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california quake
by Scott Granados 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

Apparently there was just a 6.4 quake in central california. We felt it here in San Jose but its probably to minor up here to cause any disruptions. However closer to the center there may be.

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A headsup re Verizon Wireless paging
by Michael R. Wayne 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

Summary: If you use Verizon Wireless pagers (pagers with an @myairmail.com email address) to monitor your network, your alerts may be blocked without notice. The saga: We use multiple paging companies for our pagers, under the theory that redundancy is a "good thing". Last week, our people who carry pagers from Verizon Wireless realized that they were not getting pages from our Netsaint monitoring system, although they were getting other pages and people carrying pagers from other paging companies were getting Netsaint pages. After a bit of testing, we discovered that email to pagers from netsaint@<our monitoring system> was not getting through but email to pagers from any other username on that machine seemed to go through fine. So one of my people contacted their tech support Friday morning. After 7.5 hours of being told: 1) The problem is that you are not running a web server on that machine. (Actually we are but it's firewalled and why should they care?) 2) The problem is that DNS is broken for that address. (It's not, plus why do pages for other users go through?) 3) The problem is that our server is not actually sending the messages to Verizon wireless (we sent them the sendmail logs to prove that the messages were accepted). 4) The problem must be something else at our end. 5) The problem is that you are using email to deliver the page, can't you use a modem? 6) Assorted other excuses which we neglected to note. someone FINALLY admitted that pages from the netsaint address were being filtered. The guy who eventually admitted this basically told the gal who had been working on this all day: "We did this to protect our network, no, you cannot speak to anyone else about it, we may just leave it in forever and we're not going to do anything about it." And hung up on her. He must have been pretty rude (which I why I omit his name) because after dealing with this all day she was frustrated to the point that she was in tears. So, I sent her home and picked up the fight. I eventually, reached the same person who admitted that they were filtering email from that address because of a problem with one customer earlier in the month so they discarded messages to ALL customers if the address contained netsaint. His stand: - Verizon Wireless did this to protect their network. - They occasionally install such filters for an indeterminate amount of time. - No notice is given to customers of such a filter. When I asked about it he seemed to feel that there was no way to inform customers. I figure it would take about an hour to develop a script with a simple database of pager destinations that paged once to inform customers that a word was suppressed. - No notice is given to their tech support people that such a filter has been put in place. - No notice is given to their resellers, so if a customer calls to inquire, the reseller has no clue that it's going on. - There is no clear process for a customer to determine that such a filter has been installed. - He had to obtain permission from "the field" as to whether or not the block could be removed. - He pretty much ignored my question as to why they blocked all customers rather than just the one in question. But he promised to contact me before leaving for the day. I started hacking a filter to simply substitute another address for netsaint and, in the process, discovered that what was actually going on was that any page that contains the word netsaint anywhere in the header or in the message was being discared without notice. I did get a call back as promised. I mentioned that they were not filtering on address but the entire messaged and got an: "Oh, I knew that" (would have been nice of him to TELL me). He claimed that the block would be removed either later Friday night, Saturday morning at the latest. Pages were still being blocked Friday night and Saturday morning but a test page sent this morning worked OK. /\/\ \/\/

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smart hands requested in san jose
by joshua sahala 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

hello all, i was wondering if anyone was interested in some possible ongoing 'smart hands'-type work in the san jose area. ideally looking for someone with some unix (debian), juniper, and/or cabling skills. if you are interested please drop me a note. thanks /joshua /* i hope everyone in the quake area is ok */

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RE: california quake
by Claydon, Tom 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

If a fault line slips, then the terrorists have already won. -----Original Message----- From: Gerald [mailto:gcoon@inch.com] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 1:34 PM Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: california quake On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Scott Granados wrote: > Apparently there was just a 6.4 quake in central california. Terrorists! Gerald

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Re: california quake
by Aviva Garrett 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

Yep, we felt it too, in Sunnyvale. It was 6.5, near San Simeon. http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc40148755.htm In message <Pine.LNX.4.33.0312221126010.19231-100000(a)www.graphidelix.com>you wr ite: > > Apparently there was just a 6.4 quake in central california. > > We felt it here in San Jose but its probably to minor up here to cause any > disruptions. However closer to the center there may be. > >

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RE: california quake
by Claydon, Tom 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

According to current data, it was a 6.5, and the epicenter was 7 miles NE of San Simeon, CA. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Granados [mailto:scott@wworks.net] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 1:27 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: california quake Apparently there was just a 6.4 quake in central california. We felt it here in San Jose but its probably to minor up here to cause any disruptions. However closer to the center there may be.

