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Extending network over a dry pair
by Nick Bogle 14 Dec '18

14 Dec '18

A quick question for you guys; If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for phones) to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you use? We currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but 1.5Mbps isn't cutting it anymore. Unfortunately it's a research site on a federally protected wildlife preserve so we can't run any new infrastructure (fiber etc) and it isn't in a geographical place where point to point wireless is practical. We were thinking there is some sort of network extender that uses some form of DSL for higher bandwidth capacity. Any suggestions?

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Levle3's IRR db
by John Von Essen 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

Whats the best way to get in contact with Level3 to make an IRR change... if your not a Level3 customer? I tried emailing rr(a)level3.net but that bounces back as an unmonitored mailbox. There are dup IRR entries in Level3's db for my prefixes (legacy from a carrier I used over 10 years ago). My prefixes are in Arin's IRR and I would like that to be the only source. -John

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PCH BGP Collector Data - Contact
by Lars Prehn 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

Hi everyone, I'm planning to download a significant amount of PCH's available MRT data. Is there anyone that could forward me (maybe off-list) contact information for one of the current maintainers? Thanks in advance! Best regards, Lars

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Unsolicited LinkedIn requests
by Alfie Pates 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

Hi folks, I'm not going to name-and-shame, but I just got a LinkedIn connection request completely out of the blue from somebody with the comment "Greetings from another NANOG user!" I didn't recognise the name, and a quick search of my email history suggests we haven't interacted before. Please don't do this: It's not very polite. ~A

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Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions
by Nick Bogle 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

Hello fellow NANOG members :) Let me start with a little bit of background, my day job is a Network Engineer for a local university where we have primarily a Cisco environment from phones to switching to routing, etc. Before my time, we hired a contractor to design a GPON LAN system for a new building as a cost saving measure (though I am not sure how successful that was). Either way, the contractor is about to hand the system off to us, and we have gone through the training and such, and I feel confident in my ability to manage the system, but we have a few questions that the manufacturer of our equipment and our contractor didn't really want to answer. We are currently using a Dasan Zhone MXK-F1419 with several different downstream ONT models (all Zhone). -We would like to consider use of 3rd party GPON B+ Optics on the linecards to add redundancy to the splitter (as the cost of 1st party are too high). Does anyone have experience with 3rd party vendors/compatibility/stability issues? We were told they theoretically should work and just throw a log event, but it hasn't been tested. If so, what vendors would you recommend? So far all we've really seen are Ubiquiti and Fiberstore optics. -As GPON is a standard itself, I'm aware interoperability between OLT and ONT vendors is heavily limited.. Does anyone have any experience using say, Zhone ONT's with a different model OLT, or Zhone ONT's with a different model OLT? I've heard word that Zhone ONT's may be able to work with Nokia OLT's but it's technically not supported. -We've already experienced some pretty big stability issues (have replaced 1 line card 5 times..), our contractor is saying it's just because we were a pretty early adopter of this line and that they've fixed it and fixed internal policies to add additional QA and testing before shipping to customers. Does anyone have any experience with working with Zhone and their overall stability of components? - Any other thoughts/gotchas/advice for deploying a GPON environment in a corporate LAN? (or about deploying a Zhone solution) It's pretty service provider oriented, and is incredible noticeable in the CLI. -Is anyone familiar with Zhone CLI? The apparent lack of any "show" configuration commands is infuriating. Feel free to contact me offlist if you have any pertinent info that you don't want on the list. Thanks, Nick Bogle nick(a)bogle.se

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Looking for Telecom Lawyer
by Travis Garrison 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

We are looking for a Telecom Lawyer to help us be a CLEC in the Arkansas, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa and Oklahoma areas. Also we are looking to setup agreements for peering, transport and resell for ATT and CenturyLink in the same areas and Missouri. We are already a CLEC in Missouri. Thank you Travis

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Looking for an compromise of an enterprise network from a mobile device
by Christopher J. Wolff 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

Hello NANOG, I'm working on a presentation and need your help. I'm looking for a case study where a compromised iOS, Android or other mobile device was utilized as a backdoor to compromise an enterprise network. Any help will be appreciated. Regards, Christopher

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A few GPON questions...
by Nick Bogle 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

Hello fellow NANOG members :) Let me start with a little bit of background, my day job is a Network Engineer for a local university where we have primarily a Cisco environment from phones to switching to routing, etc. Before my time, we hired a contractor to design a GPON LAN system for a new building as a cost saving measure (though I am not sure how successful that was). Either way, the contractor is about to hand the system off to us, and we have gone through the training and such, and I feel confident in my ability to manage the system, but we have a few questions that the manufacturer of our equipment and our contractor didn't really want to answer. We are currently using a Dasan Zhone MXK-F1419 with several different downstream ONT models (all Zhone). -We would like to consider use of 3rd party GPON B+ Optics on the linecards to add redundancy to the splitter (as the cost of 1st party are too high). Does anyone have experience with 3rd party vendors/compatibility/stability issues? We were told they theoretically should work and just throw a log event, but it hasn't been tested. If so, what vendors would you recommend? So far all we've really seen are Ubiquiti and Fiberstore optics. -As GPON is a standard itself, I'm aware interoperability between OLT and ONT vendors is heavily limited.. Does anyone have any experience using say, Zhone ONT's with a different model OLT, or Zhone ONT's with a different model OLT? I've heard word that Zhone ONT's may be able to work with Nokia OLT's but it's technically not supported. -We've already experienced some pretty big stability issues (have replaced 1 line card 5 times..), our contractor is saying it's just because we were a pretty early adopter of this line and that they've fixed it and fixed internal policies to add additional QA and testing before shipping to customers. Does anyone have any experience with working with Zhone and their overall stability of components? - Any other thoughts/gotchas/advice for deploying a GPON environment in a corporate LAN? (or about deploying a Zhone solution) It's pretty service provider oriented, and is incredible noticeable in the CLI. Feel free to contact me offlist if you have any pertinent info that you don't want on the list. Thanks, Nick Bogle nick(a)bogle.se

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IXPDB
by Bryce Wilson 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

Hello, I am one of the operators of EVIX and we recently made data available via IX-F Member Export JSON which is also sometimes known as IXPDB JSON. Someone, who I am unclear if it is IX-F, Euro-IX, someone else, or maybe all of them are the same people, has a list of IXPs, especially those with this JSON data. Accompanying that, are participants to these exchanges, all of the route servers or all the exchanges in one large list, and IXP switches, which is slightly odd. This resource is available at https://ixpdb.euro-ix.net/en/ixpdb/providers/. Now that we have the JSON data available we are wondering how to become part of the list. Does anyone have a contact for someone affiliated with this list? At this point the best we can do is email the contacts listed at the bottom of the github page for the schema (https://github.com/euro-ix/json-schemas) Thank you to anyone that can assist. Thanks ~ Bryce Wilson, AS202313, EVIX AS137933

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Steam and Fortnite network contacts
by Mehmet Akcin 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

hi there, i am looking for fortnite and steam network/performance team contacts to discuss a performance issue. thank you

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