:799 170:4990 171:997 172:3946 173:3131 174:921 175:1251 176:3537 177:4800 178:3748 179:2255 180:2554 181:3923 182:3341 183:2040 184:2266 185:21280 186:5025 187:4211 188:4220 189:4067 190:9594 191:1513 192:11192 193:9263 194:7637 195:5391 196:3205 197:3491 198:6037 199:8229 200:8088 201:6313 202:10556 203:10456 204:4654 205:3689 206:4645 207:3608 208:4234 209:5133 210:4804 211:2625 212:4531 213:3698 214:1057 215:47 216:6603 217:3083 218:1357 219:556 220:2093 221:1051 222:839 223:2309 End of report

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Small / Rural ISP owners
by Mehmet 22 Nov '24

22 Nov '24

Hello - i am looking for small ISP owners, Rural ISPs in FL, TX, NY, VA, CA (but anywhere in the world is fine). If anyone lurking on the list please contact me offlist Mehmet +1-424-298-1903

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Discover Our Next Meeting Location + Top Talk from N92!
by Nanog News 21 Nov '24

21 Nov '24

*** Discover Our Next Meeting Location: Atlanta* ------------------------------------------------------------ *Beyond the Peach: Surprising Facts You Didn't Know * *Atlanta, we’re back!* Our next meeting is in Atlanta, GA—also known as the "Hollywood of the South." This dynamic city is quickly becoming a major tech hub, celebrated for its innovation and incredible talent. Find out more interesting facts below. *Do you have a favorite Atlanta memory or fun fact? We’d love to hear it! Email us at news(a)nanog.org <news(a)nanog.org>.* *READ MORE* <https://nanog.org/stories/articles/get-to-know-our-next-meeting-location-at…> ( https://nanog.org/stories/articles/get-to-know-our-next-meeting-location-at… ) *** Don't Miss Standard Registration Rates for NANOG 93* ------------------------------------------------------------ *Register Now for our Next Meeting!* Gather with us. Stay competitive. Bring your ideas to life + make meaningful connections! Standard rates will continue through 12 December. Register now for NANOG 93! *MORE INFO* <https://nanog.org/events/nanog-93/> ( https://nanog.org/events/nanog-93/) *** Talk of the Week — "Removing IPv4 Infrastructure Addressing from Meta’s Edge Network"* ------------------------------------------------------------ *Ft. Matt Kirkland—Meta Platforms* Meta runs hundreds of global Points of Presence (PoPs) with extensive IPv4 and IPv6 infrastructure links. This presentation highlights Kirkland's work at Meta to remove IPv4 from PoP infrastructure, implement RFC 5549/8950, and extend next-hop for advertising IPv4 prefixes to peers. *WATCH NOW* <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKYw7JlyAQQ&list=PLO8DR5ZGla8jZuNZqoXorIMAC…> ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKYw7JlyAQQ&list=PLO8DR5ZGla8jZuNZqoXorIMAC… ) *** Stay Connected* ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.facebook.com http://www.instagram.com/nanog_org/ http://www.linkedin.com/company/nanog/ https://www.twitter.com/nanog/ http://nanog.org

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FCC NPRM: Updating Security for Vital Submarine Cables
by Sean Donelan 21 Nov '24

21 Nov '24

On Thursday, the Federal Communications Commission will vote on a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on submarine cable security. Approximately 84 of the 600 global inter-country submarine cables are licensed by the FCC, and a few intra-territorial cables. https://www.fcc.gov/document/updating-security-vital-submarine-cables

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Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024
by Dilip Kounmany 20 Nov '24

20 Nov '24

Hello NANOG community, I’d like to share my thoughts on the ongoing discussion regarding the ICP-2 revision, particularly the importance of the “Portability of Rights to Number Resources.” ICP-2 is essential for guiding Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) in managing IP addresses globally. As we consider revisions, I believe that ensuring the portability of IP resources should be a hard requirement. This means networks should have the right to move their IP resources between RIRs without undue restrictions. Portability is crucial for maintaining network autonomy, allowing operators to control their resources independently of any single RIR. It also promotes competition among RIRs, incentivizing them to improve service quality and accountability. Additionally, if an RIR’s performance negatively impacts a network's operation, there should be a clear mechanism for portability, similar to DNS registries. This would serve as a necessary safety net for networks facing operational issues. As we move forward, let’s advocate for these changes in the ICP-2 policy to foster a more resilient and accountable Internet governance framework. I look forward to hearing your thoughts!

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IPTV and Different markets
by Justin Wilson (Lists) 20 Nov '24

20 Nov '24

Here is the Scenario. Several different IP blocks 2 different geodiverse exit points on the network (more but two for this scenario). This network has Google, Hulu and other Live tv providers complain about being in one market when it should be in another. The way this is being solved at the moment is a /24 for TV market A and a /24 for TV market B. This is a waste for the one market. Customers have IPV6 as well. IPV6 does not seem to be a factor in this scenario. Are there any other solutions to this? If I change GeoLocation on the blocks it ties it to that TV market so not geolocation issue per se. It’s a location issue. Justin Wilson j2sw(a)j2sw.com — https://j2sw.com (AS399332) https://blog.j2sw.com - Podcast and Blog

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Internal Server Error @ mailman.nanog.org
by nanog＠fleish.org 20 Nov '24

20 Nov '24

I am unable to login to the mailman web interface & manage my subscription options @ https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog. I get the below Internal Server Error 500 response: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator at webmaster@localhost to inform them of the time this error occurred, and the actions you performed just before this error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu) Server at mailman.nanog.org Port 443 If an admin could look into this I’d appreciate it. -T

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Technical contact for Verizon (not Fios) before we unplug a service router
by Bruce Wainer 20 Nov '24

20 Nov '24

Hi, My dayjob is preparing to decom our original datacenter, built in the 90's, and the building is being torn down. We have a Verizon Fujitsu Flashwave 4500 with working (green lights) OC12 connections to two local CO's. We don't currently have any Verizon data services, and thus no way to officially inform them of the imminent disconnection. Although this is an older platform and these are (for today) slower links, we want to provide time in case this is part of a ring with other customers on it (like we have with other providers). This is in southeastern Virginia. If anyone from Verizon is here or anyone has contact information to pass along, I'm happy to be contacted off-list. Otherwise, we plan to unplug it and see what happens (not during the holidays). Thank you, Bruce Wainer

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Anyone know Hispasec Sistemas ?
by John Levine 19 Nov '24

19 Nov '24

They are a security company in Spain who I gather have some relation to Virus Total. Unfortunately, someone there believes that abuse.net is the Network Police, and is sending it urgent messages to take down naughty domains. In reality, abuse.net is just me, and their spam is getting rather tedious. I have tried writing to addresses on their web site with no response. Any chance someone knows someone there who might be able to relay a clue? TIA. R's, John

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