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Katrina impact on US internet backbone -- analysis
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 05 Sep '05

05 Sep '05

I'd be interested in what the curmudgeons on the list think about this: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/04/katrina_impact_on_us.html - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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Re: Katrina impact on Internet2 backbone -- analysis
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 05 Sep '05

05 Sep '05

Okay, they changed it on me. Flame away. http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/04/katrina_impact_on_ab.html - ferg -- "Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <fergdawg(a)netzero.net> wrote: I'd be interested in what the curmudgeons on the list think about this: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/04/katrina_impact_on_us.html - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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Re: Tidbit from DirectNIC
by Michael Greb 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:54:10AM -0400, Steven Champeon wrote: > on Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:44:49PM +0100, Michael.Dillon(a)btradianz.com wrote: > > -----snip----- > > Fox News is reporting that there is an operation underway to refill > > chillers at the Bell South building down the street to keep phone service > > available to much of the southeast United States. That is apparently where > > all the firetrucks are going to in the area, in case you were wondering. > > -----snip----- > > > > It is interesting to note that it is possible to bring in diesel and water > > to resupply BellSouth yet it is impossible to bring in water and food for > > the residents, not to mention a fleet of small boats that could have > > prevented thousands from dying trapped inside their attics. > > 1) potable water is probably somewhat different from the water used in > chillers or fire trucks > > 2) phone service is, IMHO, one helpful pre-requisite to providing > emergency care and disaster relief Last year after Ivan phone service played no roll in emergency care or disaster relief. Ham Radio operators, myself included, were stationed at each shelter, the Red Cross and Salvation Army command centers, the county EOC, hospitals, and some assigned to shadow important people such as the mayor whereever they went. Every agency participating had a presence at the county EOC. When an ambulance was needed at a shelter, it was called for via ham radio, an operator at the EOC passed the message to the ambulance dispatcher in the same room, they called the ambulance out. Those in their home and not in a shelter had no way to call for help but the city and county themselves did not rely on phone service for anything. This is why the federal government gives so much valuable radio spectrum to Ham Radio, more then any other service, the principal purpose of Ham Radio is to provide emergency communications in times of need. > 3) the pictures I've been seeing have been full of boats, many of them > thrown up on land a few hundred feet from their berths > > Not saying that the utter failure of DHS as an organization isn't on > evidence here. Just saying that it's one thing to feed and water a plant > and quite another to feed and water a human being, let alone tens of > thousands of them. Michael Greb

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RE: UNITED.COM (United Airlines) has been down for days! Any info on this?
by Hannigan, Martin 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

> > United.COM works from everywhere I try it. MCI, AT&T, Internap, > > and Sprint. I can run tickets, check miles, and check my dining > > points. > > > > Since I started the thread a month ago... it seemed to me that the > problem(s) are intermittent and not always repeatable :( I > was able to see > some very odd things in the dns resolution area for their > site(s), which > others had confirmed being problematic over the last few > months as well. You started this? Thanks. I love IKYABWAI threads. :-) > I'd think that lastnight's 'problem' was just another > recurrence of the > same set of problems :( Maybe someone at Internap could tell them/ask them what's going on?

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RE: Katrina could inundate New Orleans
by Dave Stewart 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

At 12:02 AM 8/29/2005, you wrote: >Some of this is on topic. Internet access is as important as the >lights or water being on. Right, get out, but it'll be good >to see reasonable updates on what's going on utilities wise >down there when the weather shifts. Y'know... I do have to wonder whether Internet access is nearly as important as power and communications (traditional comms, such as the PTSN). Granted, it'll be interesting to see how things shake out - but I just can't buy that getting the Internet working should/will be a really high priority.

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RE: UNITED.COM (United Airlines) has been down for days! Any info on this?
by Hannigan, Martin 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

> Nice try, but the location that I was trying from did not use > "alternative root servers". > > FYI: They are "Inclusive Namespace Servers". United.COM works from everywhere I try it. MCI, AT&T, Internap, and Sprint. I can run tickets, check miles, and check my dining points. Currently linked via United News: "The aftermath of Hurricane Katrina is still causing cancellations and some flight irregularities. Check the status of your flight before traveling and read on for information about changing travel plans affected by the weather. We are attempting to recover to full operations as quickly as possible." Sounds like a local issue. -M<

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New Orleans Comm Needs
by Jerry Dixon 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

I don't know how many of you have a Ham license but see below: In talking with communication providers in the region they just now got satellite phones and in process of assessing and repairing communication lines for New Orleans. They're still somewhat challenged with comms including at shelters. See the request below from ARRL. There is an HF net setup and efforts under way by NCS down there. -Jerry http://www.arrl.org Attention All Amateurs... Amateur Radio emergency communication volunteers needed! (Sep 2, 2005) -- The ARRL now is seeking experienced Amateur Radio emergency volunteers to help supplement communication for American Red Cross feeding and sheltering operations in Mississippi, Alabama and the Florida Panhandle--as many as 200 locations in all. Special consideration will be given to operators who have successfully completed the ARRL Amateur Radio Emergency Communications course training (Level I minimum) to serve as team leaders. These volunteer operators will help to provide communication and equipment for relief efforts in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. If you're interested and qualified, please send an e-mail message to Katrina(a)arrl.org, providing name, call sign, contact information and any equipment you're willing and able to take along on a field deployment for an indefinite period. Volunteers may face hardship conditions without the usual amenities and will need to provide their own transportation to the marshaling area. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 19:59:40 GMT >From: "Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <fergdawg(a)netzero.net> >Subject: FCC COORDINATING TECH AID FOR KATRINA DISASTER >To: nanog(a)merit.edu > > >http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/02/fcc_coordinating_tec.ht ml > >- ferg > > >-- >"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson > Engineering Architecture for the Internet > fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net > ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ >

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RE: FW: Need some help: IDEAS, Inc.
by Hannigan, Martin 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

> > > this is NOT a good solution, since a successful phish attack > > > in this case > > > would look exactly like the official red cross web site. > > > > How's that one work? > > One form of DirectNIC's redirection, which the phisher was > supposedly using > (I didn't check myself), uses a <FRAMESET> to hide the > redirect inside a > frame, thereby not showing the real address in the browser > without deeper > inspection. Understood. If it's being pointed at redcross.org, a known good guy site, that wouldn't be a problem, would it? It seems that if the scammer is removed from the operation, it's not really a problem anymore. I'm interested because I think there could be value in a page(s) on an SP that says "This site terminated due to fraudulent activity" and pointers to how to not be sucked into these things. > Personally, I'd prefer registrar lock myself, as that keeps > the distinction > between scam and non-scam clear. Registrar lock is preferred on my part. The redirect idea was creative. -M<

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RE: FW: Need some help: IDEAS, Inc.
by Hannigan, Martin 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

> this is NOT a good solution, since a successful phish attack > in this case > would look exactly like the official red cross web site. How's that one work? -M<

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UNITED.COM (United Airlines) has been down for days! Any info on this?
by John Palmer 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

The United Airlines website appears to be down and has been down for days. Is this a network issue or are they out of business??

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