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RE: CIsco 7206VXR w/NPE-G1 Question
by Matt Ryan 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

Do you get commission from Juniper? Matt. -----Original Message----- From: alex(a)pilosoft.com [mailto:alex@pilosoft.com] Sent: 30 January 2004 16:51 Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: CIsco 7206VXR w/NPE-G1 Question Keep in mind, 72xx is still flow-based, so you need to count *both* shared fabric capacity (aka PCI buses) and capacity of NPE to establish flows (aka pps rate). NPE-G1 might probably route 3*GE, without any services and if all 3GE are in a single flow, but will melt down at a face of one-packet-per-flow DDoS (read: "Nachi" worm) at a far lower rate (I'd be surprised if it sustains 200kpps DDoS traffic, which can be as low as 150Mbit bandwidth). That is of course, as opposed to Juniper, which is truly line-rate at any interface, with any services, at any composition of traffic. -alex On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 Jack.W.Parks(a)alltel.com wrote: > > Does anyone have definitive speed results on the 3 "built-in" Gig ports > on the NPE-G1? I know that they aren't attached to the PCI Buses, and > don't consume bandwidth points, but all of that is mute. Can all three > of the ports do line rate Gig? The Gig PA is limited to 400Mbps. I > have seen posts that allude to the fact the max throughput on the 3 Gigs > are 800Mbps. It's is like a big mystery that cannot be solved. With a > "J" M7i, I know I'm going to get line rate per port up to the total > forwarding capacity of the FPC. > > We are trying to create a comparison matrix and any info you have would > be great. > > Jack > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of > Simon Hamilton-Wilkes > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:36 AM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: RE: CIsco 7206VXR w/NPE-G1 Question > > > > One more interesting feature - if you need a 4th GigE port, you can add > the GigE I/O card which still uses none of the bus bandwidth points. > The buses are fine for OC3 and below... > > > Simon > > **************************************************************************** ************** > The information contained in this message, including attachments, may contain > privileged or confidential information that is intended to be delivered only to the > person identified above. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person > responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, ALLTEL requests > that you immediately notify the sender and asks that you do not read the message or its > attachments, and that you delete them without copying or sending them to anyone else. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Life in Broadband www.telewest.co.uk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. ==============================================================================

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RE: CIsco 7206VXR w/NPE-G1 Question
by sthaug＠nethelp.no 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

> Keep in mind, 72xx is still flow-based, so you need to count *both* shared > fabric capacity (aka PCI buses) and capacity of NPE to establish flows > (aka pps rate). Why do you say it is flow-based? You *do* use CEF, don't you? In which case 7200 with NPE-G1 is a prefix-based architecture, with software forwarding. > NPE-G1 might probably route 3*GE, without any services and if all 3GE are > in a single flow, but will melt down at a face of one-packet-per-flow DDoS > (read: "Nachi" worm) at a far lower rate (I'd be surprised if it sustains > 200kpps DDoS traffic, which can be as low as 150Mbit bandwidth). It's the pps that counts, not whether it is one packet per flow or many. We actually tested NPE-G1 a bit today with small (64 byte) packets, and we reached considerably higher pps numbers. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug(a)nethelp.no

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updated root hints file
by Coppola, Brian 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

In preparation for tomorrow morning's B-root IP change from 128.9.0.107 to 192.228.79.201 we have posted updated root hints files. They are available from the following URLs: ftp://rs.internic.net/domain/db.cache ftp://rs.internic.net/domain/named.cache ftp://rs.ineternic.net/domain/named.root and will be available from: ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/db.cache ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/named.cache ftp://ftp.ineternic.net/domain/named.root Brian Brian Coppola Manager, Resolution Systems Verisign Operations and Infrastructure (O&I)

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RE: CIsco 7206VXR w/NPE-G1 Question
by Simon Hamilton-Wilkes 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

One more interesting feature - if you need a 4th GigE port, you can add the GigE I/O card which still uses none of the bus bandwidth points. The buses are fine for OC3 and below... Simon

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RE: Misplaced flamewar... WAS: RE: in case nobody else noticed it, there was a mail worm released today
by Michel Py 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

> kenw(a)kmsi.net wrote: > But, regardless, Win2K and WinXP do have restricted-user > modes that tie this stuff down quite well. They tend to > be used in corporate environments. Indeed, and the one reason being that the last thing the IT staff wants is users installing apps, because even if the user is not installing a worm or Trojan, installing software inevitably generates incompatibilities and demand for more support. > But for home users, it gets to be a pain in the butt, > because it prevents a lot of things users want to do, > like installing games, multimedia apps and spyware. Yep. In XP home, it's easy to have several users on the same machine but by default they all have administrative rights. > doug(a)nanog.con.com wrote: > Microsoft software is inherently less safe than > Linux/*BSD software. > This is because Microsoft has favored usability > over security. > This is because the market has responded better > to that tradeoff. > This is because your mom doesn't want to have to > hire a technical consultant to manage her IT > infrastructure when all she wants to do is get > email pictures of her grandkids. Exactly. Michel.