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Broadwing Network Status Page?
by daryl＠introspect.net 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

One of my customers is experiencing what I'm being told is backhoe fade in the Philadelphia area. It's a Broadwing circuit resold by another party, so they won't talk to me directly. Does anyone know if they have a network status page? I've not found anything googling around. Thanks, Daryl G. Jurbala BMPC Network Operations Tel: +1 215 825 8401 x235 Fax: +1 508 526 8500 INOC-DBA: 26412*DGJ PGP Key: http://www.introspect.net/pgp

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IANA down?
by David Lesher 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

http://www.iana.org It appears so from here...and other places.. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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Re: IANA down?
by sthaug＠nethelp.no 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

> http://www.iana.org > > It appears so from here...and other places.. Works fine from here (Oslo, Norway). Port 80 okay, traceroute: % traceroute www.iana.org traceroute to www.iana.org (192.0.34.162), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 1 nethelp-gw.banetele.net (194.19.15.1) 0.983 ms 0.842 ms 0.857 ms 2 oslo-a2.banetele.net (194.19.80.13) 5.605 ms 6.206 ms 6.218 ms 3 sand.osl.banetele.net (194.19.81.45) 6.356 ms 6.268 ms 6.338 ms 4 if-1-2.core2.Oslo.teleglobe.net (80.231.89.21) 7.053 ms 6.886 ms 7.105 ms 5 if-5-0.core1.Oslo.teleglobe.net (80.231.88.5) 122.524 ms 122.069 ms 121.780 ms 6 if-4-11.core2.London2.teleglobe.net (80.231.88.14) 121.629 ms 122.822 ms 121.621 ms 7 if-9-0.core2.Newark.Teleglobe.net (66.110.8.141) 122.299 ms 121.851 ms 122.107 ms 8 if-9-0.core1.Ashburn.Teleglobe.net (64.86.83.214) 121.376 ms 121.354 ms 121.495 ms 9 POS2-3.BR3.DCA6.ALTER.NET (204.255.174.197) 123.016 ms 123.201 ms 123.124 ms 10 0.so-3-1-0.XL1.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.118) 117.694 ms 117.226 ms 116.658 ms 11 0.so-0-0-0.TL1.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.69) 116.998 ms 117.068 ms 117.371 ms 12 0.so-0-1-0.TL1.LAX9.ALTER.NET (152.63.9.230) 181.698 ms 181.953 ms 181.906 ms 13 0.so-0-0-0.XL1.LAX9.ALTER.NET (152.63.115.137) 181.929 ms 182.103 ms 181.869 ms 14 POS6-0.GW6.LAX9.ALTER.NET (152.63.116.97) 182.035 ms 181.910 ms 182.047 ms 15 icann-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.247.6) 185.549 ms 186.025 ms 185.753 ms 16 * * * Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug(a)nethelp.no

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Router Server problem
by pramod babu G 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

hai all, I am simulating an IXP and this has 4 router servers which are connected to the ISP routers. I connected the 4 router server by means of Internal Bgp. This is as shown below IBGP ISP1------ RS1------- RS2 ------ ISP3 | | ISP2------ --------ISP4 Now the routes injected by ISP1 into R1 are received by ISP2. And there is exchange of routes between ISP3 and 4. But the routes send by ISP3 are not seen by ISP1 and ISP2. But RS1 has got those routes in its data base. These routes are not selected as best routes in the RS1 bgpd So to overcome this do u have any suggestions ??

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