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Re: An analysis.
by Michael.Dillon＠radianz.com 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

>Which one of you guys took down the world? >We have separate carriers for internet, ATM, and Phone Whenever you get simultaneous outages for multiple telecom services at the same time it's almost always due to a local issue like a major cable cut or a central office fire. Sounds like a SONET ring that was either unprotected or both legs cut. After 10 minutes someone manually rerouted the circuits. --Michael Dillon P.S. Larry, what do you think? Leading by example?

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

This report has been generated at Fri Jan 30 21:48:00 2004 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 23-01-04 129825 91041 24-01-04 129829 90960 25-01-04 129792 90949 26-01-04 129829 91029 27-01-04 129940 90955 28-01-04 129894 90911 29-01-04 129760 90995 30-01-04 129929 90988 AS Summary 16474 Number of ASes in routing system 6633 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 1377 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS7018 : ATT-INTERNET4 AT&T WorldNet Services 73498880 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS568 : SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 30Jan04 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 130057 90986 39071 30.0% All ASes AS4323 681 201 480 70.5% TW-COMM Time Warner Communications, Inc. AS7018 1377 960 417 30.3% ATT-INTERNET4 AT&T WorldNet Services AS6197 676 263 413 61.1% BATI-ATL BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS701 1348 951 397 29.5% ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS7843 513 116 397 77.4% ADELPHIA-AS Adelphia Corp. AS27364 382 33 349 91.4% ACS-INTERNET Armstrong Cable Services AS6198 590 244 346 58.6% BATI-MIA BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS4134 660 335 325 49.2% CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street AS22909 337 18 319 94.7% DNEO-OSP1 Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. AS22773 337 35 302 89.6% CCINET-2 Cox Communications Inc. Atlanta AS9583 311 19 292 93.9% SATYAMNET-AS Satyam Infoway Ltd., AS4355 385 99 286 74.3% ERMS-EARTHLNK EARTHLINK, INC AS1239 952 668 284 29.8% SPRINTLINK Sprint AS1221 902 644 258 28.6% ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd AS17676 293 42 251 85.7% GIGAINFRA Softbank BB Corp. AS6347 328 82 246 75.0% DIAMOND SAVVIS Communications Corporation AS6140 358 125 233 65.1% IMPSAT-USA ImpSat AS25844 243 16 227 93.4% SKADDEN1 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP AS6478 267 45 222 83.1% ATT-INTERNET3 AT&T WorldNet Services AS209 719 509 210 29.2% ASN-QWEST Qwest AS14654 213 3 210 98.6% WAYPORT Wayport AS11305 243 42 201 82.7% INTERLAND-NET1 Interland Incorporated AS2386 418 229 189 45.2% INS-AS AT&T Data Communications Services AS20115 605 419 186 30.7% CHARTER-NET-HKY-NC Charter Communications AS4519 201 18 183 91.0% MAAS Maas Communications AS6327 205 28 177 86.3% SHAW Shaw Communications Inc. AS9929 199 30 169 84.9% CNCNET-CN China Netcom Corp. AS15270 208 39 169 81.2% AS-PAETEC-NET PaeTec.net -a division of PaeTecCommunications, Inc. AS2048 248 84 164 66.1% LANET-1 State of Louisiana AS4766 409 248 161 39.4% KIX Korea Internet Exchange for "96 World Internet Exposition Total 14608 6545 8063 55.2% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 24.138.80.0/20 AS11260 ANDARA-HSI Andara High Speed Internet c/o Halifax Cable Ltd. 64.62.126.0/23 AS25700 SWIFTDESK SWIFTDESK VENTURE 66.114.0.0/19 AS16526 BIRCH-TELECOM Birch Telecom, Inc. 66.114.28.0/24 AS15083 INFOLINK-MIA-US Infolink Communication Services, Inc. 66.114.29.0/24 AS15083 INFOLINK-MIA-US Infolink Communication Services, Inc. 66.114.30.0/24 AS15083 INFOLINK-MIA-US Infolink Communication Services, Inc. 66.114.31.0/24 AS15083 INFOLINK-MIA-US Infolink Communication Services, Inc. 69.8.128.0/17 AS7260 NORLIGHT Norlight Telecommunications 132.0.0.0/10 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 137.0.0.0/13 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 138.136.0.0/13 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 158.0.0.0/13 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.43.230.0/24 AS4738 SAARDNET-AS South Australian Academic Research and Development Network 192.44.0.0/19 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA 192.64.84.0/24 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.16.0/20 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.32.0/19 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.64.0/19 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.96.0/22 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.100.0/24 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.119.135.0/24 AS270 PSCNI-AS National Aeronautics and Space Administration 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 AS680 DFN-IP service G-WiN 192.135.50.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 AT&T WorldNet Services 192.136.71.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.136.79.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.153.144.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.172.0.0/19 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.188.208.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.243.32.0/23 AS2044 PALIN-AS Palin Aquisitions Inc. 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLATLANTIC-COM Bell Atlantic, Inc. 198.97.72.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.97.80.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.97.88.0/24 AS89 NUSC-CSTLNET-AS Naval Underwater Systems Center 198.97.192.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.97.240.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.101.4.0/22 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.136.32.0/20 AS19329 MCNET Martin County Board of County Commissioners 198.144.32.0/19 AS3998 CITY-NET CityNet, Inc. 198.161.87.0/24 AS6539 GROUPTLCOM GT Group Telecom Services Corp. 198.161.165.0/24 AS852 ASN852 Telus Advanced Communications 198.163.155.0/24 AS684 MBNET-AS Manitoba Regional Network 198.167.0.0/16 AS7456 INTERHOP Interhop Network SERVICES Inc. 198.167.163.0/24 AS15290 ALLST-15290 Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.169.0.0/16 AS803 SASKTEL SaskTel 198.232.133.0/24 AS23075 SKOTOS-AS Skotos Tech, Inc 199.10.0.0/16 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.60.0.0/20 AS271 BCNET-AS University of British Columbia 199.84.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 199.114.0.0/18 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.114.0.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.114.128.0/18 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.114.130.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.132.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.136.0/24 AS1913 DLA4 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.138.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.140.0/24 AS3544 ITSDN-U7 DISA/UNRRA 199.114.142.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.144.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.148.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.150.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.152.0/24 AS1913 DLA4 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.154.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA AF DDN PMO 199.114.156.0/24 AS1913 DLA4 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.160.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA AF DDN PMO 199.120.32.0/19 AS16582 NEXTLEVELINTERNET NEXTLEVEL INTERNET, INC. 199.121.0.0/16 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.123.0.0/18 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.123.16.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.123.80.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.189.32.0/19 AS7332 IQUEST-AS IQuest Internet 199.202.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 202.47.1.0/24 AS7491 PI-PH-AS-AP PI-PHILIPINES 202.70.0.0/20 AS4658 NETFRONT-AS NETFRONT I.T. LIMITED (HONG KONG) 202.70.16.0/22 AS17888 SINGTEL-HK SingTel Hong Kong Limited 202.70.240.0/20 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 202.72.112.0/22 AS22351 INTELSAT-1 INTELSAT 202.73.128.0/22 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 202.86.128.0/24 AS4755 VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 202.86.142.0/24 AS30362 HPT-ASN Hawaii-Pacific Teleport 202.86.171.0/24 AS4755 VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 202.86.172.0/23 AS4755 VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 202.86.190.0/24 AS4750 loxley-th Loxley Information Co., Ltd. 202.93.0.0/20 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 202.122.76.0/24 AS17553 TIMELESS-AP System Integration provider 202.133.3.0/24 AS9335 CIP-JAPAN-AS-AP ATT IPlus 202.183.32.0/19 AS23988 PLDTGLOBAL-AS-AP PLDT GLOBAL Corp. Internet-based Services AP 203.32.4.0/23 AS7617 AS7617 203.62.0.0/17 AS7572 AARNET-ACT-RNO Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 203.86.2.0/23 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 203.132.97.0/24 AS7652 VIANET-AS-AP Vianet Communications Pty Ltd 203.132.107.0/24 AS10236 FOXGOLD-NET-AU-AP FOXGOLD COMMUNICATIONS 203.132.108.0/24 AS10236 FOXGOLD-NET-AU-AP FOXGOLD COMMUNICATIONS 203.132.111.0/24 AS10236 FOXGOLD-NET-AU-AP FOXGOLD COMMUNICATIONS 203.132.118.0/24 AS18065 CENTRALDATA-WA Central Data Pty Ltd. 203.132.122.0/24 AS4802 WANTREE-AS-AP Wantree Development 203.132.123.0/24 AS18065 CENTRALDATA-WA Central Data Pty Ltd. 203.132.124.0/24 AS18065 CENTRALDATA-WA Central Data Pty Ltd. 203.132.125.0/24 AS4817 TECHEX1-AS-AP Techex Primary Netblock 203.135.99.0/24 AS2687 IBM-MMD-AS IBM 204.69.144.0/22 AS5668 AS-5668 CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc. 204.154.125.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.126.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.127.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.194.110.0/23 AS30653 EXOBIT Exobit Networks Inc. 205.150.0.0/15 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 206.41.32.0/19 AS14824 NEWSOUTH NewSouth Communications Corp. 206.81.187.0/24 AS19194 JOVITA Sentris Network LLC 206.108.34.0/24 AS852 ASN852 Telus Advanced Communications 206.108.35.0/24 AS852 ASN852 Telus Advanced Communications 206.167.57.0/24 AS376 RISQ-AS Reseau Interordinateurs Scientique Quebecois (RISQ) 206.191.64.0/18 AS15290 ALLST-15290 Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 206.251.69.0/24 AS27429 TIL Telesat International Ltd. 207.162.192.0/19 AS4589 EASYNET Easynet Group Plc 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETPA NuNet Inc 208.81.187.0/24 AS19194 JOVITA Sentris Network LLC 209.87.192.0/20 AS15290 ALLST-15290 Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 209.169.219.0/24 AS189 GENUITY-AS189 Genuity 209.169.223.0/24 AS189 GENUITY-AS189 Genuity 209.172.0.0/18 AS7770 TRITON Triton Technologies, Inc. 209.213.32.0/19 AS10629 INTERPAC Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.50.0/24 AS10629 INTERPAC Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.51.0/24 AS10629 INTERPAC Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.55.0/24 AS10629 INTERPAC Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.56.0/24 AS10629 INTERPAC Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.222.137.0/24 AS27429 TIL Telesat International Ltd. 209.240.96.0/19 AS10815 KCNET KCnet, Inc. 209.251.0.0/19 AS11036 SISCOM SISCOM, Inc 209.251.64.0/19 AS10266 NETWAY-AS MDC, Inc. 210.213.0.0/19 AS6453 GIEUROPE Teleglobe America Inc. 216.18.224.0/21 AS11458 IMBRIS IMBRIS, INC. 216.18.224.0/22 AS11458 IMBRIS IMBRIS, INC. 216.18.228.0/22 AS11458 IMBRIS IMBRIS, INC. 216.36.46.0/24 AS7176 GENUITY-AS7176 Genuity 216.36.47.0/24 AS7176 GENUITY-AS7176 Genuity 216.96.128.0/18 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 AT&T WorldNet Services Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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Re: Kinda' funny...
by Michael Painter 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Thomas" <athomas(a)deltacable.com> To: "'Michael Painter'" <tvhawaii(a)shaka.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:13 PM Subject: RE: Kinda' funny... > Sorry, > > I don't see the funny in 1200 people losing their homes. > > Is there something else to the story that I am missing? > > Aaron Your correct...poor choice for the Subject line and I apologize for that. I didn't mean it to refer to poor Niue at all, just the Register's take on the cc domains. --Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of > Michael Painter > Sent: January 30, 2004 1:03 AM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Kinda' funny... > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34919.html > > >

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B.root-servers renumbering
by John L Crain 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Colleagues, This is to inform you about an IPv4 address change in b.root-servers.net. The old address is: 128.9.0.107 The new address is: 192.228.79.201 New Hints files can be found at: ftp://rs.internic.net/domain/db.cache ftp://rs.internic.net/domain/named.cache ftp://rs.ineternic.net/domain/named.root ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/db.cache ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/named.cache ftp://ftp.ineternic.net/domain/named.root The old address will continue to answer queries. John L Crain Manager of Technical Operations -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQBoiQtGxp5XUiliSEQIZQACg+cwOGbuSuE4FokrP7Sgl09cK8HkAnimQ JpFPJiPLJgS/5+q6PqoNE2Q3 =LJ/r -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: Kinda' funny...
by Aaron Thomas 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

Sorry, I don't see the funny in 1200 people losing their homes. Is there something else to the story that I am missing? Aaron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Painter Sent: January 30, 2004 1:03 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Kinda' funny... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34919.html

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